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@3RU7AL
“Data collected by the Ferguson Police Department from 2012 to 2014 shows that African-Americans account for 85 percent of vehicle stops, 90 percent of citations, and 93 percent of arrests made by FPD officers, despite comprising only 67 percent of Ferguson’s population.”
Those statistics don’t prove racism, because blacks don’t commit traffic offenses at the same rate as other population groups.
The Bureau of Justice Statistics’ 2011 Police-Public Contact Survey indicates that, nationwide, blacks were 31 percent more likely than whites to be pulled over for a traffic stop.
Ferguson is a black-majority town. If its blacks were pulled over at the same rate as blacks nationally, they’d account for 87.5 percent of traffic stops.
In other words, the numbers actually suggest that Ferguson police may be slightly less likely to pull over black drivers than are their national counterparts. They certainly don’t show that Ferguson is a hotbed of racism.
But the report’s statistic doesn’t even look at whether people pay their fine or appear in court — something that makes a big difference in whether to issue a warrant.
Could it be that blacks are more likely to face particularly serious charges?
Using 2010 census figures for Ferguson, the Justice Department documents that about two-thirds of the city’s 21,000 residents, or 67 percent, were African-American. Interactions with police over and above the 67 percent figure would be disproportionate, but not necessarily bias-driven. After all, human groups don’t all engage in the same behaviors, and it’s possible that African-Americans commit offenses out of proportion to their numbers. But let’s set that contentious claim to one side for the moment.
When criminologists examine unlawful behaviors, they take into account factors associated with such misconduct. We know, for instance, that males commit more violent crimes than females, and that young persons are more crime-prone than the elderly or children. Consequently, when we look at the criminogenic population in Ferguson, we should account for age and gender. If we single out the young male population of the city using the census parameters for age, we find that blacks make up approximately 80 percent of the population between the ages of 15 and 29, not 67 percent. The median age of black males in Ferguson is roughly 25, whereas it is 46 for white males, according to census data. Thus, 80 percent may be a more relevant figure for measuring disparate treatment by police than 67 percent. And that means that the disparities reported by the Justice Department are 13 percent less than claimed.
Those statistics don’t prove racism, because blacks don’t commit traffic offenses at the same rate as other population groups.
The Bureau of Justice Statistics’ 2011 Police-Public Contact Survey indicates that, nationwide, blacks were 31 percent more likely than whites to be pulled over for a traffic stop.
Ferguson is a black-majority town. If its blacks were pulled over at the same rate as blacks nationally, they’d account for 87.5 percent of traffic stops.
In other words, the numbers actually suggest that Ferguson police may be slightly less likely to pull over black drivers than are their national counterparts. They certainly don’t show that Ferguson is a hotbed of racism.
The Justice report on Ferguson continues, “African-Americans are at least 50 percent more likely to have their cases lead to an arrest warrant, and accounted for 92 percent of cases in which an arrest warrant was issued by the Ferguson Municipal Court in 2013.”
Again, this pretends that a mere difference is evidence of discrimination.But the report’s statistic doesn’t even look at whether people pay their fine or appear in court — something that makes a big difference in whether to issue a warrant.
Could it be that blacks are more likely to face particularly serious charges?
One of the favored techniques in civil rights law, borrowed from social science, is disparate-impact analysis. The gist of this methodology is to compare the percentage of a particular group in a population with the percentage of those affected by the activity under study. If a wide variance exists between the two figures, that constitutes disparate impact. So, for example, if we want to determine whether, due to race bias, African-Americans are arrested in greater numbers than seems warranted by their population size, one would first establish the percentage of blacks in the population subject to arrest, then the percentage of all arrested persons who are African-American.
The next step—the hard part—is to explain the reasons for the variance, which may or may not involve bias. To continue with the example of arrests and African- Americans: if the proportion of black arrests is much greater than the proportion of the black population, then police could be treating blacks differently because of the color of their skin. It also could be that African-Americans engage in criminal activity out of proportion to their numbers, in which case bias may not be a significant explanation. Needless to say, this issue is both controversial and difficult to resolve. But one thing is clear: it’s wrong to assume bias whenever there is a racially disproportionate impact.Using 2010 census figures for Ferguson, the Justice Department documents that about two-thirds of the city’s 21,000 residents, or 67 percent, were African-American. Interactions with police over and above the 67 percent figure would be disproportionate, but not necessarily bias-driven. After all, human groups don’t all engage in the same behaviors, and it’s possible that African-Americans commit offenses out of proportion to their numbers. But let’s set that contentious claim to one side for the moment.
When criminologists examine unlawful behaviors, they take into account factors associated with such misconduct. We know, for instance, that males commit more violent crimes than females, and that young persons are more crime-prone than the elderly or children. Consequently, when we look at the criminogenic population in Ferguson, we should account for age and gender. If we single out the young male population of the city using the census parameters for age, we find that blacks make up approximately 80 percent of the population between the ages of 15 and 29, not 67 percent. The median age of black males in Ferguson is roughly 25, whereas it is 46 for white males, according to census data. Thus, 80 percent may be a more relevant figure for measuring disparate treatment by police than 67 percent. And that means that the disparities reported by the Justice Department are 13 percent less than claimed.
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@3RU7AL
Taxes are fine. Free trade works as long as the taxes are fair, like sales tax.
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@3RU7AL
That's very true, which is why a constitutional right granting the freedom to associate without government restrictions is vital.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Capitalism.
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@3RU7AL
I mean, you don't want to go shooting yourself in the foot if you actually want to help disadvantaged people do you?
Blacks predictably have higher rates of criminal behavior because most of them grow up in a gangster welfare culture, and that's the main reason for the 40% prison population rate, not some cabal of grand wizards with grey hair and a black robes.
Not incarcerating criminals doesn't do the black communities any good, but the police enjoy the no-go zones.
Most of the affirmative action programs are in place not because there is something wrong with Black DNA, but because the culture most of them grow up in is a shithole culture.
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@3RU7AL
white people are much less likely to be convicted of a crime and when they are, they get lighter sentences.
That's actually false according to Obama's and Eric Holder's DOJ findings after the Ferguson riots.
Cool urban myth though.
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@coal
When will Mueller finish?
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@coal
You say before, the article says after the firing.
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@coal
1st paragraph of the article.
WASHINGTON — In the days after President Trump fired Comey as F.B.I. director, law enforcement officials became so concerned by the president’s behavior that they began investigating whether he had been working on behalf of Russia against American interests, according to former law enforcement officials and others familiar with the investigation.
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@coal
NYT is a Right wing conspiracy rag?
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@Mharman
I also read that the FBI investigation was Retaliatory for the firing of Comey.
New York times..recent article.
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@Vader
I'd like to see patriots/Saints in the supaberl
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@3RU7AL
Imagine the horror of living in a society without ad hominems!!!!!!!
Double plus good.
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@3RU7AL
I guess Mr Edgelord isn't willing to pull a Rosa Parks on this law.
Go into a tranny bar and start calling people dude. See what happens.
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Apparently, New York has a similar law where you can be fined for not using the proper title for the protected noble class of transgenders.
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@3RU7AL
It's illegal to call a transgender "Dude"
Try it and see if you can get away with it. Go on mr. Edgelord.
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@Alec
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@3RU7AL
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@Alec
Feelings don't care about your facts.Me calling a trans person by their biologically accurate name is factual not "malicious". It also is almost never harassment, unless I yell at them their original name multiple times or something similar. How are they more vulnerable then the average person?
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@Swagnarok
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@Mharman
Eventually the PC police will fine you for calling members of the protected class nobility "stupid"
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@Alec
It is kind of funny that England evolved to remove criminal charges for failing to address nobility with the right words....while America has reverted to the customs of the Victorian era.A fine is still an unjust tyrannical punishment for misgendering someone.
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@breakingamber
Don't be a negative Nancy.
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@Vader
Lol you were so off with the patriots/chargers.
That game was an utter blowout, which was not reflected at all in the final score.
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@Nd24007
More importantly, Lawyers eliminate power abuses and the typical "might is right" crap you see in Eurotrash nations.
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Lawyers have been, and always will be, the quickest and most efficient way to regulate the free market.
All government needs to do is supply courtrooms and enforce the laws on the books regarding contracts and liability.
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@oromagi
Criminal charges would only follow, she said, if the violation reached a level that was shown to cause the risk of death or serious physical harm, in accordance with state’s existing penalty structure for health and safety code violations at long-term care centers.
I don't know why that's really necessary in a PC speech law. Why would words cause serious physical harm?
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@Vader
It doesn't matter if they are 2nd generation. They are raised in the backward culture of their parents, so they need assistance.
You don't believe the fantasy that most immigrants assimilate, do you? Assimilation is actively discouraged in both education and politics.
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@Vader
People who are born into backwards cultures need assistance. You do not.
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@coal
How do you feel about the current ineffective Congress? How can they get 2/3 for impeachment when they can't even get 2/3 to get the government running again?
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@Outplayz
The president already said he would put whatever barrier the border patrol asked for, be it steel slats or wall.
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@Outplayz
I have a lot of faith that Pelosi has far less principles than the president, so I expect her to be the one to make a deal, and not demand that the government be perpetually shut down over 5 billion dollars.
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@Outplayz
The President assuredly does not care about his image. Beware a politician with principles, he cannot be reasoned with.
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The curse of "never Trump" and "not my president" means you are obligated to put pressure on Congress to run the government correctly.
At what point will you realize Congress will never legislate or impeach?
Trump essentially gets a free pass, and so does the Congress apparently.
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@Outplayz
The longer the shutdown goes on, the more people will ask if it is really that important to shut down the government indefinitely to save 5 billion dollars.
Eventually people will have to look to Congress to solve the problem.
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@mustardness
From idiot foreigners like you who think America is your personal doormat.
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@mustardness
Riight...because the government will continue to be shut down the very second Pelosi approves 5 billion dollars to protect Americans.
Only in Mustard's Eurotrash fantasyworld.
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@dustryder
How long should Pelosi and Schumer keep the government shut down to save 5 billion dollars.
A month? A year? Forever?
I never knew Democrat voters were so hardcore about saving the taxpayers funds.
Maybe we can have a shutdown every year over budgetary cost overruns, like the trillions wasted on the obamacare experiment.
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@DBlaze
I'd like to know how many people want to tear down the 700 miles of existing fence.
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@blamonkey
The only questions that need to be asked are this.
Is ethnocentrism okay?
Can all people generally not be trusted to make decisions for themselves?
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@DBlaze
One person is too many.
Do you really think there are people out there thinking "oh a few thousand people coming across are okay as long as the wall is not built"
Those are fringe crazy people.
20% of the people don't even know the government is shut down.
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@linate
Then start blaming the people that can override a president's veto, the Republican congressmen. Those are the people with the real power.
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@DBlaze
We already had a poll on the wall in 2016, and we will have another poll on the wall in 2020.
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@coal
One of the really big problems with Detroit is the property tax problem. Almost all of the properties are overvalued, some as much as ten times overvalued. The government is currently unable to reassess properties on such a large scale. Many property owners are abandoning their properties in order to repurchase them from the government at the market value because it's easier than getting the property reassessed.
Property owners are paying zero property taxes in protest. Most cities contributions to the general coffer comes roughly half from property taxes. Detroit can't even get 15% of its total revenue from property taxes. It's a HUGE problem. It's not just a revenue problem, but also a problem for new developers that manage to navigate the crony city planning regulations, yet can't get a fair assessment on the properties.
As Mayor, what would you do to fix it?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
The very image of caravans of South Americans pouring out of LAX like a clown car is so laughable on its face. How can people force themselves to believe this?
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@linate
You are continuing to make excuses for the Congress.
That's not how our country's government functions.
Why do you want to see the Congress fail the people and destroy the country?
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