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@Sidewalker
I'm more hopeful of the removal of the kinds of leaders that could only manage 43 pounds of seizures.
And hopeful it never happens again.
What more do you want? Don't tell me, let me guess, you think since the Canada/US border is only 5,525 miles, Trump should build a wall and make Canada pay for it.
That's unfeasible, but Canada could possibly beef up the ports of entry on the west coast since it seems much of the precursor chemicals needed to make the stuff is coming from China. Maybe increase air patrols to find some of the distribution sites. Maybe investing in advanced detection technology and ramping up intelligence-sharing with U.S. could help track down the precursor chemicals coming in from places like China and intercept the distribution networks.
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@Sidewalker
According to the stats, what they are doing is 485 times more effective than what Mexico is doing, and I know that a trade war with Canada will have absolutely no effect on the problem.
Ok, well I don't think 43 pounds is enough. I think they could do a lot more than 43 pounds on both sides of the border to stop 20 Canadian kids from dying every day.
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@sadolite
Maybe I can get a serious answer out of somebody on this site.
Do you think being able to detect 43 pounds of Fentanyl last year was doing enough knowing 10's of thousands of young people die on both sides of that border?
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@Sidewalker
US Customs does the seizing, not Canada, and they have found that less than one fifth of one percent of the illegal fentanyl comes in through Canada.
I wasn't exactly blaming Canada or the USA, I was just asking you if you thought they were doing enough. Apparently, you don't care enough to answer that question.
Yes, I have, several in fact, and I don't blame Canada because...well, because I'm not a fucking idiot.
X to doubt.
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@FLRW
That article didn't explain how one can possibly dismantle Congress. That was just more storytime.
This is what happens when you try to post something out of your expertise.
When we start a thread about Melania, I will make sure you get tagged.
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@Double_R
How does one become an actual dictator in America? Or is that just more "storytime with DoubleR?"
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@Sidewalker
Canada makes up just 0.2% of US border fentanyl seizures
Yeah, do you think that's enough? Or do they need to seize more?
Jewish Space Lasers.
All those tens of thousands of dead Canadians can't laugh at your dumb memes.
The poorly educated
Have you had anyone young and close that died from drugs? I have.
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@cristo71
Ah, Professor Mearshimer— I have just recently become aware of him and believe he is someone worth listening to— so far at least. He doesn’t talk about feelings; he doesn’t regurgitate talking points from any particular side; he just gives the reality of the situation as he sees it.
I really like him because he can just as easily call out Trump as well as point out when he is right. That's rare.
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@cristo71
You mean less social programs, more debt, more austerity?
Exactly. This is why the burden of Tariff costs on top of defense costs has every EU leader scrambling for a fix before they lose their heads. Behind closed doors, nobody is laughing.
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EU has never been really afraid of Russia (they used to buy all their fossil fuels from Russia with no problems). Those EU leaders are afraid when all the Russiaphobes created over decades of EU propaganda will force those EU leaders to raise an army to defeat the phantom menace. Fat and lazy Europeans will protest all over at the loss of 3% GDP and conscription. And like the video stated, not a single EU boot will ever land in Ukraine to stop the liberation of the Donbas. There will either be an end to the war with the current conditions on the battlefield, or EU will nuke Ukraine into rubble. Boots on the ground was never going to happen.
The EU people will revolt all over like they did in France over raising the retirement age to 64. As bad as America has with 1st world problems, EU has it paralyzingly worse.
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@cristo71
This video exposes the true EU fears. Europeans are not afraid of either Trump or Putin.
They are afraid of their own nations, and what they will do to them when they will be forced to defend themselves as American meddling ends.
France almost had a coup over raising the retirement age 2 years, imagine when these EU leaders are forced to steal 3% GDP from the EU people...
You could argue that it's actually the EU leaders who fear the backlash from their own citizens if they are forced to make policies that divert 3% of GDP and begin conscripting young men. These leaders maintain a tight control over the state narrative and propaganda and historically shift blame to external figures like Putin or Trump to deflect attention from these domestic issues. This is just your predictable a survival strategy aimed at managing public discontent by focusing frustration on convenient scapegoats, rather than addressing the root causes of growing unrest. You really have to get out of your comfort-bubble to see that though.
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@Best.Korea
Have you had anyone young and close that died from drugs? I have.
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@sadolite
I don't know, I hear radical leftists talk all the time about this nonsense, and it makes it very difficult to believe you could ever have a rational discussion with them.
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I was looking at some .ca sites about what Canada was doing... on the plus side, it noted that it set aside some funds to set up an agency of 20 people to track and test 2000 samples a year to find the source and get an idea of how much is coming over undetected.
At first glance, you might say "hay Canada takes this seriously."
CBP admits 2 milligrams is enough for an overdose, so it knows how dangerous even small amounts seized can be. Even one pound of the stuff could kill hundreds.
But I think the only statistic that really matters is the after report.
There were a total of 50,928 apparent opioid toxicity deaths reported between January 2016 and September 2024.
Of all accidental apparent opioid toxicity deaths so far in 2024 (January to September), 75% involved fentanyl This percentage has increased by 32% since 2016 when national surveillance began.
That is 38,196 Canadian deaths over 8 years to Fentanyl.
Canada only has a population of 40 million people.
I get that 40,000 fentanyl deaths may seem small compared to a population of 40 million, but the impact is severe when considering the daily toll. In 2022 alone, opioids were responsible for about 20 deaths per day, which is more than many other common causes of premature death. To me, this reflects at least some level of public health emergency. Populations suffer greatly when a good portion of their youth is taken from them.
So is creating the PMCRU and hiring 20 people in a lab in Toronto to screen 2000 doses a year adequate?
Is seizing only 43 pounds of it during Biden's last year adequate?
Trump seems to think no.
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@Double_R
The criticism about Trump is *why* he wants a third term, the answer is because he's actively trying to rewrite our constitution for his own personal benefit
How exactly does one man do that? Genuinely curious.
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@sadolite
So let me get this straight, you watched a video of a robot doing a back flip and the very first thing that came to your mind was Trump?
lol
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@Swagnarok
They just need something to sperg off on, it doesn't matter that it was a test rocket and that many times they purposely blow up test rockets to establish safe operating limits. That's why it's a "test rocket"
There's not many left on the left that are free from brainrot.
But some people see an explosion on libtard corporate news and assume it’s just a total disaster, without understanding that testing is all about finding and fixing weaknesses.
As for the broader point, it does feel like a lot of people these days are more interested in dunking on things than actually understanding them. Nuance is in short supply. Bunch of people on this site that pretend to know science and technology and don't care if called out on it.
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@Sidewalker
I just really admired his ability to communicate.
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@Shila
That was the year Trump started selling Trump bibles for 59.99$.
Yeah, inflation was crazy in 2022!
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@Double_R
Trump is demonstrating every day just how competent he is and people are now seeing it for themselves.
yep, which is why his approval is so high rn. And Democrats approval is so low.
we've been making substantive arguments to *explain why* Trump is so terrible
Yeah, and those propaganda outlets are bleeding viewership because the 2022 one-liner narratives (Putin's puppet, Donald Drumph, Failed Billionaire, lawless felon, dictator" make no sense in today's reality. Many are going bankrupt or firing half of the staff. It's a life lesson on how to one-liner yourself into obscurity.
In the first term Trump was ....
You mean blocked by the swamp, and objectively wasn't able to get a lot of things done. The 2025 Trump isn't the same person.
announcing tariffs only to cancel them and then put them back on only to cancel them again. The man has no idea what the hell he's doing.
And it's just too bad The Democrats have no plan to regain the public trust other than to post cringe videos and repeat the same 2022 talking points. It's gonna be a long 4 years.
People thought Trump was good on the economy because of what they remember about 2019.
Nope, its what they remembered in 2022.
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@Sidewalker
You remind me of this guy:
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@Double_R
You respond only to the points you want to respond to, you offer little more than one liners
Putinmanbad, Orangemanbad were the worst one-liners for Americans. Those days are over now though.
argue that you're right cause other people say so
In a Democracy, the majority gets to decide what is moral and right. 4 years ago, Americans thought that Democrats could do better than the Orangeman. Now they are convinced that they cannot.
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@Shila
Ad Homs are the last resort of a defeated person.
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@WyIted
It may accelerate some closures in "jogger" neighborhoods, and cause "Target deserts"
But likely not much else.
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@Double_R
It costs America nothing to admit the reality that the regime change coup in 2014 didn't pan out like we planned. Just pride and regrets.
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@Mharman
Blue cheese disgusts me and people who like it weird me out.
What about bleu cheese? Is it any better? Worse? Frencher?
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@Critical-Tim
Badger is onto something necessary for true consciousness and evolved intelligence, it can only be developed in a hostile environment where connections that ensure survival can only exist. Like he said, there is no incentive, no true "reward" system.
If we are to get AI anywhere close to what human intelligence is, we would have to replicate a similar hostile environment for the AI, and I am not sure if we can duplicate that "cooker" in a way that is more efficient than millions of years of biological evolution. RL will probably have an upper limit of being a shadow of the human mind if it is only dependent on the input from human mind.
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@Double_R
Any change causes some chaos. If you are a progressive, chaos is baked into your ideology!
It's only bad when Trump does it. Where have I heard that before?
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@Amoranemix
What a relief knowing that we are free to continue the war if we are against peace.I feel a lot better now.Greyparrot:[norespone]So there is no dispute that Zelenskyy’s treatment was inappropriate. It’s just that some people prefer not the draw attention to that fact.
There is no response because the EU position is clear. Either they will either offer no cease fire because they do not trust Putin or they will fail to broker a deal with Putin because he does not trust Europe to keep to cease fires as they had broken since 2014 (look up all minsk cease fire agreements the west violated).
If Zelenskyy wants to pursue that "diplomatic" path with the EU, then he can have his everlasting war.
USA has no obligation to be a part of that. Nor does USA have any obligation to continue sheltering the hundred thousand Ukrainian men who only stand for Ukraine when someone else is dying. Send them back.
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@cristo71
To me, that is akin to saying, “I know that there are many gullible people who think milk chocolate is better, but the objective truth is that dark chocolate is clearly superior.”
Clearly, this is basic common sense... and it would be ludicrous to argue against this objective reality.
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@Double_R
We are not giving Russia anything but the costly headache and responsibility of protecting the ethnic Russian speaking Donbas from fanatical western aligned Maidan nationalists.
And that really doesn't have to cost America a dime to pass that cost onto Russia.
It costs America nothing to admit the reality that the regime change coup in 2014 didn't pan out like we planned. Just pride and regrets.
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@Double_R
If you don't believe in defending against hostile takeovers just say that
I don't believe we should give Russia any aid to prevent Maidan nationalists from retaking the Donbas. Russia can foot that bill all on their own.
150 Billion was already too much to spend supporting the Maidan nationalists. USA hasn't failed this much in regime changing since the Bay of Pigs fiasco.
Russia got itself into this mess and can handle the costs of holding onto the Donbas as its goal. The amount spent on Ukraine has been staggering, whether that money was well spent or just to fuel a prolonged stalemate to enrich others. At some point, nations have to decide how much intervention is actually in their best interest versus just sinking resources into an endless conflict that has no benefit for America. Neither Russia nor the Maidan nationalists give a crap about America. They really don't care if you stand for or against them.
The $150 billion spent since 2014 on backing the Maidan nationalists has been a massive financial commitment with limited success, much like previous U.S. interventions in places like Iraq, Afghanistan, and Cuba. Regime change is a tough game, and it’s clear that the U.S. has overestimated its ability to impose long-term political shifts. Rather than pouring more money into a conflict with no clear end in sight, it makes more sense to acknowledge the failure, reassess the strategy, and focus on areas where U.S. interests can actually be protected without further escalation. It’s a lesson in humility, really.
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@Sidewalker
Letting Putin win will not bring peace, the war will just move to where he wants it to go next.
Sure, it's still not worth another 150 Billion to stop EU from nuking Ukraine into dust.
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@WyIted
We should go back to funding transgender rockets and feces art and calling that a success.
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@Dr.Franklin
I also see the war as the liberation of the Donbas from the radical Maidan nationalists.
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@Double_R
Im very okay with admitting this isnt a war worth 150 billion in American dollars to continue.
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@cristo71
It depends if Zelenskyy can agree with Trump to find a way to end the war.
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@cristo71
That probably came on the heels of his impending impeachment by the Ukraine parliament.
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@Double_R
if you want the war to end, then blame the guy trying to invade another country.
Yes, blaming is the only path to a negotiated peace. Or is it?
It's far more likely blaming is the only path to continue the war. And make no mistake, Zelenskyy demonstrated fully that he is determined to continue this war.
When, not if Ukraine can no longer sustain its resistance to the liberation of the Donbas, then the war will likely end with Russia imposing its terms. Without a negotiated settlement, the only outcome is determined by military capability and external support. When that support weakens and Ukraine's defenses break, the conflict will end through force rather than diplomacy. For a president desperate to hold on to power, that is the sacrifice Zelenskyy is willing to make for all of Ukraine.
Another likely scenario is a second coup much like the 2014 coup where yet another elected president is violently ousted from Ukraine, and then a negotiated peace may be possible.
Or perhaps a more civil impeachment this time around?
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@Amoranemix
War is the continuation of diplomacy by other means.
Yes, so we agree, this is the kind of "Diplomacy" Zelenskyy demands, and not the kind that Trump desires.
So when Zelenskyy rudely interrupted Vice-President Vance and called him "JD" and asked him "What kind of diplomacy"... he was affirming that this is the kind of diplomacy that he wanted. A continuation of the war.
According to the MAGA-fanatics, if an army invades your country and you resist, that implies you don’t want peace.
I don't know where you are getting that from. We are Americans over here, not "MAGA-fanatics"
74% of us want the war to end. You can want to have peace and still resist by other means. But you are just affirming what I said before.
"Ukraine-fanatics" (to equate your oversimplification) only want the kind of diplomacy that continues the war.
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@cristo71
then one is more likely to view Zelenskyy as being overconfident in his position.
Worse than that. Trump and JD Vance came into the meeting expecting Zelensky to be open to the possibility of a cease fire. Zelensky was the one who ambushed JD Vance by questioning the "kind of diplomacy" that would lead to a cease fire...
As Devil's advocate, it could be that Trump already knew Zelensky was not interested in a cease fire under any circumstance, and made sure that was captured on TV for all Americans to see for themselves.
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@WyIted
There is no economic advantage being in a military alliance with EU when the EU has a trade cartel that excludes the USA (and Canada too!). If they want to only trade among themselves, then they can rely on each other to protect each other within their own exclusive economic group they created for themselves.
Either allow American membership into the EU, or USA can reconsider it's membership in NATO.
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Now Europe can have a glorious war along with Ukraine because peace is not something either want at this time. 74% of Americans want peace.
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@Shila
Zelenskyy is free to continue the war with EU support.
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@Double_R
We're not talking about legal technicalities, we're talking about basic principals.
You are kind of side stepping another SGC principle in that less federal funding always equates to a smaller federal government. SGC's were very upset when a lower court forced taxpayers to continue funding USAID 2 billion dollars after it was exposed where all the funds were actually going. They would be equally upset if a lower district court were to order Trump to waste their taxes supporting a policy charging poor people to use the "royal" highways.
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@Amoranemix
The only possible way to have the perception that Trump was a bully is to assume that USA owes Zelensky.
Americans overwhelmingly (over 74%) want that war to end, so Americans do not feel obligated anymore.
Europe is free to expand the war at their own cost and peril if they are against peace.
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