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@Death23
I just now realized you cannot spell Democracy without DC.
Coincidence? I think not.
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on the one hand, we have all of mainstream media, including the most credible sources of news and even conservative sources like Fox news. we have all of the courts in the country, including the supreme court who is packed with trump appointees. we have the bulk of congress, and all fifty states including republican states.
Thank the lord Jesus America's democracy is dictated by millionaires behind media desks and vested government employees.
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@Elminster
He's probably scum, I didn't like his cautious play and reluctance to contribute.
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@Vader
just need scum to hammer and we can go on to dp2
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@Vader
I hope you are not playing cautiously because you are scum.
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@warren42
Sorry, didn't think it would piss you off.
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@warren42
sounds like a doc softclaim
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@Lunatic
Ill vote whiteflame if Drafter is confirmed replaced.
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@Elminster
I don't like whiteflames justification for not revealing his name.
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@whiteflame
What is your character?
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@Speedrace
You would know, scum
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@drafterman
I am 100% on board with the original plan as provided by you, where you are a 1x vig who has guaranteed success unless he is roleblocked.
My role implies scumteam has a visiting role...likely a roleblock going by past game setups.
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@n8nrgmi
"The MSM were sad because of all the people laughing at them."
"Conservative media then had a great time dunking on the hypocritical mainstream media for a few days before being promptly kicked off social media."
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@Elminster
Sure, since you seem to be town as I doubt your scum buddies would allow you to quit
VTL DRAFTER.
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@WaterPhoenix
some people were mad so I just started with a name claim
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@Elminster
Eh it's probably too late, but I pushed the train on speed knowing he is really good at fabricating stuff given time.
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@Elminster
I think we can catch scum (maybe speed) if he doesn't have a lengthy detailed justification
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@Lunatic
Did pie give you a lengthy in-depth justification?
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@Lunatic
I'm way too dumb to pull off an elaborate fake claim, especially not within 5 minutes considering how slow I type.
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@Elminster
I started the speed choo choo lol!
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@Elminster
Pie also was upset that I wasn't a part of the House Energy Committee since I was so knowledgeable about energy. I've never gotten such a lengthy justification from a mod before. Did we all get lengthy justifications?
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@Elminster
I'm part of the congressional coal caucus and I know a lot about coal and energy as a representative from Kentucky and also my history as a member of the TVA caucus.
Pie actually gave me a very lengthy justification.
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@whiteflame
This probably means there is a scum visiting role or there would be no point for me being in the game.
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@Elminster
I am the electrician able to see anyone who visits me whether it is scum or town. my justification is because my representative is big in the energy field.
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@Elminster
I got mixed feedback so I just char claim first
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Well at least we know elm is town at this point.
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@Lunatic
Maybe speed? I don't know, my scum reads are terrible dp1
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@Elminster
I can see why you prefer live mafia now.
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@zedvictor4
We won't change minds until we have engineered a new model.
We already have a model. It's called individual risk assessment and priority listing.
Maslow has been around for a long time.
Long before politicians convinced people they could have anything they wanted with no consequences.
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This is the new government of tolerance along with their army of intolerant supporters.
There will be no unity, no matter what was promised to you. Either conform or be ground into the earth.
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@sadolite
Well, there is no party right now that wants more State power and less DC power.
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@ILikePie5
I’m just waiting for the GOP to bring impeachment against Kamala for “inciting violence.”
I think there are already a bunch of them considered already. A lot of Joe impeachments with connections to China.
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@ILikePie5
15 dollar minimum wage. Talk about killing legislation. Fucker isn’t even in office and is playing politics to force the GOP to filibuster the bill
Hope you know how to cook at home. 15 dollars an hour plus tips is a meal most Americans can't afford.
This is what job destruction looks like, just in case the lockdown wasn't good enough for a more permanent solution to all those problematic jobs created.
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@n8nrgmi
if liberals were serious about what they're talkin about with this incitement stuff... they'd be talkin about criminal penalties against trump. i mean, id think inciting a riot is a crime isn't it? but, i think the liberals know deep down, that all this incitement stuff amounts it, is just politics... it's all political masturbation.
Which is also why he wasn't charged with bribery or extortion as an article of impeachment on the 1st impeachment. They didn't really want an examination of actual legal charges, just the hyperbolic innuendos they could pump the media with for 4 years while DC Congress did nothing to help Americans.
This is what "unity" looks like.
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@Speedrace
Hi I am Harold Rogers
VTL SPEED
since speed is never town.
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@Tradesecret
Washington DC fucked up big time on this one.
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@Tradesecret
When Biden says he will govern for all Americans, he is saying he will govern for Trump supporters too. This means he should not disregard them - or ignore them or treat them like simpletons.
Nah bro. The path to unity lies in the utter obliteration of your political opposition.
Every tyrannical society knows this.
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I think Trump being impeached is a last effort ditch by Pelosi to try and destroy the man who continues to make her look like a fool.
Destruction of political rivals is the hallmark of a tyrannical society.
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@zedvictor4
Just need a more competent Hitler to finally defeat evil Marxism.
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@zedvictor4
Never hurt a flea.
Certainly didn't stop the determined Marxist authority.
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@Dr.Franklin
right, this make two fraud impeachments.
If the Senate votes to dismiss and acquit the charges, Trump will have 2 more acquittals than Nixon, and one more than Clinton.
Also, he will be the only president exonerated from House charges while not a president.
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@n8nrgmi
Senate trial will begin in 5 days. Get your popcorn ready.
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@drafterman
Explain to me why Adam Schiff is so important to this conversation.
Why is Trump the only person that could be regarded as a "failed fascist?" Are there really no other people in all of history that you know of that are also "failed fascists"
It's quite the pejorative term you created, and I would love to explore it with you in-depth.
Perhaps by identifying what a "failed fascist" is through real-life examples can we see why the media portrays Trump as a definitive fascist.
Perhaps.
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So if you try to be a fascist, but fail, you aren't a fascist?
Is Adam Schiff a "failed fascist?" why not? I just want to be clear about the people you think are and are not "failed fascists"
Assuming we are "ticking off the checkboxes for fascism" namely overturning elections and censoring free speech.
Or is Trump the only person in the entire universe that can qualify as a "failed fascist"?
Why is Trump the only person that could be regarded as a "failed fascist?" Are there really no other people in all of history that you know of that are also "failed fascists"
It's quite the pejorative term you created, and I would love to explore it with you in-depth.
So I ask again, what would make Trump a fascist.
Probably doing at the very least, the things Adam Schiff did along with a listing of a host of other RELEVANT things regarding actual fascism that wouldn't make me look like a total jackass slinging the term fascist around with the ridiculous flair of false equivalencies. All the while avoiding supporting the crony media that does so flippantly with the not so discrete objective of maintaining DC elite power.
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@drafterman
I commend your ability and attempt to derail the conversation, but this conversation is about Trump and whether he is a fascist.
By your own admission, Trump isn't a fascist because he is a failure. Whatever that means. So you answered your own question.
We're not talking about 2016, we're talking about the here and now. "But but but the DEMS!" isn't a part of this discussion. We're talking about Trump. Only Trump. And the appropriate label for his stance and his behavior.
I'm only pointing out that you can't label Trump as a fascist simply for having similar behavior and failed aspirations as other existing tyrants in DC without running into all sorts of false equivalency logic errors. You're certainly not suggesting the people who currently support censorship and have actually implemented censorship of free speech are fascists, do you? That Adam Schiff is a "failed fascist" for attempting to overturn the 2016 election? I'd like to hear your reasoning for that one.
Fascism without the dictator, without the elimination of elections, without suppression of free speech and the right to assemble, isn’t fascism.
We are talking about whether it's correct for the crony media and the supporters of crony media to label the nationalistic movement that elected Trump as a fascist movement, with Trump as a fascist leader of a fascist movement.
And it's most certainly not deflecting by acknowledging that the next 4 years of Biden will most likely look exactly like anti-nationalist Obama 2.0, which means we will be back here again, attempting to explain why the people are nominating the next incarnation of Trump 2.0 in 2024. With all the false equivalency rhetoric of fascism that the powerful elites in DC can muster along with their supporters.
What are you talking about?
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@drafterman
Do you believe Americans have the ability to choose democratic nationalism with the current political system without the tyranny of a dictator? Why not?
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