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@Plisken
God is obviously supernatural
Exactly, the supernatural and the non-existent are indistinguishable from one another, obviously.
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@EtrnlVw
It's okay, simple things take longer for simple souls.
As do simple ideas for simple minds.
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@bsh1
I wasn't telling you how to do your job, I was merely explaining the reason for Banned lists.
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I used to think that people who had said in their hearts, "There is no God", the bible called " fools" because of what they said in their hearts. No. It isn't what they said that made them fools. It was being fools that made them say it.In their vain imaginations, they became fools. Imaginations are the opposite of reality. You leave reality, you become a fool. And the end of foolishness is the idiocy that there is no God.That is a better attitude than most have shown here.
I'm humbled by your attitude.
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I think Banned lists are made for those who were banned so that they can read for themselves why they can no longer logon to the site. It's simply a time management tool for mods.
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@EtrnlVw
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
These types of statements are littered among some religious texts, primarily the Abrahamic. They are statements meant to divide people into an "us and them" mentality, often spawned from bitterness and confusion. They appear to originate from those who must constantly be told they're delusional; making sure they distance themselves from anyone who would talk sense. Guffaw at the rational, raspberry the reasonable and spit on common sense.
Using the term "Discerned" as an adjective for "Spiritually" makes no sense based on the definition. You can't discern something that's never been shown to exist. It's like saying we can discern the Leprechauns riding Unicorns in the Kentucky Derby from the other riders and horses by carefully squinting our eyes a certain way. Absurd.
Discern: perceive or recognize (something). distinguish (someone or something) with difficulty by sight or with the other senses
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@EtrnlVw
humble
That appears to be the one word associated with most of those verses, yet I see nothing humble with any of you believers here, quite the contrary.
Not that you've contradicted yourself, have you anything else in regards to attitude?
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@Mopac
According to Merriam-webster..."1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality"
1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: such as
a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universeb Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind
2 : a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality
As we can easily see by the actual definition in Merriam's, the author dishonestly left out the rest of the definition, which shows something different than what he is claiming.
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@ethang5
Without the right attitude, He doesn't show Himself. You lose.
Of course, it has nothing to do with one's behavior, it's all about the "attitude" or else we lose. Hilarious.
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@ethang5
But we still must have the right attitude.
Please explain this alleged "right attitude"? Is it in Scriptures or something you decided to make up?
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@ethang5
In their vain imaginations, they became fools. Imaginations are the opposite of reality. You leave reality, you become a fool. And the end of foolishness is the idiocy that there is no God.
As usual, Ethan has nothing to offer, especially in the area of reality where he believes his God exists but couldn't demonstrate that if his life depended on it.
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@Mopac
Based on your posts, I don't think you know what an argument is.
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@Mopac
According to Merriam-webster..."1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality"
Don't you have anything else to say? You've repeated that over and over and it still means nothing. It's getting really boring.
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@ethang5
We can see that Ethan is forced to turn his attention to telling me what my life is about rather than supporting his claims in the OP, one of them already destroyed with facts. We're still awaiting Ethan to do something other than blow hot air.
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@ethang5
Says the most rude person here.Be careful now. You know bad things happen you you get rude.
If a comment is on wiki and on discovery,
Discovery Institute is a well known den of liars who have an agenda. I understand why you would support them
You've got nothing
Says the guy who has nothing. But please do go on supporting the Discovery Institute that we may understand your motives.
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@ethang5
... living in Ghana is a social booster.
So, a lie then?
you who have never traveled
I have, extensively, probably far more than you. So what. You're claims remain empty.
"over the top" claim?
You make them all the time, empty, vacuous claims that are over the top silly. "There are no amputees - There are no gay animals - The Bible is a book of science" Remember those hilarious claims?
you've never been in an airplane
I can fly an airplane, I used to work at the airport while in high school and traded my pay for flight training. I have a trophy for a flour bombing contest. Any other vacuous claims about me you wish to provide?
Or, can we go back to the OP where you made a bunch of vacuous claims that you have yet to still provide any support? Anything at all?
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Time Stone... for theists.... so they can look back in time to see how their religious beliefs originated and evolved, and hopefully understand how ridiculous those beliefs.
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1. If abiogenesis is true, why are there no instances of it anywhere or anytime in the known universe?2. If abiogenesis is true, why can it not be replicated?3. On what evidence is the idea that a group of organic material can become alive?4. Other than the inductive conclusion from the universe having a start, what makes anyone think abiogenesis is a valid idea?
1. This ludicrous question makes the assumption that we've tested every planet in the universe for life. We have barely scratched the surface of our own solar system, let alone anywhere else in our own galaxy.
2. Another ludicrous question. How does one create an experiment that usually takes millions of years in nature to accomplish?
3. You've dismissed out of hand everything place in front of you, so you'll have to ask a scientist who is working on abiogenesis research.
4. See answer #3.
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@ronjs
So the two most prestigious science journals are now crap.....is that what your saying, does the science community agree with your evaluation?
They are pop-sci magazines written by folks who would sensationalize science. They aren't peer reviewed papers.
Besides, you still haven't produced anything to support your accusation.
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@ethang5
First of all, you claim to live in Ghana, is that also a lie?
No one cares about your alleged travels, you have yet to put a single source for your usual over the top claims.
Plenty of hot air, though.
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@ethang5
You're lying again, the references used by that electrical engineer are from Wiki, it says so right in the article.
Clearly, you were fooled by the article into believing it was written by a microbiologist, which shows very poor reading comprehension skills.
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@ethang5
Women's rights, racism, bigotry, corruption, equality, child welfare, world policing, have all been corrected by us
The OP makes a lot of empty claims and Ethan, as usual, provides no valid or credible sources to back them up.
Even his one point; Racism, is destroyed by this article.
Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States
We don't even need to talk about Trump's views on women or the fact he puts children in cages. That's all been corrected, eh Ethan?
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@ethang5
Despite the fact that a key assumption in evolution theory is false. But let's not address the point.
And unfortunately, it had to be explained to you because you didn't read the paper, didn't understand the paper or just wanted to misrepresent science yet again.
Then you didn't read the parts of the article where he quoted a microbiologist. What a surprise.
That would be the electrical engineer quoting from Wikipedia. Notice how you lied about the author being a microbiologist and have now changed your story.
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@EtrnlVw
The whole Bible is the testimony of humans. However, it's the principles and spiritual laws/concepts within the teachings are what we are examining. Regardless of who put the traditional Bible together it is irrelevant to the concepts and teachings/principles contained within.
If irrelevant as to whether or not humans put together the Bible, then that would make the Bible irrelevant as the word of God and instead the word of humans, like every other book.
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@Mhykiel
Does religious belief offer a solution for children who poop and pee on themselves?Secondly this is off tangent but whether newborns have religious thought or not is impertinent to how an individual or society should approach religious matters. After all children left to their own devices misbehave, are cruel creatures, that poop and pee on themselves.
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@ravensjt
Fail response, I'm not a Creationist.As I stated, your OP shows no connection between non-life and life.
Of course, it does, based on the definition. Is there another answer for the existence of those fossilized organisms?
Abiogenesis - the original evolution of life or living organisms from inorganic or inanimate substances.
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@ethang5
It was written by a micro- biologist.
I saw nothing indicating that blogger was a microbiologist. His references were all Wikipedia, is that where microbiologists get their information on biology? That article actually follows back to this guy...
He's actually an electrical engineer, not a microbiologist.
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@ethang5
Bird study reveals a key assumption in evolution theory is falseOctober 28, 2016 - 06:15A new study of fifty bird species from the Andes now rules out any possibility of predicting evolution on a single genetic mutation.
If you read the article, you would find that everyone involved supports evolution and have merely found a better way to classify and categorize.
It would be like me saying I have a large basket of blue balls and you would come along claiming that was a false statement, that in fact the basket actually contains Navy Blue, Indigo Blue and Sky Blue colored balls.
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@ronjs
Those are just pop-sci publications. So what.The article about scientists manipulating data comes from secular publications, Science or Nature magazines, from about two years ago, I do not recall which one it was but will look for the article.
You haven't provided anything so we can conclude you have nothing to offer.
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@EtrnlVw
The point is usually the same, showing how wrong you are.Newborns have no beliefs...I already stated that fact, however they have intuition. What...EXACTLY is your point other than to argue anything I ever say for the fun of it, even when you have nothing to offer?
If you had actually read the article you put up, you'd understand it's a pop-sci article that leads back to another article. In that article, they talk about "intuitive physics" (Reflex Actions) that babies who are 5 months old appear to show and they go on to claim they BELIEVE it might have something to do with being born with those "Reflex Actions".
So no, babies do not have intuition based on the definition you provided, that is completely false and just shows how little you do to understand the world around you.
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@EtrnlVw
Eckankar
Ye, that cult has destroyed many lives over the years. It would be a good thing not to promote it lest you be seen as someone who wishes to destroy someone else life.
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@IlDiavolo
Goldtop has to thank you for what you've just explained. That was his task, not yours.
My task? Where do you get that notion?
Lets' recap, you offered absolutely nothing but denials and a vague phrase that covers a multitude of failed hypotheses because they couldn't answer certain aspects of evolution. Since you offered nothing, you should receive nothing.
Forcing others to do your homework simply because you deny the science that you clearly don't understand is dishonest.
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@EtrnlVw
Atheists seem to me, to be stuck in a materialists nightmare.
No, we are living in reality, which I'm assuming you refer to as a "materialistic nightmare". But coincidentally, you also live in that "nightmare" just like everyone else, you are forced to deal with reality like the rest of us. It appears though, you would much rather create a fantasy of God Worlds and live there thus divorcing yourself from reality. This of course can easily be observed in many of your posts.
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@EtrnlVw
If you know beginners and intermediates you shouldn't be labeling me as one.
Why would you want me to lie?
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@EtrnlVw
I've been in working bands for a lot of years with ex-pro players, I know beginners and intermediates.
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@EtrnlVw
Sure, I'm always into hearing beginner/intermediate players working on material. I took the song writing course at Berkley, highly recommended.
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@ethang5
Stop derailing this thread with your ignorance and baiting and go away unless you have something intelligent to say.
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@Mopac
What is the scientific process that goes into determining how old something is?
There are a number of methods and it depends on what it is you're trying to date.
How does the scientific process play in observing the evolutionary change of species?
Are you asking how the Scientific Method works?
Here's a quick rundown...
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@Mopac
You've repeated that hundreds of times and it is still as empty as when you said it the first time. Meaningless words.The Supreme and Ultimate Reality is God
So, there's no reason for you to keep repeating it.
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@Outplayz
Science isn't very suited for finding answers in "other" realities, if they exist.
Perhaps, I can help you with your confusion.
Everything in our universe is considered part of our reality, which means it's real, hence the word, "Reality"
So, no such "other realities" can possibly exist in our reality as that would simply make that reality part of our reality, hence there is only one reality and science is definitely very well suited for finding answers.
With thousands of years of theists trying to find answers through their so-called methods, they have failed miserably. For anyone who still follows such a method is merely peeing into wind and watching the urine run down their face.
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@ethang5
The mods telling you to cease and desist does make me happy. It will make everyone else happy to see your personal attacks and name calling disappear entirely. If it doesn't, you will.What ever make you happy Goldy.
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@IlDiavolo
the untenable darwinian theory
Please explain why it is untenable?
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@ethang5
I told you. When you stop.
Nope. It has nothing to do with me and everything to do with the mods telling you to cease and desist. And you know it.
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@EtrnlVw
There are a great many things you need to correct but I know you won't.
Honesty
Integrity
Facts
Evidence
Understanding
These are characteristics and traits that severely need your attention. Please address them before posting.
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@EtrnlVw
You like to use word play, God/gods have surely been "shown" to exist through many, many years of observation and corresponding sources.
That is entirely false. The only reference to God/gods comes from holy books written centuries ago. That's it.
you know darn well that testimonial evidence and theistic knowledge have been more than shown to exist,
And, it has been explained to you dozens of times that testimonials are not evidence for the existence of something and that there is no such thing as "theistic knowledge", there is only knowledge.
however science (the study of the NATURAL world) is incompetent to "show" anything outside the "physical" world to exist and so the claim is inferior and immature
No, what is immature is claiming to know something you don't know, and you certainly don't know if any God/gods exist.
"books of myth and superstition" is your opinion not a fact.
You nor anyone else has ever shown those books to be anything other than myths and superstitions.
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@ethang5
Ah excellent, I see you're taking your warnings seriously and have stopped with the personal attacks.
However, baiting others is also not acceptable behavior.
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@disgusted
Calling someone a troll is a personal attack, beware little thang.
Ethan's behavior is being dealt with as we speak, please make sure to report his personal attacks. He will stop this very soon or face the consequences.
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@Mopac
God loves you. Repent and believe The Good News. The Truth is what sets you free.
Sorry, but no gods or God has ever been shown to exist. There is no Good News or Truth that has been shown to exist other than in books of myth and superstition.
Show me God and I'll reconsider.
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@disgusted
Please make sure you report his personal attacks.
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