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@sadolite
Fox News has so much censoring of their own reporters,
Fox doesn't censor Tucker Carlson. He is probably the last "truth to power" journalist left in the media.
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@RationalMadman
First off, most of the Middle East is a Theocracy, which is most certainly Authoritative right-wing, but probably not fascist.
Brazil isn't nearly as authoritative in the restriction of personal liberty as the Middle East.
What do the authoritarian right-wing IN AMERICA censor? When does the AMERICAN right-wing step in and say I cannot say something?
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@RationalMadman
What do the authoritarian right-wing censor? When does the right-wing step in and say I cannot say something?
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@RationalMadman
The net worth of the total sum of Democratic politicians is higher than the net worth of right-wing politicians in DC. Go look it up.
Elites are rich no matter what the ideology is.
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@RationalMadman
As I said, CNN is headquartered in an Urban area on the coast where the population is > 75% left-wing. Of course, the local population view CNN's product as centrist.
The country is strongly polarized geographically. Exactly where you live largely dictates how you and people around you think. To the zipcode.
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@RationalMadman
(they tend to do it by owning and manipulating news outlets)
Msnbc, CNN, ABC, NPR, NBC, all are wholly controlled by the left-wing and headquartered in coastal cities and D.C. where the general population is anywhere from 75% to 95% left wing.
Most social media platforms, which are by far the dominant source of news over broadcast news, are absolutely controlled by the left-wing (google, youtube, twitter, Facebook)
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@RationalMadman
Ok, what do the authoritarian right-wing censor? When does the right-wing step in and say I cannot say something?
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@RationalMadman
What stuff does the right censor?
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@RationalMadman
China's capitalism has no free markets except Hong Kong.
China is fully left-wing authoritarian with all sorts of censorship laws and thought crimes.
The left is the party of censorship.
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@ethang5
@ebuc
Ebuc supports Russian witch hunts against Orangemanbad.Your support that hideous Joe Mcarthy,
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@ethang5
Anything more than that will send EBUC into a frenzy.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Like a supreme being, I can simply claim it exists.
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@Singularity
I would have recruited you, but I got no message from the mod that the day was over.
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@fauxlaw
There isn't any scientific consensus as to exactly what the ideal climate should look like, only that it definitively exists, and humans should do everything in their power to attain it at any cost.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
You also forgot option c and d and e dealing with climate temperature drops and status quo.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
should honestly embarrass you.
Stop trying to be an e-daddy.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Probably a bit of both since bad is subjective.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Since bad is subjective, sure. But we've been through a lot worse 70,000 years ago while we were still living in caves than any doomsayer scenario presented today. Humans are now de-facto the cockroach of the Earth, for better or worse. We can't even extinct our species at this point even if we tried.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Earth has come through just fine with instantaneous comet impacts and instant supervolcano co2 bursts into the atmosphere. Humans aint going anywhere anytime soon unlike the dumb dinosaurs.
Didn't humans survive the Toba eruption on a planet with ungodly gigatons of instant CO2 in the air while they were still living in caves? Referring to the 70,000 year ago event. https://www.businessinsider.com/genetic-bottleneck-almost-killed-humans-2016-3
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Since the consensus is that any temp rise is "bad" then the ideal climate temperature is present-day or cooler.
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@Trent0405
Worker-owned companies already exist. It's called collectively taking out a small business loan with multiple co-signers and assuming all risk if the business fails.
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@RationalMadman
I like Hong Kong.
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@Swagnarok
I sat through and listened to the MSM bitch and moan at the president for supporting this treatment as if all of a sudden corporate MSM actually gave a flying fuck about people.
More death reports are better news for the press.
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@RationalMadman
the poor may not even be able to afford TV, Internet.
If they did, they wouldn't be poor.
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@David
As much as Trump lies, I think these "updates" are doing significantly more harm than good.
The updates would go a lot smoother if the president stopped talking to the press. There's a time to expose the press as corporate panic mongers and a time where its more important to save lives than to expose the corrupt press.
Just do what Biden and Obama do. Read a script then walk off the stage.
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@RationalMadman
Does this mean the old DDO elites are back in charge?
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@ethang5
Would it surprise you to know MSM "Journalists" get paid $20,000+ a day to perform in front of a camera?
Those elites definitely care about the common man more than money, so you know you can trust any narrative they spin is for your own good.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I know the bible says man is dust, but national dirt is not a race.
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@fauxlaw
Perhaps you are right. The level of personal apathy toward bettering one's self has no limits, like Art.
"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
And the greatest trick the left's leaders pulled with the MSM is that they don't exist as aloof wealthy elites.
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@fauxlaw
If you were to ask people on the left if the media cares about the people more than the media cares about their paycheck, most would overwhelmingly insist the MSM "journalists" care about people and are not spinning a narrative for the sake of money.
It's an absolutely hilarious failure of critical thinking and logical reasoning.
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@fauxlaw
It's fascinating to see the extents the rabid left mob cherishes the narratives of profit-driven media while at the same time holding the belief that rich people, in general, are evil.
The mental disconnect is so amazing that you have to commend the staggering power of the corporate media to so effectively numb the mind of useful idiots in America who probably have read fewer books in their life than they have fingers. The smart always find a way to profit off of the weak, and the weak are absolutely the young idiots full of college debt and zero tools for personal agency or critical thinking. The fools and their money will always find a way to part.
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@fauxlaw
Remember, just like the MSM, pollsters are corporate-owned and motivated solely by profit, and don't give a flying fuck about the voters.
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@fauxlaw
Some questions are biased, leading to an expected answer to meet an agenda.
This is a serious understatement. You can get wildly different results depending on how the question is worded. I read an article written by a person working for a polling company, and what they would do is focus-test a question worded in many different ways and then they would cherry-pick the carefully worded question that got the results they were looking for.
Politicians have their own internal polling they never show the media that represents the voters. That's never information available for mass mob consumption.
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@Vader
There is scientifically no nation on the planet where the people living there have unique genes found in no other nation on the earth.
Using nations to describe "races" is the epitome of junk science used to promote misinformation, panic, and discord.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
China isn't a race either. Mexico isn't a race.
America isn't a race.
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@fauxlaw
Mueller confirmed the Russian Collusion was a hoax.
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@ILikePie5
Meuller's stance is that the government investigators are so fucked up that they can't draw any conclusions other than "no collusion"
Coup failed. Move on.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
If we had a Leftist in charge, we would be where Italy is now, and the media would be in a total blackout.
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@ethang5
History is revised by coastal elites. Just read a few wiki articles if you are not convinced.
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@ethang5
Trump has been tried in the FBI with Meuller.
This event is now a historical Obama Administration scandal. However, the only fall guys to date are Comey and Peter Strzok. Obama gets to skate clear.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
I heard mayors in liberal cities have reduced police presence to reduce "panic"
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@ethang5
We already know the timing of the call coincided with the recent election of Zelensky. Trump purportedly wanted to see if Zelensky was actually serious about rooting out American corruption in Ukraine, which Trump viewed Crowdstrike and Burisma as being likely offenders. He might have used the words "do us a favor" but given the timing that coincided with the regime change that Trump was most likely testing the waters on whether Zelensky was a swamp creature or not like his predecessor was.
Prior to the call, we have evidence of Trump being skeptical about the intentions of Zelensky and whether or not Zelensky was serious about reducing corruption and waste given Ukraine's long documented history of laundering American taxpayer money to D.C. politicians. He was looking for an agreement of policies on corruption, not a quid-pro-quo. The American MSM's Orangemanbad position is that Biden was innocent and there was no corruption in Burisma. It's absolutely laughable to assume Zelensky's default position was that Biden was innocent and there was no corruption in Burisma when Zelensky campaigned saying the exact opposite. Zelensky and every one of his staff said they knew nothing of a delay in the aid, and not one shred of 1st hand evidence has been procured to date. This is what Trump likely meant by "I want nothing, Do the right thing Zelensky."
Confirmation of agreement, not coercion. And even if it was coercion as the Orangemanbad tribe insists, it would be justifiable coercion had Zelensky laughably defended the ongoing corruption.
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@dustryder
"LOLLLLLLLLLLL YOU'RE WRONG. I READ UKRAINIAN SOCIAL MEDIA. I KNOW THE VIEW POINTS OF UKRAINIANS. YOU ARE WRONG".
I didn't say you were necessarily wrong, just myopic and shallow in your observations by simplifying the Ukrainian side of things when they are far more complicated than what fits the American Orangemanbad narrative. They really do not share the level of your love and enthusiasm for the Bidens in Burisma. Neither does Zelensky.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
The problem with Orangemanbad philosophy is that it ends up creating exponentially ridiculous caricatures of other people to support the narrative.
Such as Zelensky being a "frightened abused child." "deplorables" etc...
Traditionally, educators tried to train students to not view people as convenient static labels with book reports on "To Kill a Mockingbird"....but public education is total dogshit these days.
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@dustryder
given that the leaders of the EU have not quite shown the signs of moral depravity that Trump has.
What the fuck is this supposed to mean? The EU does not care at all about aiding Ukraine. Your moral compass is all fucked up from the viewpoint of a Ukrainian with your unfounded praise of the EU.
Your EU assumptions are typical pontifications of armchair fanboys, ignorant of what's actually going on over there.
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@dustryder
Zelensky to investigate the Bidens and this is a favour, explicit or not.
Also, you are assuming Zelensky had something to gain from not investigating the corruption from Burisma. Another myopic assumption.
Zelensky had plenty of reason to do it with or without Trump's help or encouragement. There may have been notable pressure to keep the corruption investigations censored by the people involved in the corruption (such as Biden). That's a far more likely possibility. That would make Trump's greenlight more politically helpful to Zelensky than Trump, considering Zelensky's political capital revolves around kicking the scum out of Burisma.
It's like saying "AOC asked Bernie for a favor" by asking Bernie to pledge free healthcare for illegal immigrants. What a laughable favor for AOC to "ask" for that kind of favor when Bernie would gladly do it without any prodding whatsoever, with or without AOC.
The whole "Zelensky was a battered abused child" fake news narrative is one of the most laughable concepts from the perspective of any Ukrainian.
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@dustryder
Your diatribe assumes Ukraine does not need or want aid from the EU.
With so many unreal assumptions, I think we can just stop here. The American lens is myopic indeed.
I actually spent a lot of time reading Ukrainian press and reading their social media. Your assumptions about Ukraine and Zelensky have very little basis in reality. The things you think are worth dying for are not the things Ukraine cares about.
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