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@PREZ-HILTON
Following the Butler Plan to get away from the madness.
That's the chads ghosting California on twitter.
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@FLRW
I can't say I am upset you TDS guys are hellbent on having Trump on the next presidential ticket. Mostly disappointed at the short sightedness.
I sure hope you guys know what you are doing.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Right. California is that whiney adult child in their parent's house who will never leave willingly. Despite daily reminders about how awesome they are.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Also the Royal Family, probably a bit more weighty than a comedian looking for clout.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
So much for keeping Trump off the ballot this cycle :/
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@Double_R
Many women would disagree that only an armed man is a threat to their life.
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@Double_R
Except that small Chinese plastic toys don't also save lives. You left that out. Common sense here.
because the perpetrator themself had a gun.
Most Rapists don't use nor need a gun.
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@PREZ-HILTON
How about this compromise, leftists clean up all the crazy people and homeless people, then we can ban guns, starting with cops and bodyguards.
If that's not worth it to eliminate the violence porn on main stream news, then nobody is really serious about actual gun control.
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@PREZ-HILTON
It actually does though. If your goal is to kill as many people as humanly possible you would really go with a knife into a school instead of something that would get you a higher kill count such as mass poisonings? Just think about which strategy you would adopt if that is your goal and guns aren't available.
There is no political party, right or left, that is serious about reducing mass shootings. If you ban all the fringe rifles that crazy people use, they aren't going to use "a knife" or "poison"
They will use the most popular weapon of all time in America, the handgun.
Criminals, who can have access to literally any weapon in the world prefer...wait for it...the Glock.
Have you heard any party calling to ban handguns? None, zip, nada.
What this means is that even if politicians do for once what they say they will do, America will still have mass shootings....with handguns.
You can stop hyperventilating now over the false concern politicians have for gun violence.
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@Mharman
We also arguably have the worst mental health care in the world. Some of the things our leaders do actually create insane people.
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@b9_ntt
Maybe, but there has never been a single discussion about handgun control, so it shows that no party is actually going to do anything meaningful anyway.
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@Mharman
Amazes me how many foreigners know what's going on in America and have no idea what the streets on any major city on the west coast looks like with crazy people free to do whatever, and it's just a simple gun problem going on here.
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@badger
And yet USA inexplicably....
It's not inexplicable. Authoritarian nations will always have lower rates of fringe behavior over free nations. America literally allows crazy people to run wild in the streets.
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@TWS1405_2
They guy has no problem shipping 100 billion dollars worth of American guns to prolong the Ukraine/Donetsk civil war, but the rest of the world needs to be gun free....
Typical drunk Irish logic.
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@badger
What's your plan, genius?
Prolly live a very chill life without the DT's
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@n8nrgim
Yeah, but be honest when you say "Some" guns. We are talking about .01% of all guns.
And I can say guns never kill anyone and be talking about 99.99 percent of them.
This matters a LOT.
Considering out of 278,063,737 cars and 38,824 deaths in 2020, Guns are slightly less dangerous than cars...
And most cars don't kill people either.
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@n8nrgim
But nobody makes that claim. We claim crazy people with guns kill people. You can't say "crazy guns" kill people. In fact, the vast majority of guns never kill anyone.
45,222 2020 deaths recorded out of 465 million guns (99.99%)
So if 99% of all guns in America never kill anyone, why would you say guns kill people? You could say ".01% of guns killed people in 2020" and I would say, "Yeah, that's right."
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@TWS1405_2
If confiscating guns is the only way to stop mass shootings, then they should start with the Capitol police before taking them from everyone else.
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@b9_ntt
You know that 81 percent of all mass shootings had a semi-auto handgun involved in the killing right? So you are OK with that level of slaughter?
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@n8nrgim
Sorry, but if you throw a million guns overboard to the bottom of the Pacific, you can't claim a single one of those guns could kill a person. So you cannot make the general claim that all guns kill people.
gun actually do kill people.
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@Best.Korea
At least RM is admitting Putin is Best :)
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@badger
You do realize that our law enforcement barely catches 10% of all the criminals in our most gun violent prone cities. It will be a very long time before all those guns are confiscated, assuming criminals do not replace them with stolen or illegal guns and the law enforcement isn't slapped with a lawsuit for having systemic racist policies....
America is screwed.
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@badger
Sidewalker, Double, oro, whiteflame, FLRW..
Those people don't run the Democrat party. None of those decent people are represented by today's Democrat party.
There's not a single one of them happy with Biden.
America is screwed.
You remind me of the Baron Harkonen, GP.
Hmm what character would you be in Herberts world?
Probably Duke Leto, morally twisted between the perception of the greater of evils, but strong enough to bite the suicide tooth at the end, even under a drunken Irish stupor.
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@badger
America is screwed because the left is just as ludicrous.
Huge complications in supply...
Sadly, guns are still usable for decades and longer if kept oiled.
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@coal
I think I agree with this, but I don't know enough to have an informed opinion. I agree that FDR and the progressive era redefined what it meant to be an American citizen, and I think that was probably the start of the destruction of the non-state institutions that held the fabric of American society together. But I know very little about Greek and Roman history.
There used to be a time when society EXPECTED neighbors to look out for each other, and for neighbors to band together to protect their cities, and cities to band together to protect their states.
No longer is this the case. I won't bore you with obvious examples.
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@coal
The concept of an "American citizen" today is essentially a dead concept. Most people born here cannot define what it is or what it means to be an American. (although immigrants can still easily tell you ironically)
Every year unleashes more and more anti-nationalist fringe groups intent on transforming the nation into some global conglomerate. Whenever an issue arises, there is always another nation America should emulate. America used to be the shining beacon for the world. The Constitution is holding the nation together by thread strings, but the writing is on the wall unless the people fight for independence and freedom as their ancient ancestors once did.
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When they go to school, they sit in prison-like "educational institutions" under fluorescent lights and forced to stay inside listening to shitty people (most teachers I think are pretty shitty people) drone on about shit the kids do not see the value of, for the purpose of performing on standardized tests that set the trajectory of their lives.
I would never do this to my high school students. If I'm not getting fistbumps and smiles all day, then there's something horribly wrong.
They grow up disconnected from their families and without a place in their communities,They get placed on lists, labeled, categorized, evaluated, diagnosed with behavioural problems, pumped up with prescription drugs.
Agree. There are a lot of kids I see void of spirit and drive, living in their phones, rarely smiling. That's not the ideal.
Most of the mass shooters come from deeply troubled backgrounds. But people with deeply troubled backgrounds aren't new, either. The only thing that's changed is that almost all kids now either do not grow up in two-parent households, or if they do, both parents work.
Thomas Sowell agrees.
I think it started with FDR and the progressives, frankly.
The FDR era was the beginning of the end of the concept of the privilege and responsibility of citizenship. FDR used the existing fabric of citizenship to draft men and employ women to fight a foreign war 10,000 miles away as a means to justify a complete restructuring of the government where the government, not the citizen is responsible for maintaining the social fabric and the social welfare. The very concept that kept the Greek and Romans so prosperous for so long was destroyed within the reign of one president.
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@PREZ-HILTON
my bad
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@Sir.Lancelot
<3 <3
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@Sidewalker
Clearly we need to recruit more trans terrorists to thin out republicans
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@Mharman
I'm not going to participate in this thread, I only did it for Prez.
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Reposted per Prez request.
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@cristo71
I did read a lot of gun and ammo stockpiling happened under Obama due to ban fears.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Ty for doing the Lord's work sir
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@Mharman
Actually, how fast does it take most people to unlock their phones? Couldn't you set up the same thing for a gun with a pin or something?
Like you would have to touch the handle a certain way with a combination of finger presses? I am just brainstorming
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@Mharman
It's better than locks and safes since the lock is on the gun itself, but you can still use it quickly when needed (in theory)
Needs research for sure
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I wonder how effective they are, and if they can be mandated without enabling government tyranny. I’ll look into it later, but what are your thoughts on them?
The science isn't there yet, but it's potentially a better solution than what we currently do.
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@Mharman
This might be a good compromise.
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@Mharman
Agree, I will join your pledge. When shame fails, shunning is necessary.
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@cristo71
@n8nrgim
Around 1970 was the beginning of a long and still current decline of the 2 parent family especially for minorities. It's a massive driver of crime which would cause people to want more guns for protection. And then as gun regulations started to soar in response to the crime, it made even more people nervous about a possible outright ban on guns.
Am I close?
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@Intelligence_06
Well, we have tried to ban some people in some places and we know how that turned out.
Good point
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@bmdrocks21
I feel like he is getting desperate, making far dumber claims than when he initially joined the site
Yes, no need to kick a broken man.
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@PREZ-HILTON
I will stop interacting, sorry.
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@coal
There is no world where I am going to empower the government to define groups of people who they can deny constitutional rights to, based on the determinations of alleged "experts."
Amen.
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@coal
I would think with your personal experiences that you would see the connection. I would love to hear your thoughts on what motivates the current fad of conversion therapy for dysphoric people. Specifically how society used to insist a gay man could (and should) be converted into a straight man and society now insists a masculine woman (or girl) must be converted into a man.
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@Sidewalker
Or you can defund Earthquakes. They are known for racial abuse.
If you ban earthquakes, then only criminals would have earthquakes leaving law abiding citizens defenseless
So ban criminals. Problem solved.
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@Sidewalker
So ban people. Problem solved.
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