GnosticChristianBishop

Your supernatural belief is noted and you are thus correct in all you say of it.

Adore your Mother Fucker of a God. May you one day create your own Father to engage with. 

If you wish to chat on the immorality in the messianic ideas, I am here to guide discus those, otherwise, please ignore me and my sympathy for your fiction believing mind. 

Factual in a myth? How stupid do you want to be?

That is what happens when one is factual instead of sexist.

If I an wrong, show the wrong instead of stupid accusatioins.

I would love to have an actual debate.

I love to lose debates so that I can learn something new.

I will not debate with you if you have not read the Bible and noticed that Yahweh is genocidal.

Why did Moses tell Yahweh to stick his Promised land?

Moses was tired of smashing baby's heads against stones for God.

Imaginary drivel. 

It is immoral of you to abdicate your responsibility for your sins, not that you fucking care, immoral piece of human garbage.

Put your moral brain in gear. 

You lucky little immoral fool. Nothing quite like being loved by a genocidal prick of a God.

Pathetic piece of moral garbage.

It is never good to punish the innocent instead of the guilty. You know this.

Jesus calls upon us to carry our crosses and follow him. But you would rather ride him as your scape goat.

Tell your creator to stop creating evil.

That is Satanic of him or in fact, her, given that the feminine is the root of all evil.

Remember that supernatural thinking is p poor thinking.

It make immoral people adore a genocidal God.

If born of a virgin as you say, then according to the Christian right wing, without male genes, Jesus would have been a female all of her life. 

That is the kind of catch 22 supernatural stupidity creates.

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Why is the Trinity Jesus as genocidal as the Yahweh you ask.

IDK. It is a stupid but true deduction.

What is Armageddon?  

Yahweh works for the good of the few instead of the many. 

That is immoral.

On the root of evil.

If it is not Satan in the myth and women in reality, then name who motivates us to fight for the best women and keep our species going?

Note how Yahweh gave Satan dominion over us. Yahweh gave her more powers of deception than even his own and only a husband would do such a thing.

There is logic and reason in the Bible, but you have to scrap the stupid supernatural garbage.

Jesus asks us in the Bible, have ye forgotten that ye are God's?

The less enlightened will have. They have yet to mature by putting away the things of children.

Only if you accept his overruling the Father's justice and our just reward. 

If Jesus reverses a just reward, he is doing an injustice. Right?

That aside, stupid and unjust person, no court on earth accepts punishing the innocent instead of the guilty, so why do you?

Show your shit morals.

Exsultet Easter hymn.

Why do you sing of Adam's sin as a happy fault and necessary to God's plan?

Why does Yahweh forgive 7 x 70 times if sin is that bad. 

"Sin: The Path to Excellence" Sin has long been associated with moralfailure, but what if we reframe it? I see sin as something essential to humangrowth—a necessary part of striving for excellence. At its core, sin simply means “missing themark.” It’s not about wickedness but about falling short of an ideal.Christianity and even Gnostic traditions acknowledge this idea in differentways. The concept of felix culpa—the “happy fault”—suggests that sin is necessary forGod’s plan. Whether or not one believes in the supernatural, the wisdom of thisidea is clear: missing the mark is a natural part of aiming for somethinggreater. To evolve, both as individuals and as aspecies, we must take risks and inevitably fall short. This process—of settinggoals, failing, and trying again—is what drives progress. Every moment of “sin”is evidence that we’re pushing ourselves beyond our comfort zones and strivingtoward our best possible selves. This is what we do, consciously orunconsciously, at every point in our lives. Even competition, often seen as divisive, istied to this idea. Competition highlights our shortcomings, creating a contrastbetween where we are and where we want to be. It creates leaders, innovators,and excellence by encouraging us to improve. Of course, competition produceslosers, and those losses can feel like failures or even evoke the idea of"evil." But in truth, every loss is an opportunity—a moment to learn,adapt, and grow stronger. This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call tomoral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth. Without sin,without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness. Therewould be no leaders to inspire us, no innovators to challenge us, and noprogress to drive humanity forward. I don’t believe in the supernatural, but Isee wisdom in the way ancient scribes wove this idea into their teachings. Sin,in its truest sense, is not something to avoid but something to engage withthoughtfully. It is the evidence of our striving, our courage to try, and ourcommitment to evolve. So, I invite you: aim high. Take your shot.Miss the mark. Become a sinner in the best way possible. In doing so, you’llnot only create a better version of yourself but also contribute to thecollective excellence of humanity.

Who is Yahweh's feminine side and the source of all evil if not Satan?

United in cause??? B.S.

Yahweh says my just rewards and wages for my sins is death.

Jesus says that if I sin and abdicate my responsibility for my sins, I am saved. 

The messianic concept of punishing the innocent instead of the guilty is is quite immoral and unjust. Right?

If Yahweh has good justice, Jesus reversing it must be evil.

I think Jesus answers the question of the position of God as compared to man, when he says that the Sabbath was created for man and not man for the Sabbath.

We  can easily extrapolate from that, that Jesus would also say that the Gods and the myths we create are created for us and not us for them.

Supernatural thinking is poor thinking if a true view of reality is what is sought.

On your view of multiple Gods. Yahweh was an androgenous God.

Where did his feminine side end up?

The Trinity concept ends with us being subjected to yet another genocide, which is why I reject the Trinity and genocidal Jesus.

Logic and reason say that Yahweh's feminine side ended in Satan, as the feminine is the root of mall evil to an evolving species like ours. 

No yes or no. Fuck off.

Done here.

I have a bot as well but it is rather stupid.

Evolution?

You mean regression, or do you see the messianic concept as moral?

Use the words yes or no please.

Almost too stupid to reply to. 

We reject Jesus on moral reasons.

If you ever want to actually debate, choose any of his policies. 

I E. the messianic concept is fully immoral.

You should know that you are nearing my ignore list. You may as well be a stupid bot.

Work harder at it then.

Sure, and if we go by the standard for faith set by the bible, there are no believers.

The bible is clear that anyone who has even the smallest bit of faith can do, all Jesus did and more. 

Note that there are none with faith or those that claim it are liars.

IOW, we place morals above God.

This is why we reject your genocidal hero and his inquisition using ways.

I guess you do not care about your moral soul.

Ignore me again.

Fuck off.

Are you a bot? Not a good one.

Yet you adore a genocidal prick of a God.

Explain please.

Not the fucking issue.

Thanks for deflecting.

BTW. Love was his main issue as well as teaching us that we are Gods and should hate the genocidal version of God.

I worked it out. I am now in.  Thanks.

Wow. You know what God is thinking.

You are way to good for my poor brain.

Seems that we are done.

A pity you do not or could not form any moral arguments and just like to opine.

 

Oh well.

Can a genocidal prick be seen as a savior?

Can Hitler or Stalin be called saviors?

Ya. That means in our minds and imagination.

The Gnostics are right.

Supernatural belief is a dead end.

First dibs on forgiving belongs too the victim. Right?

Your God is a genocidal prick.

If you ever want to chat about him, instead of lie, let me know.

Another bot like bit of garbage.

Do you even read replies?

You are useless to me so far and are more bot than human.

I can't join for some reason.

When you wish to discuss your immoral messianic concepts, I am here for you.

Hmm. Nothing on what I put. 

Quite a style and waste of time.

Those are not blaming words. They are a question.

The answer would have been, because I do not exist in some supernatural realm or liars paradise. 

Spiritually speaking, a good God would have answered, because your messianic concept is completely immoral.

It is never good to knowingly punish the innocent instead of the guilty. Right?

If wrong, let us see your argument for it.

God must be spirit if God is to exist both inside and outside of us, omnipresent, as Jesus says he does.

Remember pet rocks? A God beneath each one.

Seriously though. A Gnostic Christian can kind of see, or not see, the imagined divide. We can indisputably see the evolving perfection of matter, so imagining the perfection of the all is easy.

Where did you get that quoted bit?

I agree with you, in a sense,  but I do not see where I said that.

Overall, I disagree because you ignored that forgiveness is to the victim first and not to some genocidal and evil God who no one can possibly hurt.

If you ignore my points and let the notions live with deflections, we will not chat much. 

On breaking our relationship from God.

Yahweh condemned us to death for our sins as our just rewards.

If we accept or allow Jesus to be our savior and reverse that just reward, are we doing an injustice? 

????

You mean completing our duty to Yahweh to sin. 

You forget your Exsultet hymn that names Adam's sin a happy fault and necessary to God's plan. 

Are you saying you would refrain from sin and screw up God's plan?

Psalm 51:5 "Surely I wassinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me."

Do your duty, sin, and reap the rewards of death.

Islam, like Christianity, do get rather stupid when going into the supernatural, to the point of having God not creating all souls perfect. Islam even codifies that goof in God by saying women are lower than men by a degree, whatever that means to Islam.

If I was their God, I would be pissed. Rather faithless of the faithful that.

As I said, they should have stayed more like the older Greek/Jewish Chrestianity and kept Jesus just as a good man and not some part of a genocidal God who fathers himself with his own mother.

Sin has long been associated with moral failure, but what if we reframe it?I see sin as something essential to human growth—a necessary part of strivingfor excellence.

At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.” It’s not about wickednessbut about falling short of an ideal. Christianity and even Gnostic traditionsacknowledge this idea in different ways. The concept of felixculpa—the “happy fault”—suggests that sin is necessary for God’splan. Whether or not one believes in the supernatural, the wisdom of this ideais clear: missing the mark is a natural part of aiming for something greater.

To evolve, both as individuals and as a species, we must take risks andinevitably fall short. This process—of setting goals, failing, and tryingagain—is what drives progress. Every moment of “sin” is evidence that we’repushing ourselves beyond our comfort zones and striving toward our bestpossible selves. This is what we do, consciously or unconsciously, at everypoint in our lives. 

Even competition, often seen as divisive, is tied to this idea. Competitionhighlights our shortcomings, creating a contrast between where we are and wherewe want to be. It creates leaders, innovators, and excellence by encouraging usto improve. Of course, competition produces losers, and those losses can feellike failures or even evoke the idea of "evil." But in truth, everyloss is an opportunity—a moment to learn, adapt, and grow stronger.

This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embraceof imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we wouldhave no benchmarks for greatness. There would be no leaders to inspire us, noinnovators to challenge us, and no progress to drive humanity forward.

I don’t believe in the supernatural, but I see wisdom in the way ancientscribes wove this idea into their teachings. Sin, in its truest sense, is notsomething to avoid but something to engage with thoughtfully. It is theevidence of our striving, our courage to try, and our commitment to evolve.

So, I invite you: aim high. Take your shot. Miss the mark. Become a sinnerin the best way possible. In doing so, you’ll not only create a better versionof yourself but also contribute to the collective excellence of humanity.

First dibs on forgiving belongs too the victim. Right?

Jesus was the victim here and not Yahweh. That right and duty to forgive was to Jesus , not the father.

"God wants us to be tame other than in defense of ourselves and others."

Jesus is said to return with Armageddon. 

Same old genocidal Yahweh.

Moses tried what you suggest and was denied the promised land for refusing to smash more heads of babies against rocks.

Nice that Jewry still put's man above God.

I see both Christianity and Islam as poor offshoots to the older, man above God traditions, that are still maintained by Jewry.

Like Jesus dis, I ask you, have ye forgotten that ye are Gods?

Go fuck yourself and your genocidal garbage God.