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@cristo71
My central point is that your thread deals with a very minor aspect of Trump’s candidacy.
how is the candidate being an idiot a very minor aspect?
The major aspects in my view are the ones I mentioned.
so the major aspects are things that aren't real?
I didn’t say that. That is merely your opinion of what I said.
I said he's dumb. You said that his intelligence (and lack thereof) is a minor aspect. Really seems like you're saying it doesn't matter that he's a moron.
I was never concerned about people drinking or injecting bleach.
you really should be. People eat tide pods. People used a horse dewormer to fight covid. Trump cultists are not smart. And if trump tells them something is good, some of them will believe it no matter how stupid it is.
This is the usual, tired refrain of the 30%, and it is “weak sauce.” Trump set the timeline; he didn’t dictate the execution.
the plan had already been set. There was some tweaking the biden administration could have done. But major changes weren't really feasible. Trump had already put everything in place. I'm not saying there isn't blame for the biden administration. But pretending like that train wreck is their fault alone and not trump's is willfully blind.
Russia invaded a country before Trump’s presidency and after Trump but not during Trump. That is a pretty striking coincidence by any measure.
That's like saying, I ate at noon and at 5, but not at 3. That's a striking coincidence. The obvious answer is that no it's not. Russia invades countries, then takes a break to let the global outrage die down before doing it again. There is no evidence trump's presence had any effect on Putin's plans.
“See Madman Theory”
lol, your argument is that trump is so stupid and crazy and he would have ended the world and that is why russia wouldn't invade. My counter argument is that trump being president made it VASTLY more likely nuclear weapons would be used and we would all die. But we both know that Trump loves Vlad, and russia would absolutely not have been afraid of america with trump in power. All they would have had to do was give trump exclusive rights to build some trump towers in moscow and he would have let them invade whoever they wanted.
You cannot think of a major terrorist attack on a US ally in the last year? Yikes…
My point was not that I couldn't think of one, it was that I don't know what one you were talking about. The right says that when migrants cross a border it's a terrorist attack. How am I to know what point you are trying to make?
Hint: it started a war which is still going.
I'm guessing you are talking about Israel then. And Biden is pretty much are Pro-Israel as it is possible to be. I fail to see what trump being in power would have had to do with that.
So the important issues you have listed are just bullshit. They are you dreaming about how the world would be different if trump were in charge with absolutely nothing backing up your dreams of what he could/would have done. It's just "trump strong, so trump good".
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@ADreamOfLiberty
We're just going around in circles now, so there's no point in going on. But you have effectively answered my original question. Trump cultists pretend he's smart because they just plug their ears when he says stupid shit and pretend like he's really a secret genius who even though he said something moronic, he really meant this other smart thing... that he didn't actually say.
So thanks for confirming for me.
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@Greyparrot
And a not-so common disinfectant is uv light, which the president clarified at the start AND the end of that clip.
yes, and injecting light would be an equally stupid thing to say. He had 2 very stupid thoughts in this clip. Putting UV lights into the human body, and injecting disinfectant.
Why even stop at bleach though, if you are going to mind-read the president, you should have gone full retard with formaldehyde, since it's pretty common too.That would be a cool made-up story too.
Those 2 options are equally stupid. I would be surprised if trump knows what formaldehyde is though. So he likely didn't mean that.
This is just more of the same gaslighting and mind-reading as the word "bloodbath", even though the full context makes it clear to anyone with even the most rudimentary grasp of the English language.
Yes, it is clear to most people. But some people, such as yourself, choose to just ignore what he said and pretend he meant something else.
Not only did he say it was uv light twice, but also repeated twice that the light knocks it out in 1 minute.
this is just sad. Show me how you "inject" light. cultists will just make any excuse they can for him.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Are labor, patents, and IP licensing included?
Yes. Any costs for production are included.
How could they do such a thing? What kind of institutional power would allow them to impede competitors?
your assumption is wrong. You are assuming that there are competitors that want to undercut them. If the market has been reduced to handful of large conglomerates that know that competing will drive down their profits, then there is no real competition. They don't need institutional power to prevent competition. They just need their competitors to be greedy enough to price fix with them.
Why would you think it would be a good idea for one but not the other?
Because hospitals aren't producing anything. They are providing a service. And a service that is one that if people don't get it, they die. Governments trying to get directly involved in supply lines has historically not worked out very well. Governments getting involved in providing critical services is the norm in most of the developed world.
If government could do it better it wouldn't need to destroy the private sector it could just beat it in the market.
how so? If the government came in and offered goods or services at a lower price the right would still weep about it since they are funded by tax payers.
but superior for whom?*drum roll* The Customer (the public, the consumer).
my entire point is that it is not superior for the public. The system is designed to benefit the super wealthy and screw over the poor and working class. And since the wealthy control the levers of power, there is no impetus to change the system to benefit the majority of people.
You talking about IWRA? He keeps bragging about his wages doubling.
I have no idea what he does for a living. But maybe. Like 5 or 10% of the population actually benefit from the system being the way it is. The other 90-95% get screwed over.
I wonder what that would look like. I wonder if a bunch of clueless sheep would blindly believe all those subverted institutions and foolishly give their political support to the agenda which would lead to "those people" getting richer and more powerful (even if it's through theft and fraud)?
You are describing fox news to a tee. They pretend they are for the working class and "values". But when right wing candidates get power, they always funnel more money to super wealthy and cut anything that helps the poor and working class.
Good, then what do you think about price fixing?
the details would matter significantly. If it costs $5 to make something and the government says it can't be sold for more the 5.50. That's obviously going to create problems. If the government says it can't be sold for more than $10, I am totally fine with that. Especially when it comes to the pharmaceutical industry.
What about Kamala trying to delete private healthcare?
she is definitely not doing that. But US healthcare desperately needs massive reform. A single payer system would solve sooo many problems.
Which part stifles competition?
lots of it. for example, that the US government has allowed way too many companies to merge or be acquired by other companies. Entire industries are effectively controlled by only a couple of companies. As an example, there are 4 companies (Tyson, Cargill, National Beef and JBS) that control 85% of the US beef market.
Another thing that stifles competition is the corporate ownership of government. Especially since Citizens United. Companies and billionaires can dump an unlimited amount of money into political campaigns to highjack issues. Politicians are not incentivized to do what is best for the country or their voters. They are incentivized to do what is best for their donors. So they pass stupid ass rules to benefit specific industries or companies. As an example I happen to remember off the top of my head, california recently increased the minimum wage for fast food workers. But the governor slipped in an exception late in the process that would basically only apply to 1 company, Panera Bread. And one of his biggest donors and close friends owns a bunch of Panera Bread franchises. Thus giving his donor an unfair advantage over other fast food locations.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
"Yes Trump said heat kills the virus but please don't set yourself on fire" - CDCPretty much sums it up.
Are you sure you understand that comment? They are making fun of trump supporters. They are saying that trump's supporters are so stupid that they need to be told not to kill themselves. Trump, in this very clip, suggested that injecting a disinfectant, such as bleach, could cure covid. Anyone with a fully functional brain knows that would kill you. But trump supporters might just do it.
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@Greyparrot
Maybe this is the Mandela effect working on your mind as you remember Trump saying the exact word "bleach"
Lol, this is sad. We all heard him say that he thought injecting disinfectant (a common one being bleach) and you want to quibble about which kind of poison he thought we should inject.
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@Mall
So the demand for a more supply of money is what's going.
I have no idea what you're saying.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
No, the problem with your description is that it missed the fact that "profit" is a contextual term.
no, when discussing the production and sale of goods it is very, very simple. How much did it cost to make per unit? How much are you selling per unit? Any grade schooler could do that math. There is no "context" here.
If it was worth less than people would not buy it.
unless of course, if you don't consume it you will die. Then you are forced to pay whatever they are charging.
That is why someone who is saving your life every day can charge a hell of a lot of money and you'll still consent to pay it.
this is exactly my point. Predatory companies gain control of a market, then jack up the prices knowing you have no choice but to buy it.
So be my guest. Start with California. Government farms. Government hospitals.
government hospitals sounds great. We should definitely do that. But no one is suggesting government farms. There are all kinds of things you can do without the government getting directly involved in producing products.
I believe you should have the liberty to try any production system you want, if it's superior it will take over.
but superior for whom? That is the critical question. The system we have now is superior. Assuming you are a billionaire. A small percentage of the population benefits enormously from the current system and those people have massively outsized political power.
Only an inferior system must use force to prevent competitors from co-existing.
I have not suggested using force to prevent competitors. My point is that the current system stifles competition and encourages gouging.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
So you vaguely remember someone in this thread posting a link which you presumed was a fact check from an organization you trusted not to lie to you about what Trump said but cannot be bothered to watch a video of him supposedly saying.
I have seen him say it.
Did you literally hear the words come out of his mouth?
yes. so did everyone else.
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I will settle for a candidate who says dumb things
this is a big problem. You are fine with a moron being the most powerful person in the world. The man who wonders if people should inject bleach and why you don't nuke a hurricane...
- did not have a catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan where no one is held responsible or is fired or resigns and when asked about the debacle, responds “That was four, five days ago!”
This is hilarious to me because it was trump's plan. His administration planned and carried out the preparation for the withdrawal. You blame them for being stuck carrying out Trump's plan.
- did not have Russia invading a country;
this doesn't even make sense.
- did not have Iran funding a major terrorist attack against a US ally.
I don't even know what attack you're talking about. But are you pretending like there were no terrorist attacks while trump was president? Also, how does the US president have anything to do with a terrorist attack in a country that is not the US.
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@Greyparrot
This is how you form your opinions? Projecting mind reading into actual spoken words?
either it's mind reading, or I heard him say those words out loud. I wonder which it could be....
You sound like a CIA spook here, and what's worse, you act like this is normal.
I'm a CIA spook because I heard him say something stupid, and realized it was stupid?
More mind reading. None of us have ether said, much less thought that here.
no one has said donald trump is smart? So you all recognize he's a moron? Then why would you vote for a man you know is a moron?
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@sadolite
You have drank the media Kool aide.
oohh thanks for playing! That is a strong point. Maga culists DO think donald trump is smart because even though they can hear him say stupid things, they just say "it's the media's fault" despite literally hearing the words come out of his mouth.
Thank you for your submission in confirming why people think donald trump is smart even though he says stupid, stupid things.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
So what he really means is "bleach" (even though he didn't say it)
he definitely did say that. The fact check that was thrown out in this thread confirmed that the thought it was a good idea and he would have people check that. Which is SUPER dumb
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@Greyparrot
why would you continue to claim Trump said "bleach" unless you were in a cult? You literally agreed he never said that, and then proceeded to say he said that
no, no i did not. I forget who but someone here provided a fact check that confirmed he did in fact say that he thought that bleach could cure covid and that they would look into it. So while he may not have explicitly told people to do it. He still thought it was a good idea. Which is really dumb.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
...can't admit when they're wrong:
exactly. There are dozens, hundreds of clips of trump doing and saying moronic shit. But his cultists still play the game of "no what he really meant was...."
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@ADreamOfLiberty
What does it cost to make a hit album? A few thousand in instruments and labor maybe?
the problem with your analogy is that no one needs an album to live. If people think it's too expensive they just don't buy it. They don't have that option if it's food or shelter. If you don't eat, you die. If all the grocery stores raise prices, you pay what it costs to live.
I'm totally fine with songs or movies costing whatever they want to charge. I'm not ok with children starving so a grocery store chain can do another billion is stock buy backs.
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@WyIted
This is him citing studies showing immigrant unemployment being reduced but native born unemployment being the same. So this is already a lie that has been conclusively disproven
ohh, him rambling semi-coherently is him talking about something completely differently. Now I get it.
This right here is the answer to my question though I guess. How do people hear trump say incredibly stupid things and still pretend he's smart? They pretend that he didn't say the thing we all heard. No, what he really meant was something else but you just didn't understand him. Cultists...
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@Greyparrot
The reason why most people can't accept that Trump is dumb (which he is) is because your side insists he is the dumbest man on the planet. (which he is not)
I've never said he's the dumbest man on the planet. I'm guessing some people have said that as hyperbole. But I don't think most people would think that. He's managed to live to 78. He's managed to hold onto the wealth than was gifted to him on a silver platter by daddy. He's managed to stay out of prison despite a life of crime. The dumbest man on the planet couldn't have managed that. But he's still very dumb.
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@WyIted
so did he tell people to inject bleach or did he make some wild speculation in the moment?
he thought injecting bleach was a good idea. that makes him stupid. Just like thinking more than 100% of jobs could go to immigrants. Also very, very stupid.
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@WyIted
did you bother to read it? Because it confirms he did ask if people should inject bleach. Only an idiot would do that.
"Trump did ask members of the government's coronavirus task force to look into whether disinfectants could be injected inside people to treat COVID-19."
That would be a question not a policy proposal but that is also a lie.
I never said it was a policy proposal. I said it was something stupid he said. Your link shows there are articles where people reported to journalists that trump had asked them that question. So where exactly is the lie?
hyperbole stating that changes in migrant unemployment went down while native citizens stayed the same backed by statistical proof. so again you are lying
lol no. There is no such thing as "more than 100%". Any primary school child could tell you that. He's just an idiot.
All the supposed lies you mentioned were debunked in this thread
you debunked literally none of them. You just linked to articles confirmed he said these things. Did you even read the things you linked?
If he is actually a liar, why do people lie about his lies instead of just actually pointing out actual lies he told?
The primary point here is that he is stupid. REALLY stupid. The him lying was just an offhand remark since he did the "people tell me" thing in this clip and that almost always means the next thing he says will be a lie.
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@Greyparrot
I am saying it.
that's stupid. There is a price that it costs to produce something. There is a healthy profit margin that should be added on top of that. But if the "free market" decides that a profit margin should be 10,000% of the cost to produce it, then the market is wrong. The government needs to step in to stop that from happening since that is obviously not functioning correctly.
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@Greyparrot
Cool, so let's set the prices at zero. Problem solved.
no one has ever said that. But letting the market decide the prices has caused the prices to skyrocket because corporations are, by design greedy. The free market is failing us.
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@Greyparrot
It's just isn't the same unless you can bring up "the classics"
gotcha. You can't argue that trump didn't say something very stupid that a 10 year old could explain to him, so you want to distract and talk about something else.
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@Greyparrot
Let’s face it, the economy is just too complicated with all this pesky "supply and demand" nonsense.
this right here is where you misunderstand. Much of the price raises have nothing to do with supply and demand. They just have to do with greed and price fixing. For example when a drug company buys up a patent for a life saving drug, then jacks up the price by 500%. The price of making the drug didn't go up. The demand for the drug didn't go up. The only thing that changed is the company decided they wanted to gouge for more money, and since no one else can make that life saving drug, people have to choose between paying it, or death.
But you can see it in every day places. Look at food prices. The costs of ingredients and labor have gone up a little, but they are raising prices FAR in excess in the excess costs. They are running record profits and pretending like the reason for their prices going up is that their costs are going up. But if that were true, their profits wouldn't have gone up. The capitalist solution to that is competition. Some other company should come in and undercut them. But they're not. Those other companies know that fighting like that only hurts all of their profits. So they all just keep raising prices and getting richer. There is no free market solution to this problem because the "free market" is doing the price fixing.
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@Greyparrot
How smart are people that use debunked propaganda as statements of fact?
how about this new one? Is that propaganda? Where, in a rambling old man way, said that more than 100% of jobs went to migrants? No smart person would say that because it doesn't make any sense.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
lol you got me. I saw the title and was like "what? really?". Well done sir.
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There are classic examples like him telling people to inject bleach to fight covid or asking why they don't use nuclear weapons on hurricanes. But at his recent press event he was saying that more than 100% of job creations went to migrants. And it wasn't like he slipped and said the wrong thing. He stopped mid sentence, re-iterated it and repeated it more than once. Emphatically. What kind of moron thinks that more than 100% of jobs could go to anyone. This idiot doesn't know what 100% means. How could anyone think he is qualified to be president when he doesn't understand grade school math?
It also highlights how frequently he lies. If you ever hear him say anything like "people are saying" or "people have told me" you can be sure he is lying. Because he's "heard that substantially more than, uh, beyond actually beyond the number of 100% it's a much higher number than that". What a doofus.
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@Greyparrot
He said he was a retired E-9....multiple times.
he was an E-9. He is retired. Even if that that statement was what he said verbatim, it wouldn't be a lie. When a CEO retires and he says "i'm a retired CEO", you don't accuse him of lying because he isn't currently a CEO. He was one. then he retired. He was an E-9. Then he retired.
But again, this is an extremely dumb argument to make. All you are doing is drawing attention to his 24 years of service to his country. Playing word games to try to pretend like he somehow lied about his decades of service isn't going to work. Especially when trump lied about bone spurs to avoid military service. This "attack" only helps them.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
It’s another made up scandal like Benghazi and Hunter Biden
oh I know. This guy is basically as generic an upstanding citizen as you can imagine. A soldier, a football coach, a teacher. They are desperately flailing for something to attack him with and the best they can do is a DUI from 30 years ago and that they don't understand his military record.
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@Greyparrot
Yah, no. That's not actually how legislation (the sausage) is actually made. Pelosi knew exactly how many votes she needed and what she could get away with.
By the time it hit the floor, republicans had had a long time to paint it as "death panels" and all sorts of nonsense. The people who voted against it were the super right wing democrats who voted against because their right wing constituents believed the lies about it. If he had picked an actual progressive system that didn't have so many confusing, ridiculous features, it would have been much easier to implement.
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@Greyparrot
still makes no sense. Democrats had a supermajority. The only people Obama had to please were other Democrats (and he failed 34 of them)
you're just repeating my points back to me. Obama had the power to make real change. But he was far more right wing than people hoped. So he pushed for a right wing plan to appease the republicans.
Also, it's Pelosi that actually crafted the bill, not Obama. Obama really didn't get to decide what version hit the floor.
Obama was the leader of the party. If he said "this is my policy" that is what would have reached the floor.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
When Democrats embrace stupid republican ideas, disaster follows. Repealing Glass-Steagall is another example.The Defense of Marriage Act and Don’t ask Don’t tell, are two more examples
yeah, it drives me crazy. And they've been doing it for decades. They see how they could make things better with a progressive policy, then actively choose to do the opposite while flipping off the left. Then bragging how "centrist" they are as they push right wing policy. It's helped the republicans push the overton window to the right. Because if Clinton is a "communist" while pushing right wing policy, anyone actually left of center is the "far left".
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@Greyparrot
And retired as an e-8. Not a e-9 as he bragged in dozens of campaign ads.
ok. and? He was an e-9 while he was active duty. He retired as an e-8. What is the scandal?
More like cleaned up the narrative by lying about driving himself to the police station and having a hearing loss problem when he ran from the police.
no idea what you're talking about. But him doing 1 bad thing 30 years ago is not something anyone cares about. Trump and Vance are doing bad things right now. But sure, try to get people to care about a drunk driving charge from 30 years ago while trump is awaiting trial for trying to overthrow democracy.
Don't pretend these 2 bozos are the best the left has to offer the American people. That's an insult to actual Democrats.
Walz is pretty good actually. I'm quite pleased with him being chosen. And yeah, there are better people I would prefer to see elected. But they are orders of magnitude better than trump and vance. And they are going to kick trump's ass.
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@Greyparrot
weird take considering no republicans voted for it. with over 30 democrats opposing
that's exactly what I said. He picked a republican plan thinking that republicans were reasonable. Why would they vote against their own plan? But he forgot that republicans don't care about actually helping people. Stopping the Dems was the only thing that mattered.
Obama had a blank slate, but Democrats are the ones to blame here.
that's what I'm saying. Obama should never have tried to work with the republicans. He picked a right wing plan because he wanted bipartisanship. But republicans (the elected ones anyway) cannot be reasoned with. They had no interest in finding a good policy and passing it. They wanted to stop him from accomplishing anything even when he picked their plan. There was literally no plan he could have picked that they would support. And he wasted precious time trying to convince them when it was always hopeless. He had to pick a good policy and ram it down their throats. Then use the success of that policy to prove they were wrong to oppose it.
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@Greyparrot
He has to fight a stolen valor and DUI scandal.
there is no stolen valor scandal. That's just nonsense peddled by idiots on the right. He served in the military for 24 years.
And he had a DUI decades ago and then cleaned himself up and has been nothing but a service to his community for decades. But feel free to pretend like that's a scandal. Especially compared to the train wreck that is trump and Vance. Trump is literally a convicted felon with dozens more felony charges coming. Vance is creep who keeps having scandal after scandal. I've lost track. We know he hates women, non-whites (which is extra weird given his wife isn't white), irish people. I'm sure I've missed some.
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@Greyparrot
I think this is a hasty generalization. The right doesn't want to starve people any more than the left
you're right. This is a bit much. The right doesn't want poor people to starve. They just don't want to do anything to prevent it while pushing an economic system that makes them starving much, much more likely. But the starvation isn't the goal. Making the rich richer is the goal. Dead poor people is just a consequence they don't care about.
But there is a middle ground where both can agree the current equity policies are not working as intended.
true. The democrats acting like republicans and caving to them has made systems soo much worse. Take obamacare for example. Instead of making a good policy that would really help people, Obama wanted to be able to work with the republicans. So he literally picked a right wing plan (he stole it from mitt romney) and the republicans still did everything they could to sabotage it. If Obama had just ignored the republicans and pushed for a good system from the start, he could have saved so many lives and prevented so many bankruptcies due to medical debt.
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@Greyparrot
It is true that many on the right want to dismantle equity policies as it has caused irreparable damage to the family structures. Being costly is another problem.
you have it backwards. They hate it when the government helps people (other than when it gives handouts to the rich, they love that). They then come up with ways to stop the government from doing that. Pretending like feeding poor people damages the family is just one of the ways they push their asshole agenda while trying not to look like the goal is to starve poor people.
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@Greyparrot
Right wing libertarians want to cut social spending and really anything that protects the poor. So they fund think tanks, like that one, to do research that supports their goals. The point is to muddy the water and make it look like preventing poor people from starving is actually better. If you just let children live in poverty, it will be better for them... somehow.
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My understanding is that the left wont doesn't like it when they beat or indoctrinate their children. The left wants to feed them and provide them with health care, and the right hates that.
Then also throw in some conspiracy theories about how keeping families from starving to death harms families somehow.
Bottom line, it's all bullshit. Republicans absolutely have no intention to actually support children or families. to the extent they think about families at all, it is about parents, in particular fathers, having as much power as possible over their family. So when they say they support "families", they don't mean the same thing most other people mean.
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Establishment Liberals
Reading their description of that group, I suppose that's probably accurate. But yeah, there were some questions where I didn't have access to a great answer.
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@Sidewalker
What, you don't think Trump can ride in on Kari Lake's shirt tails?
lol. She's a perennial loser whose only claim to fame is whining for 4 years straight about how she's a loser and she can't accept that. Oh, and also for trying to stay so close to trump she could be confused for a hemorrhoid.
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@WyIted
While true that everyone's lives got worse after 2020 due to inflation
a combination of covid messing up supply chains and incredibly greedy companies drove up inflation. It has been falling since then. The latest inflation numbers are almost back to the target inflation. But I have no doubt that if trump won he would try to take credit for what is already happening under biden.
but also a decrease in the safety of people
what does that even mean? That could be anything from the violent crime rate, the roads not being safely paved, a racist dog whistle about immigrants.
A depression is coming though and while it is possible even Trump could not avoid it, we know harris is incapable of avoiding it
Economic downturns ALWAYS happen. It is a cycle. The is a growth period, then a contraction, then more growth. The US economy has grown significantly. A contraction is inevitable. And if it comes, trump will be just as much to blame as anyone else. He was president for 4 years and did basically nothing useful with it.
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Activists have gotten enough ballots to get a new proposal on the ballot in November to make a change to the state constitution to add abortion as a “fundamental right”. Previous cases where such an amendment has been on the ballot has driven up voter turn out. In all 7 states where the question of abortion has been put directly to voters, the pro abortion side has won since Roe was overturned.
Since harris is already polling ahead of trump in Arizona. This addition to the ballot makes it a fair bit more likely than Harris will take arizona.
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@SocraticGregarian96
1) Assholes (like Bill Maher and Lebron James)
agree on bill maher. He's basically just a republican now. Don't know anything about Lebron
2) Stupid (like the Hamas supporters and other “useful idiots")
I'm guessing by "hamas supporters" you mean "people who oppose genocide". I'm not sure why that is controversial. Palestinians are people. Massacring people is wrong. Saying people are stupid for thinking human lives should be protected says more about you than you seem to think.
3) They are just going along with what is popular (most of their youth)
this also describes alot of republicans. But I won't disagree there are democrats doing that too.
4) Elites, Oligarchs, and Bureaucrats.
lol, the republicans are almost entirely run by the super wealthy. The democrats certainly have problems with elites and oligarchs pulling strings. but to pretend like the republicans are somehow better for that is just laughable.
5) Communists, Socialists and Marxists
I'm convinced 90% of republicans couldn't describe what communism even is. I haven't heard anyone advocating for a single communist policy. Maybe somewhere way out on the fringes. Like so far out i've never even heard of them. But to pretend like they are "democrats" is silly. Much more likely is that you ascribe anything you don't like as "communism". So you see communists and socialists everywhere when those people are actually pretty centrist.
Again, I challenge you to cite an example.
I took a minute to google it. It really isn't hard.
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@WyIted
He said if the election is fair he will accept the results and yes if Kamala loses and the election was rigged in any way, she also has an obligation to her voters to not accept defeat without a fight
But we already know that he requires absolutely 0 evidence to support claims of fraud for him to say it wasn't fair. So when says "if it was fair" he means "if I win". If he loses, he will say it wasn't fair.
Which top secret document that helped him come to this conclusion, that you are not privy to do you think he interpreted incorrectly?
he was president. He had the authority to declassify literally any document he wanted (except nuclear secrets). If he had documents to prove the election wasn't fair, he could have produced them both to the american people and in the many court cases he launched. the fact that he didn't proves they don't exist.
You don't engage in criminal conspiracy (one of the charges he is still facing) to try to overturn the results when you have proof that would allow you to legally overturn the results.
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@SocraticGregarian96
1) your grammar sucks, but that’s OK, I won’t be a pessimist. (Plus I’m sure mine is not perfect either.)
I don't care about your opinions of my grammar.
2) your name sucks, you are not a history buff if you believe and spread this crap.
lol, whine harder.
3) the reason why it is crap is because Musk champions free speech, this negates your point about “allowing literal nazis on the platform”,
lol oh he certainly tells people loudly and often that he supports free speech. This is a lie. He regularly bans people for saying things he doesn't like and abuses his power over the algorithm to boost right wing content and suppress left wing content.
as he allows anyone that is not breaking the law on the platform.
no, he bans people for saying things he doesn't like. But he just happens to like things nazi's say.
Fourth, it’s pretty obvious why saying “cisgender” is cumbersome and confusing;
how? It provides information in a clear way. What exactly is confusing about it? It's a really simple term.
STOP sexualizing your gender and shoving it in my face
I have no idea what this even means. Who is shoving their gender in your face? and how?
I really don’t care if you want to put your dick in a guy or a gal. But you need to get a life, stop obsessing over it, and stop shoving it in my face.
I don't think you understand what cisgender means. It has nothing do with who you have sex with. It just means someone who's gender matches the one they were assigned at birth. IE you were born male, you are still male. that's it. There isn't anything "sexual" about it.
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@Greyparrot
That's fine, but he didn't have to lie about "lowering the temperature in our politics"I guess lies are only for when you are the presumptive nominee. After you can't be elected, then it's time for rebellious insurrection high temperature speech.
You act like the 2 aren't accurate though? He literally tried to overthrow democracy. He used violence. People died. He's likely going to go to prison for it. He might be there right now if he hadn't had friendly judges slow things down. Accurately describing what trump has done and is planning to do isn't raising the temperature.
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@Double_R
What I find most remarkable about him is how brazen of a hypocrite he is.
or how he allows literal Nazi's on the platform and even sometimes re-posts their content, but will ban people for saying "cisgender" which he inexplicably says is a some kind of slur.
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@Greyparrot
So says America's sitting president.
so says the majority of the country. The last time he lost an election he made up lies pretending he somehow won even though there is no evidence. He engaged in a conspiracy to overthrow the election with "fake electors" (their word). Then when that failed, got a crowd of fanatics to attack congress to try to stop the peaceful transfer of power. And he has already said that if he loses he won't accept the results this time either.
Everyone can see he is a threat to democracy.
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@Greyparrot
19 years of stolen valor.
no idea what you're talking about. He served 24 years in the military before retiring. I don't know how you can "steal valor" when you served for 24 years. This is just stupid and desperate.
He made policies to ensure tampons would be available in male teen bathrooms, because government cares about "trans rights" or something.
actually no. The law did not specify what bathrooms they needed to go in. It just said that tampons needed to be available in bathrooms. That was interpretted to mean in ALL bathrooms, so it included boys bathrooms.
But I have literally no idea what people are whining about. Any boy who has a sister or a mother grew up with tampons in their bathrooms. The pearl clutching is absolutely insane. Why having tampons in the vicinity of a boy is somehow a bad thing i cannot understand. So please explain how this is a bad thing.
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