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@thett3
People are 100% justified in wanting to see long term data before taking the shot. I think the vaccine is a very good thing, especially for people at risk for covid, but the President of the United States forcing ALL private citizens to get a brand new vaccine or lose their jobs is so incredibly over the line
Because people don't see the value of managing individual risks. They assume a 99.7% survival rate is for ALL people individually regardless of individual risk factors such as age and obesity when it is clearly not the case. Especially when you evaluate the risks of healthy weighted children under 12.
Covid is actually very discriminating as to the people it kills. We just aren't allowed for political reasons to use the "D" word in the woketopia of America.
Being obese is a disability.
Being old is a disability.
We just can't be allowed to say it publicly.
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@Double_R
The only path this conversation goes down is to excuse our history and blame all of our inequalities in on Mother Nature.
We have an existing policy for this. The ADA.
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that in that study, having natural immunity
Which lockdowns are designed to suppress. There is no magic bullet or free lunch here. There's always a tradeoff for living a hyper sterile life.
What's far more dangerous than Covid is what we are doing to our children's immune systems during their developmental growth with the misguided lockdowns of children that result in permanent disability with compromised and atrophied immune systems.
We've known for a while that people who grow up on farms are less likely to have ailments related to the immune system than people who grow up in cities. Those include asthma, allergies, inflammatory bowel disease and multiple sclerosis.
Exposure to germs as a kid seems to be helpful, while living in an environment that's squeaky clean seems to pose risks for some illnesses. Still, nobody knew precisely why. But now some scientists say they think they've figured out the details of the "hygiene hypothesis."
They found that microbes in the gut keep a rare part of the immune system reined in. No microbes, and the immune cells go crazy in the lungs and intestines, increasing the risk of asthma and colitis. Add in the microbes, and cells in question, invariant natural killer T cells, retreat.
The discovery was one of those lovely "aha" moments in science. Or as says Richard Blumberg, the chief of gastroenterology at Brigham and Woman's Hospital in Boston, and co-author of the study says: "We made the serendipitous observation that these cells were dramatically enriched in the lung and colon in mice that lacked any microbes."
These are mice raised in totally germ-free environments in the lab. What really piqued the scientists' interest was that the immune response in the super-clean mouse innards looked very similar to what happens in diseases like asthma.
But they were still missing the connection with exposure to bacteria in early childhood. So Blumberg and his colleagues took pregnant germ-free mice and exposed them to microbes the day before they gave birth. The baby mice had fewer iNKT cells in their guts, even after they grew up.
The researchers also found that genetically altered mice without the iNKT cells don't get colitis, even if they were raised in a germ-free environment.
It's unclear which microbes help regulate the immune cells, according to Dennis Kasper, director of the Channing Laboratory at Brigham and Women's, and a co-author of the study, which was published online in Science. Figuring that out is very important, he says. "You can't just put any piece of dirt into a baby and direct the control of the immune system," he says.
He thinks there are a very few special molecules in the 500 to 1,000 species in the intestine that control the immune cells, but it's going to take a lot more work to figure that out.
Of course, this study was done in mice, but it gets at some fundamental questions that would be impossible ask in humans. No germ-free cages for us.
And their findings square with 20 years of epidemiological research showing that exposure to microbes and parasites in childhood reduces the risk of autoimmune disease.
There's evidence that children who are given antibiotics early in life are more likely to have immune-based problems like asthma and food allergies. There's even some evidence that women might have more autoimmune diseases than men because they're kept cleaner than boys as children.
These disorders are more common in developed countries, and in people who move from the developing world into tidier lands.
So parents may someday emulate the germy mouse world, rather than a scrubbed and sterile environment, to ensure the health of their offspring.
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@Wylted
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There's also a study with the Delta variant out of Israel.
"The analysis indicated that people who had never had the infection and received a vaccine in January or February of 2021 were up to 13 times more likely to contract the virus than people who had already had the infection."
So yeah, living in a bubble and attempting to be germ free has some drawbacks.
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Besides, nobody is going to give a shit about the virus once the Biden inflation hits and people learn what long lines and product shortages mean.
You'll be wishing for a time when all you had to care about was a virus.
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Tuskegee survivors disagree.
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@thett3
What we consider to be "race" is socially constructed, but traits aren't evenly distributed among each group. This is a problem that should only exist for policymakers...normal people can just treat everyone they meet as individuals. There's enough variation that you can easily just do that, which is what all normal people do
I'm just pointing out that even in the circumstances like the bearing strait split 13,000 years ago that any possible meaningful differences are quickly nullified by natural selection as people from all over mix.
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@thett3
And even if the bearing straight divide was 13,000 years ago, it takes way longer for natural selection to make meaningful changes.
Natural selection eliminated most of the Native Americans anyway.
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@thett3
Fair enough, so humor me a bit. An average Han Chinese person and a Zulu person look very different. The null hypothesis should obviously be that adaption didn't stop with differences in phenotype, and would extend to physical and cognitive abilities as well. Do you believe this, and if not why not?
There's so much dna mixing that it's really hard even to find a pure race today. Almost everyone in the modern world is a mutt to varying degrees.
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Milley isn't standing against anyone.
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What questions would you ask General Milley at the upcoming Senate inquiry?
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There's more than one whistle blower on the Afghan fuckup.
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The fucking ad-hom trolls on this site are ridiculous. It's like twitter for fucktards.
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@Double_R
I'm saying Fred wasn't particularly good at building wealth.
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@dustryder
That's fine, but how does this translate to polling? Because this poll https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/trackers/donald-trump-honest indicates that 33%~ of registered voters think that Trump was honest and trustworthy.
What about "Mentally Sharp" ?
This seems to be specific to the 43 percenters only.
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@FLRW
Alright, Thanks, at least it explains the polling.
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@FLRW
Yes, I think Biden is mentally sharp. His compassion shows this.
So mental function is a product of emotion for the 43 percenters? Help me out here.
Can you show me a real life example of a compassionate person that is not considered "Mentally Sharp?"
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@dustryder
So why do so many people interpret the things Biden says as mentally sharp, or is this a matter of faith?
I don't remember any Trump supporter saying he was particularly sharp or witty with his speech as most of the Trump supporters I knew personally couldn't stand the man and questioned his abilities, but absolutely supported the things he did.
Not a single one of them would say with a straight face that Trump was "mentally sharp"
With Biden, every one of the 43% that approves of Biden also says he is mentally sharp...that's what's confusing to me.
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@949havoc
That's all speculation. We need one of our resident Dart expert 43 percenters to explain this.
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@FLRW
What's the big lie that makes only 43% of Americans consider Biden Mentally Sharp?
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@Double_R
@drlebronski
Are you one of the current 43 percenters?
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@thett3
@ILikePie5
Known race hustler chanted off the stage in Texas by Hispanic voices amid the big Texas lie.
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@FLRW
That was after the big lie of Jan 6 being an actual objective threat to DC Democracy.
Mentally Sharp Biden still continues to lie to this day about the amount of DC officers killed above the number zero.
Congress went on with business as usual without a single hiccup.
Do you think Biden is Mentally Sharp as well?
Are you one of the 43 percenters?
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@Mesmer
After George H.W. Bush died, we heard a lot about how he modeled the idea of “noblesse oblige.” It’s a French term that translates as “nobility obligates.” In other words, anyone born into the upper economic class should feel a sense of obligation toward his or her fellow humans, and particularly to those less fortunate to aid them in some way.
There are obvious positives to this concept. At least in theory, it motivates generosity and philanthropy. It hints at the idea that socioeconomic positions are not exclusively or necessarily a matter of hard work. It even acknowledges some measure of luck or privilege. The concept extends beyond wealth into the concentric circles of education. Princeton University’s unofficial motto, for instance, is “In the nation’s service.” Princeton graduates are urged to use their status, earning potential, and intellectual knowledge on behalf of others.
But there are problems with this ethos of “noblesse oblige,” and over time those problems eroded the concept. “Noblesse oblige” can lead to assumptions of superiority, the idea that the upper class has gifts to offer the rest of the world, and those poor, marginalized underprivileged people are grateful recipients of this beneficence. It’s a generosity that perpetuates a hierarchy. It keeps the privileged behind a wall of wealth, education and power. It also keeps the “noblesse” out of touch with the reality of life outside that wall, out of touch with economic hardship, out of touch with hard work that doesn’t lead to economic success, out of touch with human suffering and a broader array of human diversity.
The concept of “noblesse oblige” has fallen out of favor in recent years as social scientists have demonstrated the systems that perpetuate wealth gaps and education gaps and income inequality among different demographic groups. Americans have never been too comfortable with the idea of nobility anyway. We want to believe in equal opportunity. We want to believe in meritocracy. We want to believe that anyone who works hard will be rewarded, and anyone with wealth earned it and deserves to keep it.
And yet America continues to see a stubbornly fixed upper class, as two lengthy and compelling articles in last year’s TIME and Atlantic magazines demonstrated. In other words, we have ended up with the “noblesse” without the “oblige.” In fact, what we might have instead is something along the lines of “noblesse shame” or “noblesse cynicism.”
Multiple recent studies have demonstrated the ways in which affluent people have cut themselves off from other people and the ways they downplay the extent of their wealth. Other studies have demonstrated the ways that even the people with the highest incomes give less, as a percentage of their income, than those in the lowest economic bracket.
I wonder whether the truth to be extracted from this old idea is simply the word “oblige.” That all human beings are, in fact, obliged to one another. All interconnected. All obligated to give not out of a sense of superiority, but out of a sense of community and reciprocity.
TIME ran a story at the end of 2018 in which they identified five heroes of the year. The list included the men who rescued the boys who were stuck in an underground cave in Thailand. The man who disarmed a shooter at a Waffle House. The hospital chaplain who drove through fire to save patients. These weren’t stories about people who had been trained in nobility, but rather people who had some inherent sense of community, some ethos of mutual giving and receiving, something that provoked them to care for others as much as themselves.
I’m grateful that the era of noblesse oblige is over. I hope it makes way for a greater questioning of income disparities and wage gaps and less satisfaction with the economic status quo. But, also, I hope we can resurrect the idea of universal obligation to one another regardless or race, gender or socioeconomic status.
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@949havoc
The 1 percenters couldn't pay for the current budget if they were taxed at 100%
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@949havoc
How do you explain the reason for 43% of Americans not being able to determine objective signs of mental decay and dysfunction?
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@sadolite
When you say pay a fair share, does that include everyone or just a select few.
And just how are Politicians supposed to get paid their fair share if they can't issue exemptions for money?
Those politicians are fucking oppressed.
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@bmdrocks21
America is the root cause. Kamala will fix that.
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Best way to deter Migrants is to turn the entire country into DC.
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@Dr.Franklin
All welfare ends up being corporate welfare.
Just like all corporation taxes are paid by the consumers.
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@Double_R
Interestingly, Fred Trump got the equivalent of millions of dollars as a young man from Klondike gold rush inheritance but wasn't able to turn it into a billion dollars like his son did.
According to the Wiki page, When he died at the long lived age of 88 he only managed to build 250 million dollars worth of wealth.
Even Obama did better.
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To put it in Context, 150 Officers were injured in the Lafayette square riots, and none of them committed suicide.
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The guy that shot Babbitt is alive and well, no PTSD there.
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@Double_R
Does Orangeman bad cause depression?
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@ethang5
I'm a bit suspicious of all the abnormal DC cop suicides after Jan 6. Sounds like Hillary and Co. doing more wetwork covering shit up.
the standard suicide rate for a DC cop is .024% or 2 per 10,000 cops.
I'm pretty sure there weren't anywhere near 20,000 DC cops in the Capitol on Jan 6.
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@949havoc
Nope. I avoid youtube.
Ill summarize it.
It was a Veteran explaining to George W. the Harvard man, why he isn't a man of honor.
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@949havoc
It's all a scam. Harvard is the stain of the disinterested aloof elite DC cabal that cares about consolidated power from both parties over the common man.
Did you watch the clip?
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@cristo71
Here is a clip of an average everyday person describing the capabilities and character of a "Harvard man"
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@FLRW
My father and Obama's father didn't give us $400 million.
Obama is worth 400 million off the backs of lobbyists and taxpayers. It's not just a money problem at play in DC.
I'm also surprised you support Bush W as an institutional intellectual. That says volumes about the institution.
Also, no offense, but you seem to have a hammer and nail approach on this site as well, further anecdotal evidence of the renaissance man scarcity in dogmatic institutions of cloistered learning.
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@FLRW
Does Trump have a Harvard COOP card? I'll bet not. I'm suprised Trump's father didn't serve time in prison like Lori Loughlin.
Obama and Bush were from Harvard. Proof that being smart at one thing doesn't make you qualified to do another thing.
It's not just a Harvard thing though. Dogmatic institutions typically create specialist men that often use a hammer and nail approach to solving every problem because they lack the real world exposure to think like a renaissance man.
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In a meritocracy, someone is going to slack more than others.
But yah, you can choose not to participate and just live off of govt cheese if you don't want to compete or can't.
A petting zoo full of incompetent sheep singing the praises of mediocrity.
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Consistent in its failure to report events objectively, the mainstream media has long since lost all credibility. It has become the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party and will not report anything that might adversely affect that party’s chances at maintaining power.
Rampaging mobs are ruining our cities. They loot, burn, destroy property, attack police and anyone else who gets in their way while the elected officials, sworn to maintain law and order, fail to perform their duties.
The Democratic Party leadership must also be held accountable for these excesses, as evidenced by its failure to condemn such activities. Indeed, their vice president, Kamala Harris, has spoken out in support of them, having stated, “These demonstrations are part of an important movement and should continue, even after the election.” It’s hard to imagine that anyone in her position would say something so irresponsible.
We are facing another another ominous threat by radical leftists who want to totally transform America and take down our most cherished institutions. They aren’t happy living here in the country with the greatest system of government ever devised, and still the place where many of the world’s people would choose to live, given the opportunity.
But those who hate the way our country is structured are determined to change it so they’re proposing some wonderful things: The Green New Deal, open borders, free health care and voting rights for illegals, defunding the police, defunding and vilifying border patrol and revamping the criminal justice system. Those are just for starters. There are many more horrendous ideas in the pipeline.
Prominent Democrats have already endorsed these terrible ideas, even though the great majority of Americans don’t want any of them. So who are those politicians supposed to be representing? It certainly isn’t their constituents. What happened to representative government?
I fear for the future of our republic.
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@ILikePie5
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@Double_R
I know Trump supporters tend to suffer from extreme insecurities, especially when it comes to their manhood, but don’t project your shit on me bro. I couldn’t care less.
Simp on bro. No judgement zone here.
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@FLRW
Don't forget that Trump is the first USA president to have 5 kids with 3 different women. He is a true Christian.
Also, not Trump's fault that women and Democrats are biologically engineered to be leeches and gold diggers.
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@FLRW
He is also the 1st President to be exonerated twice after 2 sham impeachments.
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