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@3RU7AL
there is a huge difference in the "burden of proof" between criminal and civil trials
So you support guilty until proven innocent hearings. Please stop.
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@3RU7AL
He violated parole and then had documented terrible violent behavior while in prison. Stop with the DINDU worship plse.
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@coal
and the depths of his corruption, of course.
Hard to tell which is more, the amount of money Biden made off of taxpayers (and is still making) during his long tenure or the amount of money Trump lost in 4 years.
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@coal
Lol, what's the point of investigating Trump if he is presumed guilty? It makes the circus theatrics doubly pointless.
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@ILikePie5
It’s obvious he supports fascistic usurpation of power.
it's a wildly unpopular position lol. Enjoy being a fringe edgelord I guess?
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which is basically he said she said.
Sounds much like that Schiff rant where he made up a story about what Trump said in a partisan hearing. Remember Orangemanbad storytime with Schiff?
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@Double_R
if they don't presume anything they have nothing to investigate.
The only thing they should be presuming is that someone failed to protect Democracy. Someone in charge of setting up the security for the Capitol.
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@Double_R
More like, because you don't have an actual argument.
What is it to argue? it's a political theatric show that objectively got no traction. 88% of people think we are on the wrong track. 26% of Democrats do NOT want Biden to run again. Cheney and everyone else on the Jan6 commission including Pelosi are lame ducks.
5% of all voters think it's an important issue for the 2022 elections. Nobody cares but the radical orangemanbads.
If you wanna argue that the future of America is better off with the Orangemanbads remaining in political power, you haven't made that wildly unpopular argument anywhere in this thread. You also haven't made any arguments as to why the Orangemanbads are objectively the most qualified to protect our democratic institutions.
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This is a congressional hearing, not a criminal trial
So there's no bad guy either. Confirmation bias theatre is boring AF.
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@Double_R
More whataboutisms. Why am I not surprised?
Cause Nov is going to be a much more fun and happier month than January? :D
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@3RU7AL
"he was a good boy", " aspiring rapper", "he was a loving father of 12", "he had ambitions for playing in the NFL and loved video games"
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@3RU7AL
Violating probation is a crime and you can be jailed for it. Thanks for the cool DINDU story link.
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@FLRW
FLRW = Females Lost Rights as Women.
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@ILikePie5
the person running the federal government
Lol, Trump was run off by the federal government. Swamp- 1 Trump - 0
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@Double_R
Are you familiar with money laundering? That's when one uses a business transaction to hide the true nature of a payment.
Like when Biden sells 1 million barrels of tax payed SR oil to China via a company his son works in? Also Ukraine?
the action of provoking unlawful behavior
Like peacefully intimidating a judge at his house? Why isn't Biden in jail for this?
the person running the federal governmentYou can't be serious.
The federal government is way too bloated for any one man to run. Time to burn some of it off like they do to prevent forest fires.
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@ILikePie5
So we can replace all legal terms of woman with female since woman has no meaning anymore.
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@ILikePie5
If that we're the case we'd have quite a few more murderers on the streets.Like every state run by one party for 50 years?
Probably is what happens when prosecutors presume people are innocent or guilty based on skin color or some other meaningless bias.
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@Double_R
The fact that we know who was responsible before the investigation took place does nothing to discredit the investigation.
Confirmation bias plus everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Even the orangeman.
If that we're the case we'd have quite a few more murderers on the streets.
Like every state run by one party for 50 years?
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1984 is a warning, not a how-to guide.
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@Danielle
Anti-choicers are not okay with allowing abortion to the point of viability though.
There's enough bi-partisan support for a right to abort up to viability.
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@Danielle
Imagine how backward America would have been if abolitionists refused to vote for the 13th amendment because it didn't outlaw Jim Crow laws lul.
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@Danielle
Think about it this way. we got the CRA ONLY after the 13th and 14th amendments
Think of it a stepping stone if it were codified into law a right to have an abortion up to viability. It would be much easier to expand an already existing right.
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@Danielle
then viability seems like the only justifiable line for restriction.
More importantly, likely to be codified into law with overwhelming bipartisan support.
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Support Biden's private business, enlist now!
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@Danielle
throw around words like "assault rifle."
Viability isn't nearly as vague as "assault". Every gun is capable of assaulting a person.
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@Danielle
Sure, but this is the kind of rhetoric that infuriates women
Well they better get over it if they want codified rights.
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@Danielle
The opposition to abortion is still too high.
There's not nearly as much opposition for a 3 week abortion as there is for a 28 week abortion.
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@Danielle
I guess I would support a broad amendment for bodily autonomy.
I'm pretty sure bipartisan support for this could happen.
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I can tell you why the police officers sat for 20 minutes — bureaucrat + checks/balances. Something that could’ve been before the tragedy even occurred. Imagine if the cop was allowed to shoot the shooter at Uvalde before the kids were killed. What did he have to do? Ask his boss.
One thing you hear pundits say all the time is that Congress can walk and chew gum at the same time. Any reasonable person knows if you spend almost all your time and energy chewing gum, it makes a seemingly simple task like walking or defending the capitol next to impossible.
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@ILikePie5
Those idiots who entered made stupid decision even upon the purposeful incitement and police allowance of entrance.
I remember on one of the videos, one of the protesters said "they are gonna lock us in here!" after a DC cop waved them through.
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@ILikePie5
They’re to charge him for an insurrection. Someone which they haven’t even charged the people that broke into the Capitol lol
4 more months of 6 years of the "walls closing in"
Americans are so lucky to have such a quick response time to threats.
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@Double_R
So in your eyes, are the J6 hearings to get Trump or is it to help develop plans to defend the capitol in the future? Because outside of partisan theatrics, it seems they are objectively doing neither.
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@coal
I agree, but most philosophers didn't agree to that. And would not. Certainly not Rousseau, any humanist or anyone who thinks humans by nature are inherently good. Or even inherently neutral. They are not.
I was referring to the few philosophers engaged in explaining why man manufactures problems.
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@RationalMadman
Purpose and meaning in life comes from overcoming obstacles and challenges. People need problems to maintain a healthy psychological state. So when people don’t have “real” problems in their life, they have a tendency to invent them, which why first world problems exist.
I just think there are wiser problems you can introduce into your life like getting married or taking on a tough job that are better for your well-being rather than facial tattoos, nose rings, and an obsession with the "orangeman"
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@Danielle
No I don't. Rights need not be narrowly defined. The constitution shouldn't have to specify a right to abortion either; it's not a legislative text..
I disagree. The SCOTUS answers to legislative amendments, not the other way around.
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@Danielle
That the government should have to prove with a preponderance of evidence why bodily autonomy must be violated. That has nowhere near been established with vaccinating children for the flu.
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@Danielle
Do you agree with the SCOTUS that legislators should explicitly define bodily autonomy rights especially regarding abortion?
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@coal
It's kind of interesting how all the philosophers explain why 1st world problems even exist. Most agree that if man reaches a state of social harmony and bliss, they will naturally manufacture some controversy simply to return to a state of stress and survival as was the evolutionary state for millions of years.
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@zedvictor4
I meant there is no vaccine for obesity.
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@SirAnonymous
And yet, if someone kills an immigrant, mentally impaired person, minor, or felon, they will be charged with murder.
Or be charged with double murder for killing a pregnant woman.
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@bmdrocks21
rights aren’t absolute
There are always exceptions.
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@Danielle
it's okay to seize control over the bodies of non-criminal suspects?
Thanks for pointing out another exception to the rule. Criminals have no autonomy.
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@Danielle
This was a narrow decision that's limited to bodily conscription for the purpose of armies.
Narrow or not, it is the law of the land and implies legal exemptions to bodily autonomy in certain cases.
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@coal
Additionally, people are getting exhausted with the constant gaslighting from the political left.
It's becoming a matter of sanity to simply tune out from whatever narrative is being sold as a bill of goods.
Turns out in a recession combined with stagflation that people don't need to manufacture 1st world problems by watching political theater on CNN anymore.
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@Danielle
I mentioned in another thread how government paying women to become baby makers opens up a whole other can of moral questions and concerns.
Like the WIC program?
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