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That answer clearly shows why you are no Einstein, even high school students understand this.Density and falling down through less dense wings requires zero extra phenomenon, like gravity, at all.
Density requires pressure. That pressure comes from gravity.
Something cannot "fall down" without gravity.
Your knowledge and understanding of the world around you is abysmal.
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Einstein came up with General Relativity, a precise explanation of how gravity works.From the Einsteins to the Mozarts
You, on the other hand, are a Flat Earther who doesn't believe in (or understand) gravity, and when pressed for an explanation, you run away screaming fanatically that you're being bullied.
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@Castin
Allowing the attacks in the first place is allowing abuse, so can you please make up your mind what you're trying to accomplish here? It is not the adults that do that sort of thing, it is the crazy people how initiate the problem, then freak out and run to the mods claiming they're being bullied and harassed when it was them who created the problem in the first place.
Once again, if you're going to allow the attacks, then get rid of the crazy people who abuse the system.
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I do not care what you think I act like
Yes, we all know that only too well.
I'm so respectful to those who treat me with respect
That's not even remotely true, another delusion on your part, one of many.
You know you are a sadistic bully who tears at eccentric users until they crack
Like others here, I attempted to talk reason with you, but you would have none of that and proceeded to freak out whenever your assertions were refuted with facts and evidence, the Flat Earth thread being a prime example. You "crack" under your own volition and for no sane reason at all. You have made this amply evidence throughout this entire forum wherever and whenever you post.
I'm the only user you ever met probably on any website who annihilated you
Probably one of your most severe delusions caused by the Dunning-Kruger effect of which you are a classic text book case.
You are a whiny little b**** who can't take it that people like me feel zero stigma or shame for being the freaks we are.
Yet, you are blocking me, so that would make you the wlb. And it is the "Freaks" you are that cause sane people to run for the hills when they check this place out and read your posts.
I rock my weirdness like a king ...
Surely, there is a forum for the insane somewhere where you can be that king, it's not here though.
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Rap is a perfect example of that statement, which contains some of worst abuse of the English language.not everyone has the capacity to produce high literature
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Enter the king of blocking, who abuses the Block function of those who don't agree with him and then cries he's being bullied, notice I have not blocked you, that I am treating you like an adult even though you don't act like one.
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@Castin
It depends on whether or not we want to be treated like children or adults. This would allow folks like Poly to go back to her original format of doing nothing more than attacking people, but then if we got rid of the crazy people, that would no longer be a problem and the rest of the adults here could carry on. Any sane people that wanted to join up would see everyone is being treated like adults and the nutters get banned, which will help this forum prosper and grow.
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I agree with the other points but this one doesn't quite work. It also can be abused and has been by some already. Besides, ti's literally impossible to harass anyone on a forum, makes no sense.For example, harassment means to continue to attempt to engage with a member after they have blocked you and asked you to stop contacting them.
If someone uses the Block function, they block others from tagging them and using the PM system, right? So, that person cannot be contacted anyways. This should not stop anyone from continuing to respond to their posts. All this does is allow the person using the Block function to block anyone who doesn't agree with them.
Continuing to respond to their posts is not harassing them at all, especially when they can't tag the person or contact them.
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@Fallaneze
Mini arguments for God's existence
This thread is more like gish gallop.
As the logic flows through each gish, it builds on a series of false premises, equivocation or fallacy whereupon it leaps a great distance to erroneous conclusion.
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Are the crazy people here allowed to continue posting their psychotic behavior, their insults and personal attacks because they're crazy and we should just leave them alone with their insanity?
How does the lack of moderation for these nutters attract sane, reasonable and intelligent people to the forums?
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@Mopac
So, we can paranoid delusional and habitual liar to your lengthy troll resume. Seek professional help.That is why I am a mental midget. Why I am stupid. Why I am a troll who shouldn't be fed. I do not speak of myself, I speak of The Truth. I am the enemy of these wicked people, and they would kill me if they could, just as they have in their own hearts killed The Truth.
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@Mopac
One can only hope the mods ban you from this site or at the very least improve the Block function like other forums so that we can block you and never have to see your psychotic posts. Then hopefully, you get the professional help you so desperately need.Really, what do you hope to accomplish?
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@Wylted
I think I am a mix of things unfortunately. OCD, PTSD with bipolar and some sort of anxiety disorder mixed with some sort of schizotypal personality.
You've posted some wacky stuff in the past, but you're nowhere near as nutters as some here.
And, although you pissed me off along with some others when you were doing it, after you had won the Presidency and then dissolved it shortly afterwards won my respect and eternal gratitude. That was epic.
Your servant, sir.
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You're a sick, twisted and disturbed individual dude. Better get some professional help, there.you'd think that eventually the lot of you would develop some sense and abandon your nihilism, but nah. Take the easy route as usual, losers.
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@secularmerlin
I assumed you would be looking for something better than Mopac, but unless he's gone, you won't find many will be staying here to offer it.
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@secularmerlin
As you can see by Mopac's response, he is everything I described. You engage him and anyone coming here to check this place out will run for the hills when they see this, because they also know Mopac is the best they'll ever be able to do here with intellectual discussion.
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@bsh1
Once again, the evidence for that has been taken down, most likely by you. That's not only highly suspicious but it also makes this thread redundant and more of a knee-jerk reaction due to guilt of Ethan exposing something you don't want anyone to see.It should be clear that I categorically deny the allegations that Ethang made.
Clearly, you're hiding something and Ethan is on to you.
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@secularmerlin
You're not sure? Perhaps, I can help. Mopac is a one dimensional evangelist with a one track mind who not only doesn't care what anyone here thinks, but will openly insult them, which he has done on many occasions to you. Yet, he hasn't been banned which means trolls like him are welcome here, while on other forums where there is a keen interest in having intelligent discussions (which I assume you're looking for) he would have been long gone. Yet, here you are engaging him.
This would show the abysmal nature of this forum and how badly it's run in that Mopac is the best you can do for intellectual discussion.
See how very sad that is?
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@Witchypoo
Yet, I don't discuss anything with you and I have disagreements with others who aren't mentally ill.
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@secularmerlin
Is there some reason why you must persist in feeding that troll? He repeats the same thing over and over, hundreds of times to anything he is asked, why you do keep feeding him?What is the difference between what is true and ultimate truth? If they are the same thing then I'm not sure what your argumentbhere is.Is the ultimate truth not what is true?
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I didn't say beat the shit out of his kids. I said he'd tell them to get 'thick skinned' to handle his emotional abuse.
Here is exactly what you said...
They are damaged by you. You're the type of dad to literally drive your kids to the point of suicide I don't doubt it for a second. You'll justify it all if they don't kill themselves successfully in their adulthood saying you 'shaped them' and likely alienate your wife along the way and die a bitter old fuck who couldn't make anyone happy but himself and other sadists like him at the sake of their victims.
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@Grugore
rag heads
Do you pray to your God with that mouth?
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@bsh1
Ethan thread has been taken down hence we have no references of his allegations in which to question you. You'll need to put the thread back up or paste the content here.Given the recent thread by Ethang, I thought it would be only responsible for me to open myself up to user questions. It should be clear that I categorically deny the allegations that Ethang made.
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@Tradesecret
The black swan example is quite apt
I explained how it wasn't in post #65.
I base this however on a theological premise before a biological one. Dead people stay dead because they are sinners.
It's unfortunate you view humans in that way, but its far more foolish to base your worldview on theological premises than reality. This would demonstrate you have thrown away logic, rationale and reason and replaced it with blind faith, That view is antithetical to anything based on facts, evidence or science, something you've often thrown back in my face even when it is me who observes the scientific view because it supports my argument.
sinful people MUST die and stay dead.
You have a very bleak and morbid view of humanity, how sad.
The fact that biology accords with this is well and good. And clearly is what we observe in history and even in the bible. Dead people stay dead
Terribly sorry, but you are quite mistaken, biology in no way supports the belief that humans are sinners and that this is the reason they stay dead. Looks like your argument is sinking fast.
Jesus was not resuscitated, he was resurrected. Death could not hold him down. He saw no decay.
That would be your blind faith without evidence speaking again.
This is the claim of the NT believers. And so far you have said nothing that draws me to conclude this is false.
Don't get me wrong, I know only too well that some NT believers claim it, there is no question of that. And I know only too well nothing anyone ever says would have you believe or think otherwise. You have admitted faith over reason, logic and facts, so it's highly unlikely they are going to have any effect on you.
You continue to say no evidence for Jesus death.
Technically, there's no evidence for Jesus' existence, but what I've been saying is there is no evidence for people coming back from the dead, Jesus or other-who.
You deny the bible's record.
I don't accept the bibles claim of Resurrection.
If Josephus has stated that he had seen Jesus alive, you would not believe it either.
Did he state that?
Gee if Einstein saw Jesus alive - after he has died, you would deny it.
Einstein never said he saw that, but there are inmates in asylums that have,
Why? Because it is not in accord with your prejudice. That is why.
I accept your concession. Thank you.
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@Tradesecret
The science I am talking about is not about physically getting Jesus into a laboratory and getting his dna into test-tube. Not only is that crazy talk but it is quite at odds with what I am discussing.
Then, it probably isn't science you're talking about.
I find the theory of the big bang completely laughable. It does not sound plausible or even possible and really sounds more like atheist scientists grasping at straws
And all this time you berate me for not being scientific, yet here you are spewing anti-science rhetoric. Hypocrisy at its best.
their denial of a divine creator.
That's exactly the crux of your argument, you're upset because we don't believe in Jesus as our lord and savior. Nothing else matters.
I am more inclined towards truth than simply accepting things
That is the exact opposite of what you do. You accept people can come back from the dead. This is not in any way seeking truth but simply accepting something written centuries ago, most likely myth.
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@Tradesecret
Sure, that would be their religious opinion, but wouldn't their professional opinion if they had any integrity.
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@keithprosser
The problem is conflating things that violate the laws of nature with those that don't.
It's often been pointed out that men never dreamed of flying, yet now we have commercial airliners.
Flying doesn't violate any laws of nature, coming back from the dead does. Huge difference. Hence you can't compare the black swan story with people coming back from the dead.
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@Outplayz
Of course your friends want to take your money playing poker, haven't you figured that out yet?
Then, it will playing pool, then foosball, then ping pong, then something else. (-:
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@Outplayz
He had zero knowledge and it cost him his life, that's the point of having zero knowledge.Sure if he truly had no knowledge of what he was doing.
I had no knowledge of poker the first time i played and i remember winning a big pot. That's what got me into poker. It happens.
That's called a con. The others knew it was your first time so they let you win in order for you to get hooked so they could later take your money.
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@keithprosser
The white swan example is well known because it is unusual.
TS is fallaciously invoking this story. Swans exist and the story is about their coloring, which is something that could easily be in error simply because the possibility and probability of different colored swans can be found.
Not so with people coming back from the dead as this is something entirely different considering what science understands about dead tissue.
TS is invoking a Strawman fallacy.
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@Tradesecret
Again, the black swan story does not apply here and shows you don't understand the story at all. Strawman fallacy.You keep going back to the black swan error.
The fact is some people do claim that at least one person has come back from the dead.
Hopefully someday, you'll understand that claims aren't evidence of anything and that claims are made all the time that have no evidence. In fact, you are doing that right now in this thread, making claims that have no evidence.
To simply close your mind to this claim is prejudice, it is not scientific.
Yet, no scientist would ever take that clam seriously simply because they understand things about nature that you do not. It is YOU who is closing their mind to knowledge and understanding and are instead invoking magic.
You state dead people do not come back from the dead, and yet some people make a different claim.
Wrong, it is not my claim, it is common knowledge that people don't come back from the dead, science will support that with evidence. Those who make the claim in contrast to science are the ones who have to show the evidence and prove people come back from the dead. That would be you.
So, prove it.
Now one possibility is that they are insane or making it up or delusional.
Exactly. Now you're talking sense and are being reasonable and logical. Well done.
Another possibility is that they correct.
Yet, there is no evidence to support them. None. And, not only that, they have to show how dead tissue can come back to life. Of course, they can't.
A scientist may well start - and I would be surprised if they did not, with plenty of skepticism. After all, dead people don't normally come back from the dead.
Since scientists understand biology and the fact dead tissue cannot be reanimated, no scientists would bother with such a ridiculous claim. Can you find any research on bringing people back from the dead? Anything at all?
So if a dead person did come back from the dead, it would certainly be something investigating.
But, there's nothing to investigate because no one has ever come back from the dead and scientists already understand biology and the fact dead tissue can't be reanimated for obvious reasons.
But you, no - you shut your eyes and simply repeat your mantra "all swans are white, all swans are white, all swans are white". Hence the question is not about continuing your prejudice but about examining the evidence and seeing where it leads.
But, there is no evidence to examine and there is no prejudice of people coming back from the dead. It's all about your ignorance of science, facts and evidence.
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@Tradesecret
Classic hypocrisy. There isn't a scientist on the planet who would agree with anything you're saying about people coming back from the dead. They understand the concept of dead tissue, where clearly you do not. They base their understanding on the biology and not just on the fact that 100% of people who died stay dead. Their bodies immediately begin to decay and will never work again.It seems to me that you lack fundamental skills in logic and reasoning and in scientific methodology.
For you to continuously invoke science only tends to destroy your argument, not mine.
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@Outplayz
Like this guy?And i'm sure there are people that took a leap of logic with zero knowledge and turned out not only okay but gaining new knowledge or insight
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"I can't believe nobody put a shiv in your kidney yet, considering your lovely personality." ~ DebateArt.com
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@Mopac
God does not send people to hell. People choose to go to hell
No we choose to go to hell so we don't have to spend an eternity with people like you.
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@Mopac
thinking is alien to orthodoxy
Well said, couldn't agree more.
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@Mopac
Therefore, based on the hundreds and hundreds of times you've repeated that God is the Ultimate Reality while waving a dictionary around leads us to conclude that you are the Church and that you own Scriptures.When it comes to scripture, you have to understand that it belongs to the church. It isn't really yours to interpret.
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@Mharman
I wouldn't call it bullying, although it'd be pretty rude.
Excellent, we are pretty close to both agreeing that what you said to me coupled with what I didn't say to you, but would have been the appropriate response, were both rude but not bullying.
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@Mharman
100 post threads are just mini-self celebrations.
They've been posted on a "public" forum so they are public celebrations. If they were "self" celebrations, you would be celebrating by your"self".
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@Mharman
Telling someone to do something isn't bullying.
Would you have a problem if I told you to shut the fuck up and mind your own business?
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@Mharman
Because what you are currently doing is very annoying and because certain discussions are meant for certain forums.
One of the most annoying things I've seen on these forums are those who create threads announcing how they've managed to write another 100 posts, even though the content of those posts are unintelligent and superfluous. Seems like attention whoring.
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@Mharman
Also, no there is no need to be so rude.
Says the rude bully who is trying to tell me what to do.
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You are doing no such thing and in fact doing the very opposite of what is logical and what is scientific. There is zero scientific evidence of people coming back from the dead and there is 100% evidence of people dying and staying dead.I am being VERY logical here. And I am using scientific methodology
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. Given that people don't come back from the dead as a matter of normal course, when a person DOES come back,
Lol, that is hilarious. You make a critical error here, no one has come back from the dead, hence your point is irrelevant. This is something totally difference from swans with difference colors, because swans actually exist. People coming back from the dead do not exist.
If you can't get this simple fact through your head, then you will never offer any rational or sane explanation and will always believe people can come back from the dead. Perhaps, you've been watching too much tv.
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the explanation of the disciples stealing the body is implausible. the Roman soldiers were guarding the gravesite. They were at pain of death if they let anyone steal the body. romans were trained to kill.
Unfortunately, if you're going to bring in the Romans as part of your argument, you'll be sinking yourself as there is not only no information from Roman records of a Jesus being crucified let alone any records of what happened afterwards. The account is from Matthew because the idea of the stolen body being the plausible explanation was already being investigated, hence Matthew tried to refute it in the NT by making up a story about the Jewish elders.
Nor is the notion that he did not die in the first place. quite implausible. the evidence all points VERY strongly to him being killed on the cross.
That only makes the story of the resurrection less plausible.
So how about you tell us about some so called plausible - and I mean plausible as opposed to what you think is possible? Perhaps the grave had a secret door? Again, seriously.
It's funny how you're actually telling me to be serious about a dead person coming back to life while on the other hand telling me the sane explanation isn't plausible. The body was stolen, this is a simple, sane explanation. People coming back from the dead is not a sane explanation.
Your assumptions are all based upon "there are no black swans".
Sorry, this isn't even remotely the same thing, do you actually know the story of the black swans? Doesn't seem like it. Better go read up on it.
That is so unscientific it is embarrassing for you.
Uh no, actually if you're going to invoke science, then it is entirely embarrassing for YOU to opine that people come back from the dead. That is what is unscientific, dude.
what you seem to miss is that there were no Jewish legends of messiahs rising from the dead
And what you're missing is the fact people don't come back from the dead. It is something you wholeheartedly accept as fact, yet you call me unscientific. The hypocrisy is hilarious.
there were too many people who were confident they saw the risen Jesus
That makes you even more unscientific in that you're now taking the word of others over facts.
it is more plausible that a dead person could come back from the dead
And there we have it, anti-science, irrational, illogical and completely unreasonable for that to possibly occur.
people don't die for a lie
Yes, they do.
I refuse to take God out of the picture
Then, you are refusing to accept any plausible explanations that don't require magic.
This is what you avoid because you do not believe in black swans.
The black swan story does not apply here. Do you need me to explain that to you or can you figure it out yourself, I would hate to embarrass you further if you want me to explain it?
It makes total sense if you take the view that Jesus had ascended to heaven at this point.
That would invoke magic on your part. Have we therefore stopped talking sanity and science and have moved on to wishful thinking?
true according to the bible
But, not true according to science, which you were earlier invoking. So, which is it, science or magic that you want to invoke?
the disciples would not be able to steal his body because the Romans would kill them. You need to address this properly.
That was already addressed, there are no records of any Roman involvement so you can't invoke them as having any involvement.
It is stupid to say "the apostles stole the body" without any regard to the context.
No, it's stupid to say people come back from the dead without any regard to facts.
The body was not stolen.
Now, you're making the negative claim to the more plausible explanation. Prove the body wasn't stolen, you can't.
Oh yes, that is right. no black swans.
You should really read the story of the black swans because you clearly have no idea what the point of the story is.
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@Mharman
Are you the forum police?
Are you a moderator?
Are you an admin?
Do you own this site?
Have you any authority whatsoever to tell anyone here what to do?
Of course, you don't.
So, why are you telling me what to do and why should I care?
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I get that and its a fair point that we should be treating mental illness with more compassion and understanding, but there's also a time and place for that too. And you're probably right, they won't seek help, often saying its the rest of us who are crazy.Do I really want to suggest that this person is mentally ill despite the fact that I am likely to be wrong, and ignoring the erroneous social stigma affecting mentally ill people?the likelihood that they would follow your advice is minimal at best
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@keithprosser
President Trump.
Two words that support hard evidence as to who represents a sample of humankind.
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@Grugore
It's slavery. Pure and simple. Keep your religion. But give us your money and behave yourself, or we kill you.
Sounds a lot like Christianity not that long ago.
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