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@WyIted
the bone of preferential treatment because you're white.
I imagine if I wore my pants around my ass and spoke Redneck English that my skin color wouldn't open many doors up for me.
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tell us how you really feel about the antiquated science of skin
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@badger
I think this captures the essence of it and quite poetically if I do say so myself.
Yes, considering almost nobody is rich off of gold in California anymore. Capitalism made sand more valuable than gold in silicon valley.
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buzzwords?
you are the one tossing hackneyed words like racist around to describe anything and everything.
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@WyIted
Regulation should be a good thing.
The problem with regulation and why it becomes corrupt over time is because it's based on coercion, anti-freedom and theft. While people can and will say, stealing from evil people is practical, moral, and just, the underlying mechanism inherently leads toward corruption.
Compare and contrast this with principles that are based on freedom and liberty.
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lul wut?
Maybe that word means something in Ireland, but it has no meaning in America anymore.
But feel free to start hammering on your own land until the sirens show up and yank it out of your hand.
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@badger
doesn't matter, even if he builds it on a rich man's land or his own land, it won't be the rich dude that shows up to stop him.
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If a man goes to Home Depot, gets a bunch of lumber, and starts building a house, it won't be a private rich person showing up to stop him.
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Labourers can and should tear down employers who take too much.
Should Laborers also tear down other Laborers who take too much?
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@badger
Capitalism is the gold rush. That's its roots. Men with pickaxes and ambition in a wide open world. Now an increasingly small few own all the land. We'll be lucky if they let us handle rakes.
Survival of the fittest sucks, and any religious person should curse a God that invented it.
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@Sidewalker
yeah, if you were working there for 20+ years and bought 10% of your salary in stock, you would have 12 million dollars. Easy peasy.
Like Wylted said, many workers at Publix retired after 20 years with millions of dollars worth of stock.
The closing price for Apple (AAPL) in 2005 was $2.16, on December 30, 2005. It was up 122% for the year. The latest price is $241.51.
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@badger
New York is very segregated in some places.
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@Sidewalker
Nope, just buy as much as every other worker.
Easy peasy.
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@WyIted
Predictably, CNN regularly runs cover for these corrupt agencies, demanding evidence instead of speaking truth to power and collecting the evidence on their own volition.
Instead of actively investigating or exposing corruption, they demand others provide evidence first.... arguably missing an easy opportunity to act as the "watchdog" the press is ideally supposed to be. 36 trillion dollars of debt didn't just evolve out of perfectly run systems....
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@whiteflame
the existence of any organization
I see you conveniently left out the corrupt and inefficient modifiers. That's the kind of bad faith arguments people regularly make by removing the modifier "illegal" from migrants.
I really expected better.
And that's not a commonly held belief, to hire more people in order to reduce waste, fraud, and abuse, as the staff is often complicit in it all.
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@whiteflame
What I listed was instances where these agencies are understaffed.
Same principle. A corrupt and inefficient enterprise will never be adequately staffed.
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@WyIted
I might become an AI ambassador to humanity at some point.
Technically labor shortages should result in the staff only doing the most important and urgent things
All the armchair experts thought X would collapse under it's own weight when 80% of the staff was fired, but it seems to be doing just fine.
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@WyIted
Even if the naysayer pessimism were to bear full fruit, the logistics of the alphabet agency cuts can't have as an immediate effect as they claim. It's not as though if the FDA were to skip all inspections that meat companies will all of a sudden feel free to sell poisoned meat. There are a great many other checks for that other than the FDA.
Much of what you see as "necessary" is not only inefficient and corrupt, but in most cases, redundant. And even if it took a few years for states to regain local control to repair the inefficiencies of central planning, it's not like you would notice anything different from a day to day basis. The changes would be near imperceptible, but the waste would be vastly diminished.
And listing all the alphabet agencies' spending woes with no context of the included waste and fraud isn't evidence of practical underfunding.
We spend 3x per student per day for education compared to Japan and have much worse outcomes. All the money in the world can't fund that level of corruption and incompetence adequately.
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@WyIted
yeah, that's the kind of partisan BS I was hoping to get away from. Much of this is common sense to get behind, and the public polls are not happy with the partisanship over common sense.
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@WyIted
lets hope RFK treats the food lobby like he treats big pharma
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@whiteflame
The point is simply that Trump won't turn people away simply because there is a (D) by their name. That's a vast improvement over what usually happens.
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@whiteflame
It most certainly had nothing to do with being an ultra-partisan. There's actually a lot of internal rumblings among Democrats with the hard line their leaders have drawn defending big lobbies at all costs. That was not always a position associated with the Democrat brand.
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@whiteflame
He has no incentive to hear them out.
He heard Fetterman, but I guess the bar is set high here for whatever reason.
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@WyIted
Cause I never say anything that contradicts him.
Sadly, that's only because we read the same books...
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@whiteflame
Lol, Fetterman is far more disagreeable with Trump than agreeable. I can't accept your argument on him being a "Trumper"
Trump has always been a negotiator. To frame him as being a hard-line partisan makes a terrible mistake that loses the popular support. Democrats have every opportunity to reshape a future free from lobbies. The sad fact is that they can't because their house is just too dirty, and it shows with the lack of leadership and direction.
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@whiteflame
(and yes, I’d like to see that evidence, since simply pointing to a few cases like this isn’t much)
Yeah, it's not just taking in former and listening to present Democrats (Fetterman isn't a former Democrat)
He also isn't lockstep with people in his own partisan aisle like Mitch McConnell (who is as about pro-lobby as it gets)
Being anti-lobby used to be exclusively a progressive Democrat policy. It's really sad to see how deep that corruption has gone since the 90's.
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@whiteflame
Trump has next to no incentive to take what the Democrats in Congress say into account
Excluding Tulsi, RFK, Fetterman, and a few others....
Again, Trump used to be a Democrat. He would certainly allow across the aisle action. I'd actually claim with evidence that Trump is the least hard-line partisan in modern presidencies. Democrats are on the wrong side of the lobby issue here, and it's causing massive damage to their branding.
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@whiteflame
That masks that influence. I'm sure people will love believing that the health industry is free of that influence, just too bad it won't be.
I guess we will find out when those agencies are rendered useless to the lobbies and the money is returned to the states either through block grants, or more efficient and accountable local taxation over federal waste. Lord knows the propaganda machine is in full force explaining how the world will end if we return to the time where things ran....a lot better actually without all the centralized planning.
Democrats could work across the aisle and help shape this dismantling in a practical (and popular) way, but there are not enough uncompromised leaders ATM in their Congress.
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@whiteflame
or that the funding he received for his campaign doesn't sway his views at all, is absurd
Well, I was unaware he was being paid money to support the same big lobbies he regularly hauls into court for malfeasance. That would indeed be quite the hat-trick.
Big business will always have a dramatically outsized influence on government,
Unlikely if, as predicted, the federal alphabet agencies those big lobbies launder influence through like the FDA are neutered or dismantled. When regulatory power returns to the states, it will be far harder to purchase influence without getting caught, even in New York and California.
a) I don't think the price we will pay will be worth it,
What price would be acceptable? 70 more years of the same? That's an unsustainable solution.
and if simply placing RFK into this position will make people think that their influence is reduced..
The people have figured out the game by now that all ultra-wealthy lobby actions reduce popular influence. Trump got more support with RFK, not less.
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@whiteflame
I find it very unlikely people will think RFK is "biased" when he says a drug is safe over the "pronouncement" of a massive beneficiary of big lobby subsidies. It's why RFK seems popular with the anti-lobby crowd.
Quite the opposite, for better or worse. His opinion won't be purchased by the ones making and selling the drugs.
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@whiteflame
There's a good argument that Trump blindly follows the advice of advisors. He did not seem to question Fauci much in 2020.
However, most people agree a 2025 Trump is quite a bit different in this area.
An additional benefit of having RFK as an advisor is that if and when RFK says something medical is safe, he will be far more trusted than someone in the pocket of big pharma. That opinion will seem very genuine, even if Trump rejects his opinion. Did I mention RFK was a Democrat for most of his life? (along with Trump)
Many of those ideas (the old Democrat ideas, not the new garbage) still remain. There was a time when the Democrat brand meant against government abuse, against the CIA, against fraud, against big lobbies, against War. Most of the people making up hypotheticals during the hearings were massive beneficiaries from big lobby money.
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@WyIted
see, they just needed to invest in stocks. easy peasy
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@WyIted
Publix is one
Who pays if the company goes bankrupt?
Can all the employees set their own salary?
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@WyIted
Every worker can have a vote on the board. So simple, just buy the stock and risk some investment.
Not only do they get to vote, they can set their own salary to whatever they want.
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@Best.Korea
Doge.
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@ILikePie5
No one ever protects me
You know what I did.
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@WyIted
Why did you casually accept a town Joat role?
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I tried to convince Casey not to fake claim Joat, although I predicted Wylted would tear the fake claim up before Luna...You let me down Wylted!
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Lol, I blocked you years ago for being an unapologetic, rude sonofabitch. I didn't really care that you were a Marxist.
I don't mind having a conversation with far-left radical Marxists like DoubleR as long as they are halfway civil about it.
Badger gets a pass because he's Irish, so that's just an Irishman being friendly.
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@WyIted
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@WyIted
I watch CNN to see what story they are selling midwits and boomers so I can have a response prepared
Same reason. It's hilarious to see what echo chambers can do the mind. I come on here daily to observe the effects.
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@WyIted
It's weird how the far-left refuses to admit Malcolm X was right about them.
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@Double_R
great clip wasn't it?
TDS is the kryptonite.
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@WyIted
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@Double_R
You know, the people whose literal job it is to investigate corruption within the government.
Hmmmm, maybe if they did their job, The Orangeman wouldn't be trolling your party to support the 20% side of 80-20 issues...lulz...
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@Best.Korea
covid shot really isn't what people imagine a vaccine does as you can still get it, possibly still die from it, and spread it. covid shot is really just a pre-emptive therapy just like the flu shot.
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@IlDiavolo
It really doesn't matter what RFK thinks. If Trump is pro-vaccine, then vaccines won't change.
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