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@Wylted
As your lawyer, I recommend you do not do above as you are the rightful President-Elect
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@Skipper_Sr
Will you provide a link (if there is one) to the forum of the last election? I would like to read it.
Here is a thread by Lunatic highlighting how out of touch RM is with the concept of free speech.
A short excerpt by Lunatic (who voted RM because he felt bad about supporting Max so hard):
“RationalMadman has a mentality towards "bullies" that is absolutely insane by the way. I tried having a discussion with rationalmadman some months back about the movie "Borat" where I was told by RM that the actor who played Borat (Sacha Baron Cohen) was a bully, and a horrible person because he pulls public pranks at others expenses and doesn't inform them of the prank (obviously that would undermine the very idea of the prank). In having a conversation with him about this and trying to get him to see how absurd the idea that this guy is the anti-christ because of a prank, RationalMadman proceeded to lump me into the same "evil person" category and subsequenty blocked me and left the discord. I was flabbergasted by this. I was honestly attempting to debate and discuss an issue with him, and was called a bully and blocked.”
“But it's important to understand his worldview of bullying. If he views something as offensive, and you dis-agree with him that said thing is offensive, you are automatically to be silenced, or cancelled. He is cancel culture personified. Cancel culture and people who view the world through a "right to be offended by everything lens" is the problem with society. Comedians can't tell a joke without offending someone. You can't make a star wars or ghost buster movie with out a strong powerful female lead or you are a misogynist. The same rhetoric we see every day is caused by people with the same world view as RationalMadman.”
He seriously does not have the temperament to be President. To him everything is bullying and harassment. Things which people can get banned for on this site. To think he has any interest in free speech is laughable.
He literally told me in PMs that he thinks Lunatic should’ve been banned for a one off attack on me, which I frankly ignored. Even I didn’t want him banned because I knew it was just a one time emotional outburst. Under RM, Lunstic would’ve been banned. Even in a game, he rage quit because he didn’t get his way, and then proceeded to blame everyone else except himself. (I can provide threads for both instances)
Not only that, RM is a serial reporter of posts. He will literally report anything remotely offensive even if it’s clearly a joke. He has an ego problem. Literally.
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They had debates, not everyone is a forum-heavy site user.
After they started voting lol
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Lmfao
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I am not here to tell what the rules are, as Oromagi pointed elsewhere and I knew, Wylted is ineligible to even be president.
And the mods didn’t do anything about it, which is a shame. And if you knew, why didn’t you say it? Or were you planning on abusing it to win?
I am not trying to win by abusing rules, those 2 votes either were (as in the 2 for me) legitimate or not. I would be concerned about this grey area in rules no matter what the situation was in score, it just turns out it has led to this.
Even with the minimalist standard of one post anywhere, the two votes wouldn’t count.
I am now going offline from here for some time. This is becoming BS and Wylted has mass-campaigned on PMs violating rules, if the runoff happens. Meowranger and others have told me so.
Getting Out The Vote isn’t mass-campaigning; not to mention it was sanctioned by Whiteflame.
I don't like Wylted, I don't care what happens here. I just care I lost to a clown campaign the right way and not by 2 votes being wrongly ruled off.
You did lose the right way. Those two voters didn’t even have a single post prior to their vote lol
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Where's your 'free speech' advocacy gone? :)Slander implies I lied.
You can say what you want. I’m not advocating for you to be banned. In the real world you’d probably get sued though.
Bad faith sums up their votes.
And your two voters who were recruited, had zero activity prior to voting, and have contributed nothing to this site are equivalent to two Founders of DART? Okay lol
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@Ramshutu
Somehow, I very strongly suspect that RM would not be questioning my, or Vaarks vote had I voted for him.
Obviously. It’s clearly done in bad faith and frankly slander against you two
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@oromagi
Here are the election rules as voted on by the DART Community. Why don't we have any explanation about why Mods are consistently failing to ignore these rules?
I agree, we should hold them accountable
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The first thing the two voters in question ever did on this site was to vote RM.
RM says Founders like Ramshutu and Vaarka shouldn’t be able to vote even though theyve contributed a lot to this site.
#Hypocricy
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@PREZ-HILTON
Remember he wanted me to lose and you had to concede to foil his plans?
Oh ya, we were like top two or something and I quit even though he didn’t want me to
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@PREZ-HILTON
I don’t remember lol but probably
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I am not even a moderator on the discord server, you are lying.
Should say blocked*
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@Skipper_Sr
Do you have an example of RM's alleged opposition of "freedom of speech"?
Yes, the last election was entirely about RM’s opposition to Free Speech. He changed his tune this time cause he was forced to drop out last time, but he has a history of blocking for people he disagrees with, advocating bans for people who upset him.
Who does RM hold grudges against?
Me definitely. He’s gone so far as to ban me on Discord
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Wylted legally won. Even WF has initially admitted that. If Wylted won by 3 instead of 2, WF would not even be reconsidering
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@Sir.Lancelot
I proposed a solution in the case that it was a tie to both Barney and Whiteflame.Settled over a 2-round debate with 12-24 hours of posting time where both candidates can outline their respective positions. Voting period would take place over a week, giving everyone enough time. So no excuses if either of the candidates lost because their supporters couldn't get online in time.Could be Open Voting or Judicial Decision.
So RM can steal it? Definitely not lol.
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It depends what you said. If you said threats I would not veto it, I could still veto the time and get to the root of the dispute.
You literally wanted me banned over a game where lying and making people mess up is the entire point. Give me a break. You’re a radical. You would ban every person you have blocked if you could.
I am very perceptive psychologically because I learned, having been autistic/aspergers and lagging in social skills, to manually gain reading ability of people. Even online. I have watched documentaries, read books and all sorts to refine my ability to truly perceive and understand people emotionally as they are, not as I wish they were or as I presume them to be.
Good for you, maybe you should watch learn more about lowering your ego.
I am that freak who reads body language like a machine. I am very perceptive. If you had lashed out at another user, it would not occur to me to assume you had nothing bad happening irl or no reason to do it.
What are you implying lol. You’re literally just rambling.
I understand anger, all too well. I would chat with you and the other party individually and liaison with the mods to achieve an actual mutual apology, resolution and things you think are not even possible over text I would achieve.
Considering you literally have me blocked right now over bullying in literally a ‘game’ sure.
I have a healing way about me, you do not realise it but it exists and I also have an aggressive, assertive way about me and that gets more noticed. I can handle situations with severe finesse, to the point the mods and even the toxic users would go damn RM how did you do that but I need the actual authority or people like polytheist witch just say get lost even when I truly am advocating their case and trying hard to understand what caused them anger, since I am not a mod and useless in their eyes.
More rambling, blah blah blah
That is why I wanted the title of president, I could get more to talk and properly make the mods take me serious when I say dont try route A, try route B. They are starting to see my wisdom. I told whuteflame both that Shila would be a chronic toxic voter he should have instantly been harsh with to reform her and was proven right and that she was no way in hell a bot and was proven right. I have had other instances like that. The mods trust me. You just do not see it
No one trusts you lol. You’re literally going to be controlled opposition. You’re a representative of the people of DART in the mod team, yet you have a lot of people who are consistently active blocked.
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@MeowRanger
Is there any evidence or testimony for the above statement?
Yes. Chief Moderator Whiteflame saw the 2 votes in question and willfully did not count them likely because they were clearly created for the purpose of voting with zero activity prior to the votes.
RM is contesting this miscount because he lost and solely for that reason. He’s basically a sore loser (he practically admitted hit with his numerous outbursts as I have seen countless times)
At best what he could do is tie, which would create a DARTional Crisis. There is no scenario for a tie in the election. Wylted has already pledged to reform the election process so these types of questions do not come up again. RM has no such plan
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So now we’re condoning ballot harvesting?
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@Skipper_Sr
That sounds like equity rather than equality
Equality in the banning process. Let’s be clear here. If I am banned for free speech, RM would happily not veto it. He’s had me and a lot of people blocked since forever. Wylted even if he disagreed with you would fight for your free speech
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Ramshutu has been a completely belligerent liar and abuser about me during most of his time here, until he decided to quit outside of elections with years of only posting 2 bursty moments in between.There is a reason he did not disagree with anything I said to Lancelot about his (Ramshutu's) narrative being a lie.
Exhibit C of RM’s temperament. He is openly disparaging a voter. If you’re not on his side, he will target you. Wylted will be fair to all.
Commit your vote to Wylted today!
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Perhaps karma is a bitch either eay around.For you it would be a bitch if your 1 day account advocation ends up backfiring as they allow 5 day old accounts.
Wow, the classic “no u”
There is no way at all, none, that you can tell me a consistent track record of ditching dart for over 2 years other than for elections which also includes ramshutu is worse than new accounts appearing to deeply care about the site and the election.
Those people have contributed a lot to the site. I think it was Vaarka who recruited me to DART after DDO was gone. They’re alumni, and they absolutely have the legitimate right to vote compared to people who have zero track record.
Either way, I am assuming if they allow the votes it will be a runoff, I am solely posting here to make clear your side has zero moral leg to stand on after it tried to make you have coup power via a MEEP and then tried to allow 1 day old accounts to vote.
More independent arbitration power, but okay
I will accept the outcome that happened, as the rules play it out to be. I actually solely told things in advance to be transparent. If I had done this while silent, it would seem sinister and shady. You have the ability to pitch your case to whiteflame and the mod team.
I already have both publically and privately
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If an account does more in 2.9 months than samstevens, ramshutu and Vaarka have done the past 2 years, who shows more eligiblity to vote?
What have your 1 week accounts done lol. Literally nothing. The people you mention above have contributed far more than the two one week accounts.
It’s fascinating that you were mocking me when you were winning but now crying when you lost. Karma really is a bitch.
We all know your ego is what is preventing you from conceding. If you had any shred of self-respect, you would concede and tell WF to accept the results immediately.
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Not to mention that people can change their votes before Election Day as I pointed out this year and last year.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Comprehensive Immigration Reform with a pathway to citizenship
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As Señor Vice President, I condemn RationalMadman’s actions to the fullest. He is leading an insurrection right now to duly overthrow the rightful leader of this site.
He had no interest in pursuing the right to vote while the vote was happening, but decides to contest after because he lost and is a sore loser.
I appeal to the moderators to dismiss this case, thus avoiding a DARTtional Crisis and inaugurate the rightful man: Mr. Wylted as President
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@whiteflame
I congratulate you out of obligation, not respect nor some deep acknowledgement. You did not deserve to win, your platform was that vermin supreme endorsed you and that you will give out gift cards. The voters are waiting for you to announce the winner and reveal your amazing google docs manifesto.
This is a concession. Lawsuit has been withdrawn. Please announce Wylted as the legitimate winner
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May I present exhibit B of RM’s temperament folks
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@PREZ-HILTON
Congratulations Mr. President
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If you of all people think this is me angry and lashing out, then it is amusingly good for me. I do not care to be known for my anger and this is so far from it that it benefits me if people presume it to be.
More like salty but sure
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I have been calm throughout. Calm does not mean passive and cowardly.
We’ll let the people decide that :)
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Why Pie stepped down for Wylted by not running despite wanting to 2 years in a row is beyond me.
Unlike you, I don’t have an ego. Let’s be real here. The only reason you want to be President is so it goes on your resume
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Ladies and gentlemen I present to you RM’s temperament
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@oromagi
Obviously the bill is going nowhere but designed to identify the White Supremacists hiding among us by triggering their compulsion to play the victim. Thanks for your cooperation!
Can black people be white supremacists?
Is there a such thing as black supremacy?
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@FLRW
There’s no such rule for Presidential Voting, which is why Wylted was the only candidate to call for a vote adjudicator
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@JimBlaze
Are you implying that my vote is not legal? What would make you think that?
Lol, that’s WF, not me. If you’re not a multiaccounter, your vote should count. If you are then only one vote by you should count.
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I will make you a deal you cannot refuse,We agree to count Johnny's vote and then count Jimmy and Jim's. :)
If it already isn’t clear, idc who votes for who, just that legal votes should be counted.
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@RM
If you win, I would hope there will be a full investigation into this matter that has prevented possibly legal votes from being counted.
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@whiteflame
As a moderator, you have a fiduciary duty to the voters who passed the MEEP to explain the evidence behind why votes are not counting
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@whiteflame
They are not multiaccounts of one another. They are distinct accounts created by different people, one of whom copied the pfp of the other. That's all the information you'll get from me.
So why are their votes not counting again? Especially if they’re distinct people? What’s the evidence they only created the accounts to vote. How can you determine that before the election is even over?
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@whiteflame
They're two different people who made two different accounts with the same pfp to vote for opposite candidates. It's honestly not that hard to figure out and I don't know why you keep making this point. And, no, just because you want to get all the reasons why these now three accounts that were obviously made for the purpose of voting in this election doesn't mean I'm going to release privileged information about them.
What do you mean two different people? Are you admitting that the accounts were owned by different people?
Anyone can impersonate an individual. I’m asking for evidence that explains why someone that thinks Wylted is cuck would vote for Wylted Lmaoo. They’re either 2 separate people or multi accounts.
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Last time I was told anyone that signs up within 2 weeks of the election is not old enough an account to vote, or whatever the threshold was. That multi-accounter signed up the same day.
I don’t see that in the rules. Plus the first account signed up on the 16, which was yesterday
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You should be demanding information and transparency as well RM. A legal vote should be legal whether it’s for you or Wylted
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@PREZ-HILTON
We need to be able to work with him should we win
He’s actively rigging the vote lol without providing any evidence. If the evidence says something, it would be fine, but he’s hiding it.
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@whiteflame
I do not publicly release information that is only available to moderation because of our administrative access. That's not going to change now.
So you’re not going to explain to the public why you’re restricting the vote of an individual? Who voted for one person and then created an account to vote for the other person while thinking “Wylted is a cuck.” That defies any sort of logic whatsoever lmao. And people wonder why there’s no trust in “moderation.”
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@whiteflame
Are you gonna be transparent or hide in your basement like Joe Biden?
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And this is why we need a vote adjudicator folks
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