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@Vegasgiants
Right, you are just exposing which party has more power and more corruption.
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@jamgiller
Apart from public corruption, we also have private corruption between individuals and businesses. For instance, education, heritage, marriage, etc
Just curious, what would be an example of corruption through marriage?
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@Sidewalker
Amen brotha.
***jive hand slapping intensifies***
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@jamgiller
Since capitalists have "absolute power" over their businesses, do you agree that they are absolutely corrupt?
That's called autonomy. You should have absolute power over your own stuff. Corruption happens when you also have power over other people's stuff.
In today's crony capitalism, corporate America can and does use the government to enforce their will on others. Let's take that power away by not just removing their corrupt attack dogs, but by destroying the systemic kennel as well.
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@SkepticalOne
So the judge is a solid Democrat? Noted.
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@jamgiller
You're trying to sneak in a libertarian anti-government idea into an otherwise agreeable post about corruption.
It really is hard to rebut the maxim "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"
A simple observation that a person's sense of morality lessens as his or her power increases.
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when thrown in your narcissistic face.
Easy with the ad-homs sir.
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@jamgiller
Also, I want to be clear that since the SCOTUS essentially legalized bribery in the Citizens United case, corruption is baked into the US political system.
To be fair, corruption was already legal long before that case, as Congress still continues to make millions off of insider trading when they set economic policies for the whole country and then capitalize on the stock gains. The real currency exchange happens when paid lobbyists exchange votes for dollars, which means the politicians pay the lobbies by appropriating tax dollars through corporate welfare in exchange for lobby votes, where they don't directly pay the candidates for campaigns, rather they independently get the vote out through subsidiaries.
We could lose all direct payments to politicians and it still wouldn't make a dent in the current corruption because of all these other mechanisms. As long as the government has such control, there is going to be corruption. The fix for this kind of corruption is not more laws and control. It's less government control and more freedom.
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@TWS1405_2
Comparative fact based arguments in rebuttal to a notorious position are perfectly valid arguments.
That's not what he is talking about. When you use whataboutism to counter hypocrisy, you are essentially throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Hypocrisy is an act counter to acceptable behavior.
Whataboutism attacks the standards an which hypocrisy is judged.
Whataboutism is an obfuscation tactic that partisan people use to deflect criticism or avoid taking responsibility for their actions. When someone calls them out for being hypocritical, instead of owning up to it, they respond by bringing up someone else's unrelated mistake or wrongdoing, saying something like, "Well, what about when you did this?" It's a way of trying to shift the focus away from their own hypocrisy by pointing out the faults of others.
Whataboutism doesn't ever address the original accusation of hypocrisy and seems to normalize bad behavior by saying "look, all these other people do it too." It's like a diversion tactic to avoid facing the real issue. It might make it seem like they have a point, but it doesn't excuse their own inconsistency or double standards; instead, it justifies bad standards. This is why the powerful elite in both parties actively promote whataboutism to allow corruption to continue.
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@ebuc
@Best.Korea
"The problem with the world today is nobody is punished for lying, they are punished for telling the truth."
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@jamgiller
Biden has shown some opposition to Trump.
Not enough in my opinion. He kept a lot of policies in place especially the tax cuts, plus he hasn't delivered on any of the major promises meaning he lies as bad as any Republican. Especially the student loan scam which he kept promising.
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@jamgiller
Do you think Biden's lies would make him a good Republican?
Since all the Republicans do is lie?
I'm not a Democrat, but if I were, I wouldn't be supporting that bag of crap.
And really, this thread is all about Republicans, so I don't know why you would be talking about the other party.
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@ebuc
And so the oil flows through the orange torus pipeline.
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So you think it's a negative that I recognize that there are politicians on both sides who are trash?
For both parties, I would say that is a negative.
"what about Biden?"
No I didn't. I sarcastically said Biden should make a good conservative since he is so trash.
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@jamgiller
Lol at you trying to claim a benefit of whataboutism.
Unintended usually means negative, not a positive good.
are incapable of recognizing faults in representatives of their own side.
Someone better get a memo out to all the GOP candidates that lost elections then, cause pretty sure their party told them to F off.
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@jamgiller
I'm not a member of either party, but it is interesting that you recognize both parties are trash, which I guess was the unintended effect of whataboutism.
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Conservatives only ever seem to care when it is not a GOP politician though, and if someone brings up something negative about a GOP politician, conservatives usually resort to whataboutism.
I mean to say, this is really both parties. We have had 2 straight years of "what about Trump" when anyone dares question Biden on anything.
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@jamgiller
If the false dichotomy is going to be between Whataboutism and Hypocrisy, that's a no brainer.
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@Double_R
why focus so hard on his federal charges that would seem to have nothing to do with what he allegedly witnessed?
The news is about the pea deals, not the charges. Nobody cared if Cohen or Manafort went to jail.
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@Double_R
Just like Manafort and Cohen, Hunter is a material witness.
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@cristo71
Here is a recent story about a rare race worshipper. They are actually mostly in Universities where they can be shielded from scrutiny.
A broken place of learning is where professors can't questioned. In a good school, we ask the hard questions and make sure our teachers are doing a good job. When they can't be checked, it feels like they can do whatever they want, and there is no pushback. Where is the challenge that spurs growth and progress? Evil thrives when good men do nothing.
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@cristo71
After reading this, I can't help but feel baited into reading something I already knew....the entire entry reads like a Dr. Sowell book!
Although.... the part about where the English thought the Irish were a different race was interesting when discussing the origins of racism.
We still regularly dehumanize people today, even though globally, the religion of racism itself is almost all but dead. How else are we going to sell the idea of war to the common people?
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@Double_R
Paul Manafort was also a private citizen. Fasa registering isn't hard to do. Neither is paying our taxes. Hunter could have asked his Dad for help at any time.
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@FLRW
@TWS1405_2
Easy now! ...or I will have to sic my FBI friend on you.
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Der, I’m a libertarian. Everything I saw begins with what about… because I’m a brainless fool.
You shouldn't insult yourself to get vapid meaningless attention from internet strangers. It's unhealthy.
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That’s perfect. Lol
Stop defending evil Repuglicans and display the proper level of outrage.
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Poor Hunter can't catch a break. Those evil Repugs won't rest till Hunter is under the jail.
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@FLRW
What are your thoughts about Biden's lies about his dead son? Does that make Biden the GOP treasure that he is?
A Washington Post-ABC poll released this month found that just 32% of the public believes Biden has the mental sharpness required to serve as president. As if WAPO has any business questioning the president.
This could be bad news for the GOP if Biden is not allowed a 2nd term to promote GOP policies.
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MMM sweet Wapo spam. So delish.
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@Double_R
race is categorically different from a framework of any kind.
This reads like postmodern gobbledygook where facts can never be defined.
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Every Democracy is built on a strong foundation of 3rd rate ex-comedians who have a talk show on YouTube providing information and incite to the ignorant masses.
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@TWS1405_2
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@ADreamOfLiberty
For instance if the story about the twin towers was supplemented with "but we built a new tower cause you can't keep us down" that would not be offensive. One could easily imagine attributing skills in slaves to their ambition in the face of adversity rather than some kind of justification for slavery.
Every culture has been enslaved at some point in history, and every culture has overcome and advanced. Some time in the future, people will once again, throw off the shackles of crony corporate government and prosper as well.
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@Double_R
Would you prefer I take the TWS approach and just start shouting insults at you in all caps?
Please don't lol.
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@ludofl3x
How easy was it in, say 1875, for a black person to own a business in let's say South Carolina?
Back in the 1800's, the means of production in the South was predominately farming, not "small business" as we commonly know it. Thomas Sowell has some great literature describing how some white immigrants came over with superior farming skills while others came over with very poor farming skills. Regardless of how those skills are acquired, there is a marked correlation between learned skills and prosperity in groups of all skin colors.
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@Double_R
Theory” has a meaning in science which is essentially no different than a fact.
They are quite different. Do you want the Chatgpt explanation as if you are explaining it to an 8 year old? It is a bit funny!
I do find it strange you are unwilling to call your beliefs on race a "theory"
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@prefix
In the National Park near me there was a trail that turned out to be too dangerous to travel. So what did the NPS do? Did they blame the Republicans? NO.Did they ask for understanding that the injured persons were just "trying for a better hike"? NO.
Well, this nuance would most certainly already have been covered by a Wapo propagandist opinion piece that cultists could readily copy and paste as a sign of grace and worship...
Verified by 57 government agencies of course.
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Ohh wapo spam. Saweet! Someone get that man a straw!
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Strawman.
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@Best.Korea
As long as you do not hate the government. That can put you in jail for an insurrection.
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@cristo71
So this is why government has a motive to create a problem because the solution justifies Marxist control.
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@Vegasgiants
No fetus has ever survived outside the womb at 20 weeks.
Actually, we have the science to grow a fetus from fertilized egg to person in a lab.
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@Double_R
I already explained what race is..
That's not answering my question.
Do you think the modern concept of race resembles a theory rather than a fact? I want to know how you view your explanation. Is it a theory or a fact?
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@TWS1405_2
So what should the history books be teaching? Union troops, after burning Atlanta to the ground, went shack to shack among black families and instructed every one of them how to farm a field? Because every single slave without exception learned zero productive skills as a slave? Maybe reinforce the current racism that states if you have Black skin you are unable to learn trade skills?
Is this the acceptable counternarrative?
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@cristo71
If you mean an entrenched, irreparable, white supremacy based, global scale “nepotism”, then yes, that is what they’re describing. If you mean good old fashioned nepotism, then I disagree.
This is only the logical progression after the public was sold on the idea of "unconscious racism"
As if simply breathing air is a clear sign of racism whether you know it or not.
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