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@HistoryBuff
Who decides how much you will pay for drugs,
I do. It's called "shopping"
what goes into the food you eat,
I do, it's called "educating yourself."
how much pollution is going into the air you breath or the water you drink?
I do, by choosing to buy products like a car that causes pollution.
The rich do.
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The only limitation on their power over you is the laws the government passes that prevents them from doing these things. If you take that power away, then corporations can do whatever they want to you and there is nothing you can do about it.
Tell that to the buggy whip manufacturers. They were rich once too and had the government bought and paid for.
People just stopped buying horses and buggies.
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@bmdrocks21
It is not unreasonable to ask voters why they would give Congress the power to Tax and then subsidize businesses.
It is not unreasonable to ask voters why they would give Congress the power to eliminate competition and opportunities by taking away right-to-work laws and passing regulations that only the rich can afford.
It is unreasonable to suggest taking that government power away would give then give rich people the power to tax and subsidize themselves.
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@HistoryBuff
lol, that is an even sillier idea. Basically you are advocating taking power away from politicians who could be bribed, and just handing that power directly to the rich people who were bribing them. You just want to cut out the middle man and put the rich directly in charge of your life. I can't imagine a worse idea.
Not at all. The rich don't have any power over me. As long as the government is the only one that can tax me, I am all for stripping that power down.
As long as people have the freedom to walk away from rich people, there's no reason to fear them.
When the rich have the power to tax me and send people with guns to my house, then I will start to worry.
I'm not advocating a transfer of power. That is a false choice you are presenting. I am advocating for a reduction of that power and giving it back to the voters instead of powerful politicians with favors to buy.
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@HistoryBuff
if billionaires have no way of giving money to politicians without going to jail, then it is alot harder to buy off politicians.
That's never going to happen. Every schoolyard kid knows how to get access to cigarettes and vapes without getting any punishment. And the government has the judicial system stacked in their favor so nobody really goes to jail.
The only way to clean up the government is to take the power away so the rich have nothing to purchase.
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@SirAnonymous
You zaradi and ragnar are the only one's remotely pretending to scumhunt. It's not much but it's something to go on.
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voting oro today is almost as bad as a vtnl cause lazy town isn't interested in actual scumhunting.
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@WaterPhoenix
then be a normal town and unvote. even if we mislynch, we can do this tomorrow and lynch Oro with better ideas of who is town in the process.
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Also WP isnt an idiot, he has no excuse either for wasting a lynch today.
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@SirAnonymous
oro - 3/6 - Speed, Supa, Singularity
Supa is an idiot so town can give him a pass.
Singularity and speed can do basic math, so the town has a good chance of catching scum between these 2.
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Whatevs, I'll just laugh at the endgame cause town can't do basic math.
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@SirAnonymous
We can kill him tomorrow on a 5/3 worse case scenario or 6/4 if they waive the nk. Today is a dumbass move.
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Scum probably knows this so if scum is smarter than town, they will surely try to get the traitor lynched BEFORE they will be forced to waste a NK action.
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@WaterPhoenix
so what? skum wastes a nk if we keep oro alive. If we kill him off today scum doesn't HAVE to waste a nk.
Town gets a free night action the very night scumteam waives the NK by wasting it on oro.
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@WaterPhoenix
Really, if town is so blatantly ignorant to not see a NK on oro by mafia gives town a free night action, then I'm just gonna sit back and let town kill itself off since I don't want to play a game where I am the most logical town player.
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@WaterPhoenix
I'll be laughing at you in the end game as well for passing up a free town night action.
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@SirAnonymous
It's a ridiculously dumb idea because if scum wastes a nk on traitor they just give town a free night action..... no reason at all for town to be voting up a wash that gives town an extra night action.
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@disgusted
What was the last war that the yanks won?
2016 war on Socialism
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@Vader
its a wash not a shift. Whtevs if town wants to waste today killing a miller type role so be it.
I'll just laugh when the endgame rolls around.
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@Speedrace
nah, but Nk gets wasted too so it's a wash.
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@Vader
If anything you should be looking at the people on those trains as scum, especially the ones on an inactive town before I replaced him.
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@Vader
Nah, theres no point in voting oro. it's exactly the same as voting miller. Bad idea.
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@Zaradi
Just skimmed. Singularity looks fishy
VTL SINGLE
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@Zaradi
Nah, turncoat isn't particularly harmful to town, let's get someone else.
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@Username
Well, we really don't know for sure what was planned or not as we can only make a best guess, but the optics really look bad for Iran if they were planning on appealing to people that believe Iran is rational and can be reasoned with outside of their Theocracy.
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@Username
That it probably was an accident?
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@Username
They probably did not intentionally mean to kill those Ukranian and Canadian civilians.
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@ILikePie5
Here is a recent example of politicians overestimating risks.
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@Username
This isn't exactly the 1st time Trump's critics accused him of underestimating the risks involved in his decisions.
In general, you expect politicians to underperform and overestimate risks simply because of political security, but that typically leads to situations where other countries with less to lose outperform us by doing the things Iran, Russia, and China are doing.
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@Username
Not necessarily. I am saying cost-benefit analysis is an acquired skill, and overstating the risks will always lead to underperformance.
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@Username
The problem is people who don't take a lot of risks are typically doing a bad job of cost-benefit, so they listen to the naysayers and rarely do anything.
Take California for example. People in charge have plenty of options on the table for fixing the problems there, but they overpredict the risks involved in implementing them, so nothing gets implemented except for the super safe solutions with little progress.
Most rich people are way way better at cost-benefit analysis than the average Joe, which is why the average Joe takes a salary instead of taking out a small business loan to pursue a dream.
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@Username
Sure, but you include some risk in that cost.
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@Username
All progress involves some risk. If it were left to the naysayers, we would still be in the stone ages.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
And I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling kids in a mystery van.
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@ILikePie5
Whatevs, I'm actually really happy with how the game turned out regardless. It was a lot of fun.
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@ILikePie5
also when it is 3 v 1 the play is to ALWAYS vtnl simply to reduce the odds.
It's basic math.
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@ILikePie5
People play this game with WAY too much wifom. Logically they should have gone with my POE list.
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I'm just sad my final read before I was killed had all 3 scum.
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@drafterman
Eh, Wifomming doesn't help town. Stick with the logical POE next time like I suggested.
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@Speedrace
Eh, I didn't think it was THAT hard to POE out the scum, but I guess drafter didn't see it.
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