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@EtrnlVw
you're trolls.
THAT personal attack has been reported. Your behavior needs to change immediately.
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@ethang5
Wrong. You will be told to change your behavior and you will or face the consequences. It's that simple.
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@EtrnlVw
I am doing no such thing and there isn't anything I've said to lead to that conclusion, hence you're just making that up.If you're attempting to target Theists why is this in the science forum? If you wish to argue this against creation then you will have to show how evolution is not compatible with the PROCESS of creating things. That is precisely what creation means, it's a process.
There is no such thing as the process of creating things in nature as far as living things are concerned, you are just making that up.
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@IlDiavolo
They've all been refuted as having the problem of not being able to explain certain aspects of species that evolution can explain. Sorry.non-darwinian evolution
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@EtrnlVw
You'll have to ask Virtuoso troll. Lol, bye bye.
Calling people trolls is a personal attack. I won't report this one, but in the future you need to calm down.
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@EtrnlVw
The word "intuition" is often misunderstood or misused to mean instinct, truth, belief, meaning but rather realms of greater knowledge and other subjects, whereas others contend that faculties such as instinct, belief and intuition are factually related.
Newborns have none of this as their minds have no knowledge or belief of anything.
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@Mopac
Mopac, I must say I respect you for asking questions on this topic, it is VERY refreshing to see that here rather than the usual faith based denials. Keep at it and you'll do very well! Kudos!
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@ethang5
You're free to report insults if you see them just like we are free to report your name calling and personal attacks. You will be dealt with soon and you will stop.
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@ethang5
. What a loser. Its a refutation of you clemmet doofus
Your personal attacks and name calling have been reported. You will be ceasing and desisting of this behavior very soon or face the consequences.
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@IlDiavolo
There is a Nobel Prize waiting for you if you can show why those theories are stupid and why they offend our intelligence.Nevertheless, I cannot stand how scientists try to sell us that these stupid theories are the answer to our questions, that is a serious offense to our intelligence.
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@Mopac
The process is the same, it's the Scientific Method. The observation is that fossils reveal evolutionary change in species over the last 4 billion years
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@IlDiavolo
There are more theories that are as plausible as the untenable darwinian theory
Name one.
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@bsh1
Personal attacks outside of this context made against assistant moderators will still be actionable for moderation.
What about Ethans constant barrage of personal attacks, will they be dealt with action?
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@ethang5
@bsh1
And goldtop is here too, basically doing what bully did.
I would like to ask the moderator here if he would please tell Ethan to remove that remark and ask him politely to cease and desist immediately with such behavior. Thank you.
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@Mopac
Thing is, we both share the exact same reality, nature will behave exactly the same for you as it will for me.
If you call reality "God" or "Ultimate Reality" or whatever label you wish to give it, we both share it and I understand the same as you. I tend to take it steps further and find out what scientists have discovered and learned about it so I can understand what's going on around me.
So, what am I wrong about, exactly?
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@Mopac
It doesn't make sense to you.
Or, anyone else. Didn't you notice?
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@ethang5
What did you do during that time?
I certainly wasn't pulling my middle leg watching titties bouncing around a magical kingdom on television. That's what sad, pathetic people with no life do.
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@Mopac
That makes absolutely no sense at all.Yet, reality as it truly is happens to be what I call God.
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@Mopac
That is what I call my God.
Why would you have to give something that already has a label another label, one that doesn't even follow the definition I provided? Makes no sense.
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@Mopac
Do you see reality standing in front of you?
Of course. And, there is no God standing in front of me.
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@Mopac
The world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.
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@Mopac
Do you see God standing in front of you?
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@Mopac
How do I join reality?
By dumping your delusions.
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@Mopac
You haven't done anything but reject everything anyone says to you. So what are you putting forward that we should consider?
Have you ever considered reality?
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@ethang5
Urey-Miller was a failure.
Of course, Ethans opening statement is a blatant lie. This is Ethans concept of an honest Christian.
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Here is one listing the flaws in the experiment.Here is a technical paper written by a scientist. (BSc, MSc, PhD, CChem, FRSC)
As we can easily see, Ethan has no concept of science, his first reference is an Iowa newspaper and an article from a political science student. This is his refutation of science. His second reference is a Christian anti-science site. Nuff said there.
This is Ethans understanding of science.
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@ethang5
No. But I did watch the Emmy awards celebrate them.
I'm sure you did. Lol.
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@Castin
What? No. Is it even gonna be another Goldtop? If it's not another Goldtop your username is A LIE. A LIE, Goldtop.
It will be different, so yes, the name will be a big fat lie. What's a poor boy to do?
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@Mopac
I don't see any truth, I see reality, join it sometime.
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@ethang5
Thanks, I will.
Do you cosplay any of the characters, pretending you're one of them?
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@EtrnlVw
Yet you know exactly what God is through your direct experience.
My experiences are with reality, yours are with your delusions.
God can be nothing else but what you portray as consciousness on a mini scale, your first hand experience mimics that which is "God" by nature.
Consciousness is a product of the brain, this is something you keep ignoring, hence your delusions.
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@Mopac
The dictionary is not an argument for the existence of my God.
That's what we keep trying to tell you, but you insist it is.
The Ultimate Reality is what I acknowledge as my God
And you're free to wallow in the belief, good for you.
So when I say God I am very specifically talking about this, not the superstitious baggage you attach to the concept of God
So, you attach your superstitious baggage instead.
But you immediately reject
Your superstitious baggage? Of course.
You accuse me of being a liar, but I can tell you that I believe what I say.
Then, you are delusional.
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@ethang5
You wouldn't know, that's the point.What science am I denying?
Go back to your Television God.
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@ethang5
I myself would love to hear more of whatever you think I'm denying.
You deny Science because your thinking mind has been destroyed by Television (previously thought to be Religion)
Maybe it's both.
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@Mopac
"The dictionary is not an authority when it comes to the defining of terms!"That is your argument.
If you keep lying, no one is going to take you seriously.
The dictionary is a reference book, I've said this time and again.
It is not an authority on anything else, especially the existence of your God.
That is my argument.
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@ethang5
You come to a religion board denying truth.
Really? Hahahaha!
What truth am i denying, E? Your invisible God?
Or, your lies above about verses in the Bible describing Jesus looks. Of course, no such verses exist, E. Have you actually read the Bible? Doesn't seem like it. And here I thought your massive ignorance was due to spending all your time with the Bible, never learning anything else.
But, now I see it's Television that is your God. You spend all your time swooning over pathetic soap operas in made up magical kingdoms. That surely explains a great deal. Lol.
What was is it you said again?
"Expressionless. Stellar TV."
"My God, that was emotionally satisfying TV!"
"Spine tingling TV."
"TV without equal."
Lol. Surely, that is stellar, emotionally satisfying, spine tingling comedy, Ethan. My sides are absolutely splitting.
Let's hear more about this truth I'm denying?
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@ethang5
Cue the troll.
Ah, you're just trolling again, Gotcha. Carry on trolling.
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@Mopac
All atheist arguments are contingent on defining God to be something other than what God is
Anyone who says they know what God is... are a bald faced liar.
Is that your legacy?
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That isn't my argument.
Earth to Mopac.... you don't have an argument. You have semantics. Wake up.
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@Mopac
I don't think it is so hard to admit that The Truth exists.
So, I should just lie to myself about your so-called Truth?
I'm not like you. I don't like lying to myself.
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@ethang5
Show us those verses.There are verses in the bible that describe what Jesus looked like. Most people just don't read.
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@Mopac
Now, you're just lying again.It is something that everyone has performed all the necessary experimentation to know.
If you can't even be honest with yourself, how do expect to be honest with anyone else?
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@Mopac
I know what unicorns and leprechauns mean. So what? They don't exist.Because I know what God means, so I can know that God exists.
Fairies, pixies, ghosts, goblins are all in the Dictionary. According to you, they all exist.
See how your argument has no validity?
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@ethang5
The troll is the one
The troll is the anti-science Creationist who comes to the Science forum with denials and ignorance.
It never mattered what was brought before you on such threads, you just denied it and started name calling, like you always do.
It's why no one takes you seriously, why no one bothers to engage you in such topics, why it is a waste of time trying to teach you anything.
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@ethang5
I'm not the one following you around
Yet, here you are trolling my thread with denials and ignorance
I was done with you on DDO
Yet, here you are trolling my thread with denials and ignorance.
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@linate
in principle we know that there is an 'earliest chicken' and that it came in the form of an egg.
That's probably correct. However, if we were to go back in the egg-laying process, it would some hundreds of millions of years, the species from which birds and reptiles evolved; Amniotes.
Modern day chickens themselves were domesticated thousands of years ago and have undergone "artificial" evolution, just like modern day dogs and cats. So, it's not so easy to pinpoint an answer for the question specifically, so we turn to evolutionary biology.
It would a mutation from two "proto-chickens" eggs that would evolve to form the chickens that were eventually domesticated. So yes, the egg.
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@Mopac
Something doesn't have to be known in order to exist.
Something MUST exist to us before it can be known to exist for us. You can't know of something until you observe it existing in front of you.
While the Moon exists, I've never been there, hence I don't know it. I observe it regularly through my telescopes and can visit museums to see the rocks brought back from there. This is my extent of knowing the Moon.
Have you seen God existing before you? If not, how you do you "know" God exists?
The Ultimate Reality is not known, but it certainly exists
You can't know that. You are therefore telling a lie.
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@Mopac
That's what you say, but you don't really know that.
We may have something in common then, everything you say are things you don't really know.
If a truth dies, does The Truth die? Of course not.
Talking in silly riddles, like a small child?
That is the real mystery of the risen Jesus.
You're just all over the map, no jib.
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