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@Danielle
What changes would you like to see happen to the election system so that any popular Orangemen can not challenge the authority of US elections?
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@SirAnonymous
Not being able to interact with another user because they are offended by your views is pretty ridiculous when they could just choose to ignore you.
That's actually not what is going on, there is a lot I don't want to get into from past behaviors but Ragnar is handling the situation responsibly.
I already told Danielle I really don't give a crap about harassment and the COC within a Mafia game because you basically give permission for people to harass you simply because it's a part of how the game is played.
It's the outside behaviors that are being dealt with.
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@HistoryBuff
so working for wages that are barely sufficient to keep them alive, they are magically going to get a high paying job and become wealthy? Even you can't believe that fairy tale.
No, but following the 3 Brookings rules regarding lifestyle choices will.
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@Lunatic
Eh, you inspired me to be a better team player
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I'm back. I had to spend most of the day helping to fix my nephew's computer when he spilled water into it.
Catching up
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@Danielle
Tariffs are considered a tax...
Tariffs are a sin tax punishing people who choose to not buy American.
Progressive taxes are a sin tax on people that choose to work too hard or produce too much.
Do you think it is the government's obligation to impose sin taxes for moral/cultural reasons?
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@Danielle
Maybe a bobby jindal or Rubio type
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@HistoryBuff
but republicans like to pretend the only options are to be ripped off by capitalists or ripped off by state control.
No, Republicans acknowledge that some people choose to be fucked up and some people are born fucked up. Opportunities give those people born fucked up a chance and also allows people that want to choose to be fucked up to choose that freely without some communist Karen telling him he can't do that.
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@HistoryBuff
Shit wages are better than no wages, but Venezuelans can still forage for food when the communists remove their opportunities for choosing a shit wage job.
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@HistoryBuff
if your options are shit wages or starving to death, you take shit wages.
No you don't. You fucking go forage for food as every animal does. You don't wait for a fucking hand out, and you don't have to work for anyone.
There are no investors in Venezuela so there are no jobs in Venezuela...
Shit wages are better than no wages, but Venezuelans can still forage for food when the communists remove their opportunities for choosing a shit wage job.
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@HistoryBuff
and if those investors pay shit wages,
Then the investor loses their investment. You seem to think wrongly that people will willingly work for shit wages.
Investors have to pay the bare minimum that the labor market demands. They don't have a choice.
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@HistoryBuff
poor people are stupid, lazy and bad.
Just the ones that make really bad life decisions and do not invest in themselves.
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@HistoryBuff
If people can't afford to buy that new product...
Every poor capable person has labor they can trade for products if there is an investor able and willing to hire them.
this is a bullshit argument.
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@SirAnonymous
I heard an interesting commentary about how people are moving to Fla and Texas. Whoever those States elect represents the long term future for the country.
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they are driven from the bottom.
Poor people don't create jobs. Investments come from the top.
The "driven from the bottom" is observable bullshit considering all the totalitarian communist countries with millions of poor unable to create a goddamn thing for themselves. See Venezuela.
funneling all the wealth
Wealth is NOT a static object. It is a variable asset created and destroyed by individual men.
The size of the pie is much more important than the proportion of the slice.
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@bmdrocks21
It's the land of meritocracy vs the land of mediocrity.
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I win with the town but I do not have a role to reveal on DP1.
Danielle did this to me on purpose.
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@HistoryBuff
but there absolutely is a need to transition away from such incredibly destructive industries.
ok
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@HistoryBuff
There is no need to lie to them.
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@HistoryBuff
I can care about the fracker and hate fracking.
Too bad Harris and Biden didn't feel the need to lie to them and make them feel good. Guess those electoral votes don't matter.
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@HistoryBuff
i have no idea what this lie you are referring to is. What were they lying about?
All they had to do is simply lie like Bill and Barry did and just say they care about the deplorable frackers.
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Kamala reminds us all what the radical left wants for America.
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@HistoryBuff
All it would take is to stop telling them that their fracking jobs dont matter. That it's ok to reject BLM for disrupting the western family.
For some reason, Obama on up decided to stop lying to them as Bill Clinton and priors did.
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@Danielle
I've never seen anything like this brainwashed, cult-like devotion to a politician. It's sociologically fascinating.
If you can ignore the messenger and focus on the message, it's pretty much this.
People know full well who Trump is, they are not brainwashed. It's just that he is the only politician in DC in any party, flawed as he is, that does not despise them for being a backwards class of people.
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@SirAnonymous
Conservatism is a dead ideology.
And you will never see another Bush, Romney, or McCain ever win a Republican primary ever again.
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@Danielle
In only because it's impossible for Danielle to Die NP1 or win the game DP1.
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@ILikePie5
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@Danielle
I agree. Would you consider the right-wing to be open-minded, tolerant and diverse?
On the whole, sure, but that's only the by-product of an ideology that retains a faint semblance of the skepticism of authority from the King George III era.
The right-wing seems to be a lot more likely to call out the radicals that poison the barrel, including the intolerant religious wing when they ask the government for prohibitive powers.
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@Danielle
They cheer him on when he does it
Yah, not all Trump supporters are happy at all about that bullshit though.
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@Danielle
People just don't often recognize it comes in all forms, or they (of course) like it when they agree with the cancellation.
Yah, there are some really hyperpartisan people in this thread that absolutely love censorship when it suits their needs for control of the flow of ideas.
The radical left has unfortunately regressed into a groupthinktank of a singular view devoid of diversity of thought.
Just like the society in Hawthorne's book.
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@3RU7AL
What do you think about the censorship of a book that warns about the regression of a society that censors and paints individuals with groupthink labels?
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@n8nrgmi
Well said.
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@Conway
At least some of the documents have been found. They're en-route.
I don't think anyone disputes there was foul play afoot to censor.
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@ILikePie5
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@ILikePie5
Lol, the “I had to remind him that he was a black person, so he can't vote for Donald Trump” thought?
Leftist whitesplaining is so damn racist lol.
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@3RU7AL
I mean, all KKK members are patriotic Christians. But it might be worth noting that not all patriotic Christians are members of the KKK.
I made fun of RM in another thread when he said Hitler was right-wing.
I then said since Lincoln was right-wing that Hitler essentially freed the slaves in America.
This is the ludicrous outcome of the religion of marking individuals with groupthink.
Ironically the book Scarlet Letter warning about a society that cancels people you don't like was censored and banned in many schools from all groups left and right seeking censorship powers.
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@3RU7AL
We live in a society gripped by a quasi-religious fervor — and obsessed with symbols and irrational fears.
Anything that is thought to have the slightest association with racism, no matter how attenuated the connection or how innocent the explanation, must be crushed and expunged.
The mere presence of a possibly offending word is deemed a threat, whether it is truly offensive or any real people have actually taken offense. We are engaged in a war with shadowy forces that we can’t truly understand but must exercise the utmost vigilance, lest they sneak up on us unawares.
Ours is an enchanted world, like that of the Old Norse who believed in land spirits who could bless or hinder travelers who didn’t pay them heed, or animists who consider everything alive and fraught with spiritual meaning, or the 16th-century English who hunted down witches based on hyper-sensitive suspicions and presumed signs.
Our society isn’t progressing, but falling back into a superstition that everyone must believe or pretend to believe for the supposed welfare of the community.
A NASCAR garage pull is shaped like a noose, so everyone immediately assumes that a racist has snuck into Bubba Wallace’s garage to send a nefarious signal to him. All people of goodwill have to unite to fight against this unseen, mysterious, malign force. When the FBI reports that, no, sometimes a garage pull is just a garage pull, and this one has been in the garage since October 2019, people still insist that it was a noose — because the will to believe is so strong and, hey, better safe than sorry.
The band the Dixie Chicks changes its name to the Chicks, even though there was nothing remotely wrong with the origin of its name. It referred not to the folk song “Dixie” that was the unofficial anthem of the Confederacy (and has its own complicated history), but to an album from the band Little Feat called “Dixie Chicken.”
The title song of that album isn’t about lynching, the KKK, or white supremacy, rather a guy meeting an enchanting girl, who, after he spends a lot of money on her, leaves him — not an unusual theme in American song.
No rational person would ever hear the name “the Dixie Chicks” and feel excluded, threatened, or automatically think of chattel slavery. But rationality has nothing to do with it.
Why must it be shelved? Because there is racist imagery of African-American children as alligator bait from more than 100 years ago that no one performing the Gator Bait chant over the last quarter of a century was aware of or could possibly have intended to invoke with their high-spirited cheer.
And on it goes, from one absurdity to the next. As long as this moral fever lasts, there will be more targets. There is no slaking the hunt for words and practices to vilify and erase — no amount of purity will ever be enough to protect the community, and the hunt itself has its deep satisfactions.
None of this has to do with police reform, which involves specific and concrete proposals that can be debated using facts and reason and might — if thoughtfully done — improve policing and the lives of our citizens. No, mere changes in police practices can’t compare to a deeper, quasi-religious project.
The woke shamans are defining and enforcing a new symbology. They insist that their spiritual sense is better attuned than anyone else’s and will try to CENSOR and excommunicate anyone who says otherwise.
Their work may seem shockingly new, but it is really a throwback to ages past — ones that no advanced society should want to revisit.
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@3RU7AL
Impressive "rush-to-disqualify".
Exactly
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@3RU7AL
Noam Chomsky Gets "Canceled" For Signing Letter Alongside HypocritesNoam Chomsky on the Harper's Letter and Cancel CultureNoam Chomsky Gets Canceled for Being Against Cancel Culture
Thanks for taking the time to list the information.
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