Greyparrot

Correct, doom-sayers have been plaguing humankind since the discovery of the 1st wolf to cry over.

Hi stalker.

You can have a consensus of charlatans and shills for green energy.

What do you think about the hundreds of millions that take the end of the-world-prophecies of the Koran as fact?

You don't think that is a consensus of doom proselytizers?

So America first. Army should be used to defend our borders, not police the planet. Military-industrial complex is out of control.

Whenever powerful people claim to love your kids more than you do and say they are doing it "for the kids" then you know for sure they are doing it for themselves.

"For the kids" has become the classic trope of the abuse of power under the guise of "the greater good"

classic appeal to emotion over logic

Green energy is a huge industry waiting to be subsidized by frightened, clueless people.

Everything about this statement is false. The predictions of "catastrophe" if we do nothing to slow climate change are, historically, far, far less accurate than the predictions of what will happen to humanity if we spend the trillions proposed to do "something"

Historically speaking, end-of-the-world charlatans have plagued humanity since the first wolf was discovered to cry over. Obviously out of the thousands of historical examples of "the end of the world" we are still here alive, and thriving, sadly to the detriment of all other species. On the second matter, historically we have always seen that absolute power corrupts absolutely, and the very idea that it is ONLY government that can "save the world" is backed by significant historical data of governments turning into tyrannies. If having tyrannical authoritative governments is a "greater-good" perhaps we should give up on this silly notion of free agency and personal responsibility.

The real question we should be asking is what would it take to become like Sweden and get the government out of the business of education and in the business of funding charter schools where poor people can choose the best privately run school available?

Sweden is currently a capitalist nation with protections for the wealthy.The state taxed successful industries heavily, and used the proceeds to subsidize industries that were inefficient, corrupt, and failing. This meant that interest rates on capital were prohibitive, especially when you tack on double-digit inflation.
To protect workers, the state required that wages could not be cut, and also enforced a panoply of restrictions on firing, layoffs, and other means of adjusting hours. Swedish products shot up in price, and the government was forced into a series of devaluations of the krona that made purchases of imported products beyond the reach of much of the middle class.
The electorate took a dim view of all of this. The tax system was a Rube Goldberg mechanism, with a level of complexity and arbitrary favoritism that encouraged distortion of investment into whatever happened to be taxed less, rather than whatever might produce useful products. Gunnar Myrdal, hardly a conservative, famously asked in 1978 whether Swedes “had turned into a people of swindlers.”
Fortunately for its citizens, but unfortunately for those who think Sweden is still socialist, the Swedish government, more or less by universal consensus, turned sharply back toward capitalism beginning in about 1995. It deregulated the domestic industry, privatized its education and pension systems, and opened the economy to international trade and competition.

took the interventionista game to a horrid level.

He was god aweful. Worse than even Obama.

Soyboys need women like a bicycle needs a fish.

None of the Democrat men in Government power are willing to step aside for the women. Bernie and Joe don't really care about women.

cavemen actually treated women better than today's soyboys.

It's hard to implement social democracy in a republic because a republic has checks and balances against mob rule...so it's a lot harder to implement 2 poor people robbing 1 rich dude mob rule democracy.

It's the long term inevitable solution for just about everything.

Who cares? 

You could have 1000 times the amount of methane in the air and it still wouldn't be nearly as catastrophic for humans as this.

And humans pulled through just fine with just stone tools and fur clothing.

You listen way too much to end-of-the-world con artists.

I really can't stress how much of a bad play it was from you to decide to pull the "STFU scum" card at that point was. I even told you so right after you made that decision.

And I was telling you over and over how I didn't know who 2nd scum was and you weren't helping at all....

Because that was the point where I wasn't sure about Club and I wanted your feedback on speed possibly being scum...and you just shut the entire conversation down with the "stfu you are scum"

Even if you thought I was scum...for whatever reason...what possible help would town get for pulling the "stfu scum" card at that point? I'm genuinely curious why you think that was a help to town to shut down discussions.

your post #39 is where I feel we lost the game and left it up to random chance.

Disc is badass as mafia no doubt.

Disc why did you do the "STFU scum" card on me when I was going through hypotheticals with you?

Yah, I didn't think I was gonna be able to work with disc when I asked about you and his POE matrix and he basically said to me "STFU scum"

Ahh good game. I was pretty sure club was scum oh well.

I'm still disappointed in you that you wouldn't entertain the hypothetical that your poe was wrong, and instead went full tunnel with your poe.

You could have played better as town.

Disc youre so silly not to have spotted club as scum.

Actually, I find it entertaining when the moderators stalk and harass me. :)

all evolution is built on the fossils of 99.9% of all species gone extinct. Crack open a science book someday.

Welcome to the club.

It makes total sense if club is warren's scumbuddy.

That's why  I was worried that you were bussing Warren until you failed to do a victory dance. Now the game is certainly over.

Passive my asshole. I called Warren out as scummy way before you did.

I don't really care. Club screwed himself over with his behavior today.

Since DD isn't doing a victory lap, then it's safe to say DD is town and club is last scum for claiming warren as not mafia and then disappearing.

Yep...i'm still town vanilla...this should be a quick town win

Just get this over with. I am 90% sure it's warren/club

it's clearly club/warren

Club posted "warren aint mafia" and then disappeared.

It's still ok if you vtnl...pretty sure town knows by now who the scum is.

I vtl warren 

warren is 3/4

I'm feeling pretty confident warren is scum otherwise club wouldn't have jumped so early to the defense of warren with no explanation.

If warren was town mafia team would have already lynched him for a quick game over.

I'm just saying I seriously doubt club is going to bus warren, since he is an inexperienced player.

Make a decision...lynch or vtnl.

Unless CC hammers, this day is going to end up as a vtnl.