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@FLRW
Everything normal these days is purposefully labeled as far-right by the authoritarian leftists losing their iron-fisted hold on the people.
It is a tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
(My Seniors loved this line)
In the end, Darwin's survival of the fittest has the final word on the inevitable fate of death-cults.
So tragic in the most Shakespearean sense that New York is set to become the next hollowed-out Detroit in America.
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@FLRW
Low-effort trolling won't change the weather. Or science.
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@Sidewalker
Lol, nobody does a poll to decide what's a scientific fact. Science isn't consensus.
You probably have no clue how science actually works.
I don't deny science, I deny that actual science comes from cultish feel-goods and consensus polls.
In fact, science is the polar opposite of mob rule and consensus because it only takes one person to use science to design a repeatable experiment that others can then follow.
But consensus and religion have always been the staunchest foes and deniers of Science throughout history.
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@FLRW
“I've had a lot of worries in my life, most of which never happened.”
-Mark Twain
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@Sidewalker
Well there you go. Consensus is propaganda, not science. Nobody takes a poll to decide what a chart says.
“I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had.
“Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.
“There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period.”
[Crichton gave a number of examples where the scientific consensus was completely wrong for many years.]
“… Finally, I would remind you to notice where the claim of consensus is invoked. Consensus is invoked only in situations where the science is not solid enough. Nobody says the consensus of scientists agrees that E = mc². Nobody says the consensus is that the sun is 93 million miles away. It would never occur to anyone to speak that way.”
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@Double_R
Ah, more rules for thee but not for me...
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@Double_R
I agree, the person who replaces trump will be fun.
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@Best.Korea
Yes lol, things like graphs are observations, not opinions.
Who indoctrinated you differently?
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@Sidewalker
Lol, your link is debunking observations with opinions. The epitome of fake "fact checking"
Another one is a strawman debunking out of context, as if you click the source, it clearly shows a single graph he is talking about.
That's more than enough to discredit "skepticalscience" as anything more than a propaganda machine.
It's more likely the non-propagandized science is far more accurate and least biased.
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@Sidewalker
Lol, your link is debunking observations with opinions. The epitome of fake "fact checking"
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No love for Baldwin. How the young eat the old.
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@Double_R
just as it didn't with Putin and Hitler.
Hitler never failed as a president for 4 years and Putin was never impeached by his own government. I am as very confident with my predictions as you are with your ham-fisted comparisons.
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Is Trump really going to get into office and say 'thanks, but this time around I think I'll go with establishment figures to run my government'? No seriously, is that what you think?
I think Trump is going to do what he did in 2016, make the best guess, and let the chips fall where they may. If that's the case, expect more of the same. You don't seriously think in 2024 that the government is going to magically decide to stop destroying Trump....
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@Double_R
What I said you could not possibly be stupid enough to believe (it's only 2 posts up) is that Trump's decision to do nothing while the US Capitol was under attack is not incompetence.
I think it's very short sighted to refuse to entertain this as a real possibility that Trump is indeed, incompetent.
He's already divided the country beyond hope. He's already amassed a cult following willing to rewrite their own understanding of what the constitution and rule of law in this country should look like.
That's nowhere near an argument for Trump deliberately and competently creating this. In fact, it's extremely easy to inadvertently sow chaos with incompetence. Your theory of Trump, the mastermind fascist magically getting superpowers in 2024 that he never had in 2016 is a real head-scratcher. And the polls reflect this ridiculous gaslight of reality that MSM prints daily with the blessings of the billionaire class. 40 percent approval for Biden with the most liberal leaning poll while Trump easily wins every battleground state. Like I remind FLRW, you guys need to step up the propaganda game, cause this aint working.
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@Best.Korea
Gavin is my kryptonite.
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@Best.Korea
I'm not worried about Biden. The far-left Democrats are busy shutting his government down over Israel. Turns out Biden is better at speeding up the revolution than Trumpy!
I win no matter what, unless there's a president Gavin.
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@FLRW
Low effort trolling is why Biden cries at night. Where's the real trolling to get the Orangeman?
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@Double_R
I take it you agreed with my other statements then. Also, still waiting on your expanded fascist list so we can collect all the checkboxes unique to Trump "the competent."
but there is absolutely no way you are stupid enough to believe this.
So it takes an educated person to declare Trump a competent person, another weird take, but OK.
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The left does not campaign on backing the blue.
What a ridiculous statement.
Pelosi literally handed out gold medals for Capitol Police who escorted protesters through the capitol building.
MSNBC then had them on 24/7
It never ceases to amaze me how strictly far-left radicals religiously follow the MSNBC narrative on Jan 6 when even Pelosi's own daughter knows better.
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@FLRW
the infamous Kremlin-linked troll farm
More low-effort trolling. You must really want Biden to lose to Trump.
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Moreover... I thought Biden was a puppet who didn't know what day it is? But suddenly he's the mastermind behind this entire plot? I really wish you guys would come together and get the narrative straight.
Same with you. I thought Trump was an idiot, and now all of a sudden he is a magical competent person? Weird take, but ok.
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that when Trump says he wants to get rid of the beurocrats undermining democracy that this is actually his goal and by democracy, he's talking about the he same thing the founding fathers envisioned?
Irrelevant. If he is the only one making the campaign promise, then he will be the only one that can have any credibility, no matter how small.
Do you know any politician besides Trump to make that campaign promise?
you aren't paying attention at all.
I am genuinely surprised that you give Trump so much credit regarding competency. You are his biggest appraiser in this thread. By far. The rest of us have no high hopes for Trump's competency.
He didn't transfer it over, we took it back.
So the Democrats usurped power from Trump, as in an insurrection? Weird take but ok.
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@FLRW
This is the kind of low effort trolling that will certainly sink Biden. Get better. The future of democracy depends on it.
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The fact that he spent the next three hours watching it on TV doing absolutely nothing and wondering why the rest of the people around him were not excited about it proves beyond a reasonable doubt that this was intentional.
Ridiculous assertion. Occam's Razor suggests it's most likely incompetence.
The false equivalences to J6 are so tiredsome.
It's not about comparing the severity, (although shutting down a DNC convention is pretty egregious)
One person got arrested for punching a female cop in the face, but was released later, and probably won't be prosecuted.
It's about the blatant "rules for thee but not for me" precursor to fascism (which you agreed was indeed a marker). None of those protesters getting arrested for "destroying democracy" are being charged for anything serious... that's a clear signal to do more of the same.
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There is a reason Hitler used the same language to describe the Jews.
Hitler also used the words "must be Eliminated"
People who use inflammatory words are not necessarily Fascists. Just because you check one out of 100 boxes does not make you a Fascist. It's weird to see you harp on this one checkbox.
Calling his political opponents vermin is just one example in an array of fascist tactics he uses.
Elaborate please.
Also, not to mention the prosecution to hold Trump accountable for that was thrown out, because of the absurdity of that claim.The trial starts in March. What are you talking about?
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MSNBC generally tries to get the facts right...
Lol. I don't trust propaganda run by billionaires. You shouldn't either.
Putin's efforts to troll Americans with fear fell flat, despite MSNBC and your best efforts. 99.5% Americans just don't really care.
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@Best.Korea
Well... the low effort trolling by the MSM with the Putin talk 24/7 most certainly did not help Biden as only .5% Americans polled cited Putin as a national concern....
That's what happens when billionaires are in charge of the propaganda machine.
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@Best.Korea
Biden is his own worst enemy. It's his election to lose, and he is currently losing badly.
Among Democrats, more Democrats polled would vote for any Democrat vs Trump than Biden vs Trump.
The disaster is real. Him taking a side in Israel and not enforcing a cease fire is just the kamikaze sword thrust.
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@Best.Korea
You better go hit the streets for Gavin if you really want to stick it to Putin.
Because people know Putin is the only real person in charge of USA affairs at this point. </sarcasm>
Actually, the polls say nobody really cares about Putin. But the low effort trolling will surely help Trump and hurt Biden.
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@FLRW
MSNBC is Putin's playhouse.
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@FLRW
It's too bad Obama didn't admire Biden, otherwise you could be proud of him.
And I would trust Obama over Grisham any day of the week, because I am skeptical.
It's also a shame more people hate Biden than Trump currently, but it must be particularly vexing for those who wasted so much time defending Biden; as so many on this site have done. Putin welcomes your downfall.
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@FLRW
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@Public-Choice
I mean, Axios' reporting is so lazy they didn't even link to the alleged Schedule F executive order despite it being readily available in the Trump White House archives.
It's not lazy, it's deliberate phishing sites masquerading as news to get gullible people to click on their sponsored links....
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@FLRW
Did you get bamboozled again by MSM? You should be more skeptical.
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@FLRW
I can't believe you bought what Trump said. Most people learned by now.
Strange that only Democrats believe his lies now.
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@YouFound_Lxam
And no, they won't be people loyal to him. They will be people loyal to the government.
And loyal to the donor class lobbyists that run the government. Trump firing them will just be a promotion to the lobby sector. That's not a fight any elected official can win, especially Trump. As long as we have an electorate that is OK and tolerant with the current lobbyist oligarchy, Trump won't be able to do anything more than he didn't do in 2016.
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@Double_R
There were never any serious fake charges...
So the now thoroughly debunked Russiagate and the 2x failed impeachments were not serious? good to know.
More recently, a great many of the fake charges brought to court failed by getting thrown out or failed in their purpose of getting Trump off the ballot in time for the election. But yes, it was never serious.
What will be different in a second Trump term is that he will only install loyalists to lead these agencies from the start and purge them of any staffers who do not share that sentiment.
Again, you have to believe he purposefully didn't want loyal people there to begin with in 2016. That's one hell of a presumption. And an even bigger one to think he suddenly became more competent over the years.
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@FLRW
Good, we can now have voter ID since fraud exists and it is no longer a left-wing conspiracy.
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Everything that came before that talked about how dangerous Trump's rhetoric is, how unfit he is and cannot be allowed to hold public office again. Right before he used the word eliminated he stuttered because he was clearly searching for a weird to finish his thought, and he chose a very bad one.
I've heard that argument before...something about the ends justifying the means?
Well I'm starting to think it's because [insert caricature here]"
So you fell asleep too...noted.
I honestly don't know why you are stressing about 2028.... the person that comes after Trump is most definitely going to be much worse and maybe even close to the level of today's media hyperbole simply due to the fact of youth and competence. You should hope Trump stays in power considering the alternatives. Imagine if we had a younger version of the current Argentina president instead in 2028.... bet that would blow your socks off!
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@Double_R
Do you seriously believe he will walk away in 2028? I'll give you a hint: No, he won't.
So why did he walk away in 2020? I don't think he magically became any different up to now, so there's no reason to predict anything different.
Trump dealing with fake charges started in 2016, not 2020, so it's not like that changed either. Your predictions are baseless. If anything, Trump will more likely be an even weaker president this time simply because he is older.
Fascism is, as I have described throughout this thread, fundamentally about manipulating large groups of people to think of our system of our governance as something that doesn't need to treat everyone equally and give everyone equal say.
So fascism is "rules for thee but not for me"
I think we are done here.
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