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@3RU7AL
And Tim Pool, who is no Trump lover lol!.
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@ILikePie5
Without enabling the other side to be shown, you just have propaganda.
To be fair. Pelosi probably calculated a media muzzle on the partisanship of the committee before Musk blew Twitter up.
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@Double_R
20 pages into the J6 thread and here one of you finally admits the point I was making the entire time.
That the Orangemanbad cult thinks the Orangeman is a narcissist? We have known that for 6 years. MSM made sure of it.
Still not a crime, and in a Democracy, people can vote for Unstable Narcissists if they know it means 2 dollar gasoline.
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@ILikePie5
The fact that Pelosi as the Speaker denied Jordan and Banks from the committee sets a bad precedent.
It's dumbass partisans that let that slide why we will have a massive political overcorrection to the right Nov 2022. That's nothing I wanted.
People suffer when fringe radicals on either side rule the roost.
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@ILikePie5
Have you watched the insurrection in Sri Lanka? That's what a real 🌈🌈🌈threat to democracy looks like! 🌈🌈🌈
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@ILikePie5
a political witch-hunt.
Orangemanbad is fast becoming a forgotten 1st world problem as America descends into double digit inflation and a recession.
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@Danielle
The most incredible thing to me is that literally Trump's entire defense rests on him being a narcissistic psychopath
Probably because the J6 findings only proved that instead of criminal conduct.
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@Danielle
Again, no Republicans will do it.
Do what, author a bipartisan bill instead of a partisan bill?
Why do you think Schumer felt the need to say he wouldn't compromise on the bill even though that ensured it would not pass?
What leadership in either party do you think will step up and do this? Author a bi-partisan bill instead of the usual far-extreme wing BULLSHIT.
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@Danielle
"Make no mistake, it is not Roe v. Wade codification," he said of the Women's Health Protection Act. "It is an expansion. It wipes 500 state laws off the books, it expands abortion, and with that, that's not where we are today. We should not be dividing this country further than we're already divided, and it's really the politics of Congress that's dividing the country."
-Manchin
Asked last week why he is not considering the GOP senators' proposal, Schumer told reporters Democrats "are not looking to compromise on something as vital as this."
What the left needs is strong leadership that can tell the fringe left of their party to fuck off so they can pass a bi-partisan bill. Americans need a bi-partisan bill. not the usual fringe BS. If they don't make sensible legislation, it's proof they simply want a wedge issue instead of a solution with bi-partisan support.
Something like this needs to be co-authored by both parties. What leadership in either party do you think will step up and do this?
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@Danielle
and it has nothing to do with liberals.
Oh really? When was the 1st time the left drafted an abortion bill? What makes you think they won't do it when they lose the majority and can't leverage it as a wedge issue anymore?
I agree only the left will be able to present this legislation. What would you do to convince them to do it?
Who do you think is strong enough on the left to form a bi-partisan coalition?
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@Danielle
The only real obstacle is convincing the left to let go of a profitable wedge issue.
How would you convince them?
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@Danielle
Because nearly half of the right support it and nearly all on the left support it.
The only real obstacle is convincing the left to let go of a profitable wedge issue.
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@Double_R
I know that’s all you have to say, because this thread is about your opinion as an American which you cannot give because it’s not defensible, so you instead go down the legal technicality route. I guess if I insisted on holding onto such an indefensible position I’d do the same.
Too bad the 6 year clock is running out of time to close the walls on Trumpy.
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Democrats have learned nothing after Youngkin’s win in Virginia and it will cost them dearly in November
I wonder if the DNC is secretly funding the DeSantis campaign like they did with other GOP that won elections. Wouldn't put it past their woke stupidity.
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@bmdrocks21
Outside of two good books critiquing authoritarianism, he has little to be praised for by conservatives.
Agree. It's just that he is taken more seriously by fellow leftists when he exposes authoritarian leftist ideologies through satire.
Seriously as in conflating satire for a mission statement.
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@zedvictor4
I did vote to remain in Europe, simply because coming out seemed an unnecessary faff.
Who coulda thought in 1940 that all Germany had to send over was the promise of Euro dollars instead of planes to conquer the UK?
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@SkepticalOne
A right to bodily autonomy would be pointless is it were codified that a woman has unconditional ownership of her fetus.
That would mean the state could never have ownership of the fetus under any circumstance and any law attempting to do so would be struck down. Whether it was abortion, food, drugs, or vaccines or anything else pertaining to a woman's fetus.
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@ILikePie5
You see the new Hunter Biden stuff?
It's really old more of the same news for those that haven't been gaslit by a covering media for the past 6 years.
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@SkepticalOne
Codifying the ownership of the fetus is pointless.
It's the only way to legally define a fetus as your body as opposed to a separate body that is viable outside the womb and did not consent to imprisonment in a womb past the point of viability.
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@ILikePie5
Prolly not going to matter much TBH. Inflation's gonna be around for another year and nobody wants to touch a Democrat or a RINO with a 10 foot pole while that's going on.
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@thett3
Yup. Losing the traditional 1st world problem political agendas opens up the field for real candidates to tackle the current real problems.
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@thett3
which I have resigned myself to assuming is happening.
I'll take that bet.
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@RationalMadman
gaslight very wrong?
Rewriting history is gaslighting. I am sorry but that is the definition of gaslighting. Especially when you are doing it to people who have a memory of what actually happened.
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@RationalMadman
It was probably an idea for them to gramatically correct a quote that did have an error in limiting to 'or'.
They were not grammatically correcting a quote. They were correcting the record of a President in an official WH transcript. The people demand and deserve truth. Not political gaslighting of reality into some fake reality.
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@RationalMadman
Democrats had 50 years to fix stuff. It's time for a new breeze.
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@ILikePie5
Just wait till the DemonRats discover who is actually running in 2024 ;)
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@3RU7AL
a POTENTIAL
Nope. I did the research on the actual violations of his parole. It's not in your wiki source though.
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@3RU7AL
Look up the May 29th, 2020 riots in front of the White House. In the blocks before the White House, violent rioters, looted and burned everything in sight and headed for the White House gates. The only thing that made this different from January 6th is that unlike Nancy Pelosi, Donald Trump was prepared and had massive amounts of security standing by.
The White House had to use a massive amount of force that night to stop the rioters who were trying to come over the fence. 67 Secret Service officers were wounded and sent to the hospital and the President had to be removed to a secure bunker for safety.
There were times at night when America's capital city descended into chaos, with running battles between rioters and police through the streets.
This was much more violent than January 6th; and if anything should qualify as an "insurrection" seizing the White House would be it. Yet, no investigation, no panel, no commission, no one thrown in jail without bail.
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@3RU7AL
A person being held on parole violations is not unfair.
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@coal
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@RationalMadman
Even if you personally like Biden, the altering of official transcripts isn't something you want out of an Orwellian government.
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@3RU7AL
no, no it does not
Okay well then we disagree on English because it clearly states it.
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@3RU7AL
citation please
Can you not read your own wiki source? It says it clearly he was held on parole violations.
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@3RU7AL
this is only one example of how someone can be held on charges that the state cannot provide evidence for
Lol, no it is Not. This is actually one example of a person being held on parole violations. Nobody on the Jan6 list of detainees were held on parole violations. The 2 cases are nothing alike.
the exact same tactics are being used on the j6 participants
Nope.
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@3RU7AL
what facts are you specifically referring to?
I am referring to your narrative that a person being held on parole violations was somehow unfair.
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@3RU7AL
if you think there's some "other side" to the facts
Unlike you , I don't pretend there is no other side to the narrative.
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@3RU7AL
this sounds a lot like, "no reason"
This sounds a lot like "I am not interested in the other side of the story."
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@3RU7AL
why was he released after 700 days WITHOUT making a "plea-deal" and WITHOUT a trial ?
Why does anyone, (not just your cherry picked confirmation biased stooge) who is held on probation violations get released? Have you done more than zero research on the other side of this story? Or are you committed to a broken confirmation bias narrative with no need at all to examine the other side? I used to believe you could see all sides of a story.
The fact that he wasn't ready for the outside world proves the parole board likely released him prematurely.
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@ILikePie5
94% of young Democrats hate Biden lol!
It appears as if they have not been distracted enough by the J6 show.
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@3RU7AL
this never happened
So what. That trivial fact does nothing to support your confirmation biased position. There is no need for an arrest warrant when the person is in jail. He was objectively being held for parole violations. This is straight out of your biased wiki article.
Every choice we make has consequences. If you choose to violate parole or steal a bakery truck, you shouldn't expect leniency.
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@3RU7AL
he was not convicted for "parole violation"
You don't get convicted for that. You get sentenced. If a parole officer reasonably believes a parolee has violated a condition of their release, the Board of Parole can issue an arrest warrant. The individual will be held without bail while the warrant is in effect, pending an outcome of the violation. You clearly have not done any due diligence on the other side of this story.
he was not being held for "parole violation"
Your confirmation biased Wikisource says the exact opposite.
You clearly did zero research on the other side of this story. Playing Devil's advocate actually helps you grow wiser.
What is so sad is that there are a lot of people with confirmation bias that have no clue how the parole system works, and do not understand why people MUST be held accountable for choosing to VIOLATE their parole in a functioning society.
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@3RU7AL
In fact he was charged and CONVICTED in 2009 for stealing a bakery truck and he then violated parole. A crime (grand larceny) that had more than a 2 year sentence.
Your thesis is extremely misleading. If you violate the terms of your parole, any judge can order you to an extended stay in prison. Violating a parole has consequences. You clearly did zero research on the other side of this story.
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@3RU7AL
is misleading
Your thesis is misleading. If you are in prison and you punch an inmate in the nose, you don't get to complain about the consequences. Including an extended stay.
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@3RU7AL
MY GODDAMNED PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
So what? I was arrested too like you for something I did not do. Turns out it was a case of mistaken identity. Everyone has to deal with outlier shit in their life at one point or another. That does NOT mean we presume guilt over innocence in our hearings and courts.
Do you know why my life story didn't end up with a cord around my neck? Because I didn't make the same choices these DINDUS did to make a bad problem much, much worse. Again, would you like to hear the story from the other side? Or is this just your confirmation bias theatre time like the J6 committee?
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@3RU7AL
are you seriously saying that "oh, he deserved it" ?
I am seriously saying a DINDU article from a biased source like Wikipedia doesn't prove anything but your confirmation bias.
Would you like to know the real story from the other side of the narrative, or is this just your theatre time?
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@3RU7AL
it's not a "parole violation" unless he is CONVICTED
You clearly only read one side of that story, You are doing the same thing DoubleR is doing in this thread, pretending that there is only one side to a story.
Please stop with the confirmation bias. You literally googled for something that supported your bias.
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@ILikePie5
He’s not going to jail. The committee will either be dissolved or do it a 180 and kick out all the Democrats. See how they like their own medicine
The J6 committee is functionally the same as a grieving DINDU mother telling the DA what to do. It's pure unadulterated theatre.
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