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@Ramshutu
Npc triggered lol.
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@Ramshutu
Lol you're such a partisan NPC.
a Fox News bullshit talking point
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The idea that this is a party affiliation argument is patently absurd. This is very much a Democrat and Republican battle.
Whatever makes you happy I guess.
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@Ramshutu
Money for Trumps border wall has not been appropriated, thats literally the whole point of this shut down. If the Democrats were trying to remove the $25bn already appropriated for the wall - that would be defunding.
1.6 billion already appropriated, some of it was used to replace sections near Calexico.
Again, the Republicans lost the house by a wide margin. They were defending a total of 9 seats in the senate and wasnt able to pick up any “blue wall” that narrowly handed him victory.The idea that you feel that Democrats must pick up all 9 republican senate seats in order to claim a moral high ground, and ignore that Republicans got their a** kicked around the nation whilst campaigning on immigration, is ridiculous bullsh*t.
Don't know why you want to inject partisan party names when talking about policies. I deliberately omitted Republican and Democrat labels, yet that's the card you pull.
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@Ramshutu
Actually, again wrong. As a commie Marxist Canadian (though all of those are actually untrue), I shouldn’t have to explain that only a third of the senate is up at a time, and it’s clear by the popular vote indicated by the house election clearly indicates that the population broadly voted against the issues raised.
And if your assertion was true then the majority of the 33 Senate elections should have gone for Senators that would be against the wall, regardless of the letter next to the name.
As Trump made immigration and the wall was part of the pitch for the 2016 and 2018 elections, the fact that the Republicans didn’t win the house, and could have won 60 seats in the senate, it’s clear that republicans and the American people didn’t vote for the people who would fund the wall.When you pitch an idea to the people, and you get rubbed out as a result - kinda shows the idea sucksz
Again, the letter by a Senator's name does not determine whether or not they want to defund the wall. There are people in both parties that both want and do not want a wall.
You can’t defund something that isn’t funded
Next?
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@Ramshutu
Doesn't matter. The people still voted the wrong people into the Senate if they really wanted to defund the wall. We wouldn't even be having this discussion, and America would probably have Pence as president right now if the people voted a few months ago to mirror the current polls.
So strange how American democracy works.
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@Ramshutu
That's a really good question. Probably the answer lies with the fact that the people who supposedly don't want to spend 5 billion on a wall foolishly voted the wrong Senators into power in the 2018 elections.
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@Ramshutu
How would you know what is relevant as a Canadian Marxist? You don't understand that the government shutdown could be over in a day all with the authority of Congress. You don't even understand how 2/3 voting works in the American Congress.
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@Ramshutu
Not a deflection. Marxists like you don't understand that the power lies solely in the Congress. They have the power to override any president. The president can never override Congress. The Congress always has the final say in what legislation gets passed. Congress can even vote to strip every Executive power through constitutional amendments. They can even abolish the presidency altogether if they see fit.
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@Ramshutu
Did Marx and Engels tell you to say that?
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@FaustianJustice
That's fine. Keep yelling at the sky instead of in a voting booth.
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@3RU7AL
Did you even read your own link? Posters that read the 1st paragraph of a link, assume it supports their worldview, and then casually dismiss the rest of their link irk me with their cavalier intellectual laziness.
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@Castin
Heaven forbid a backwards culture was mocked by western civilization....like that never happens...
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@Alec
And which Democratic party? Because that party is severely split between the Crony Capitalists and the radical Democratic socialists.
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@Alec
Which GOP? The Neocons or the Classic liberal Republicans? (freedom from government) cause the GOP is severely fractured between those groups.
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@coal
What are your thoughts on the recent fake news incident with buzzfeed over the Cohen felony allegations?
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@Nd24007
Why do we even have a non-essential government?
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@Ramshutu
You don't have to check under the beds or closets for Marxists. You can find them at SJW protests near the Marxist universities, in front of the TV watching CNN, fleeing failed marxist nations like Venezuela, or of course in Canada.
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@Ramshutu
Go away Canadian commie. Too bad Hitler didn't rid the world of your Marxist disease.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Not to mention Importing Marxists from failed nations like Guatemala and Honduras helps speed the proletariat revolution.
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@Polytheist-Witch
It's really weird when the Mexican Drug Cartels and Pelosi have the same exact agenda.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
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@3RU7AL
Whatever. Assume you are right and assume you hate Trump. Would you be willing to spend 5 billion out of a budget of trillions to ensure a permanent removal of Trump in 2020?
I mean after all, if walls don't work and most Americans hate walls, then you should give Trump the rope to hang himself with, especially when it's only 5 billion.
That's a drop in the bucket compared to the Trillions the Republicans spent on the failed Obamacare to ensure that almost all of Obama's legacy was erased.
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@3RU7AL
I want the wall to protect innocent children from irresponsible parents throwing their children's lives away.
Do you support the human trafficking of minors who can't refuse to cross a desert where there is no wall?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
That's really not true now though. Ankle bracelets are doing alot to lower the ~90% rate of Refugees skipping out on their court date. Plus Trump has given recent arrivals priority for Refugee court cases so that they can be deported quickly before they can do any social damage.
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All these dead illegal aliens are also nowhere near any wall.
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This particular Coyote operates nowhere near any walls.
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@3RU7AL
Why don't you ask a Coyote where he trafficks his young girls?
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@3RU7AL
Jim Acosta already debunked your urban myth that walls do not work.
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@3RU7AL
Increased patrols and drones and cameras will stop more immigrants than a wall.
So what?
If the wall stops 500 potential killers it's still worth it.
You don't sound very convincing that you are serious about this problem, neither does Pelosi.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Drugs are cheaper than healthcare of course.
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@3RU7AL
Ask any of the people who lost loved ones to illegal invaders or terrorists if 500 is okay and acceptable.
We had enough of this postmodernist crap with the "new normal" under Obama.
Enough. Build Wall. Maga.
You want open borders like we had 100 years ago? Repeal welfare then like the country operated 100 years ago.
The wall is the price of a welfare state. Deal with it.
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@ResurgetExFavilla
I wasn't sure this was a 1st Amendment violation until you brought that up. SCOTUS will never allow enforced NewsSpeak.
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@3RU7AL
Lol. Good thing we have as many records of illegals crossing the desert as we do in Airports. oh wait...
Of course of the Millions of illegals many sleeping on the ground or in tents in California...half of those came by LAX of course. Huh.
In any case whether it's 500,000 or 500. Build the wall. Maga.
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@FaustianJustice
Good. Then let Trump build his wall and let Demorats blame him so he can be roundly defeated in 2020 for building it. 5 billion tax payer dollars is surely worth getting rid of Trump....
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@Outplayz
Do you think declaring "walls don't work" because you hate walls is Cognitive Dissonance?
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@Outplayz
What's really weird is how I can see "White Privilege" and "Toxic Masculinity" as clear Newspeak for labeling White Males as DoublePlusUngood.
If you read 1984 you know what that means.
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@Outplayz
What are your thoughts on Toxic Masculinity?
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@Outplayz
People like you will never swallow Orwellian Newspeak.
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@3RU7AL
They made a movie about that right? Clockwork Orange?
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@3RU7AL
How about giving them 20 years of memories of living in a stable 2 parent family surrounded by people that love them and push them to better themselves.
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@Castin
definitely a gay time traveling ILLEGAL alien who feeds on the souls of Republicans.
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@DBlaze
The guy is an old, mentally deranged person from Europe. It's really best to ignore him. Not really sure why he enjoys posting here though, only his doctor would know. Guess socialized medicine is not foolproof in Europe.
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@Swagnarok
HAHA
the fact that so much business is happening in California has driven up the cost of living for the average citizen,
This is such a ridiculous statement. It sounds like California is suffering from "too much winning"
Alas, no. Costs of living are sky high mainly because of the taxes. Period. Rents are mainly sky high because the mountains of crony regulations prohibit new construction anywhere as gentrification is fiercely resisted as part of the ongoing tradition of the "war against poverty"
Marxism drove the middle class out, not "too much bidniz"
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Also, it was clearly "the war on poverty" Hugo Chavez style that gutted the middle class, especially in California where the middle class is voting with their feet.
Almost 100 years of the war on poverty, trillions of dollars later, and the rates of poverty have not moved as much as a percentage point.
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@coal
If only there were more Unionized monopolies of labor, that would surely would have killed those geese laying the golden eggs for the fatcats.
Marxism shrugged.
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@coal
Notably, it didn't have to be that way. Were it not for Republican policies for the last 40 years, Flint would be probably indistinguishable from Rockford, IL. Nevertheless, the factories closed. The work left. The economy crumbled.
Filmmaker Michael Moore tweeted, “Flint has voted for Dems for 84 straight yrs” and wanted to know, “What did it get us?” He's on to something.
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@3RU7AL
Blacks pay a higher "trial penalty" than comparably-situated whites;
Define Trial penalty.
Whites receive a larger reduction in sentence time than blacks and Latinos for providing "substantial assistance" to the prosecution;
For same crime? Probably not factored in.
Blacks and Latinos with a more serious criminal record tend to be sentenced more severely than comparably-situated whites;
That has a lot to do with 3 strikes laws, not jim crow laws.
Blacks are more likely to be jailed pending trial, and therefore tend to receive harsher sentences;
For same crimes? Probably not factored in.
Whites are more likely to hire a private attorney than Latinos or blacks, and therefore receive a less severe sentence
That's wealth discrimination. Has nothing to do with race. Plenty of wealthy Blacks and plenty of poor whites.
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@3RU7AL
The existing parameters in the USA are fine. The only part that needs repealing is the Commerce Clause in the Constitution and have it rewritten as it was intended to prevent states from imposing state tariffs and state restrictions on interstate trade.
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