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@Greyparrot
I give him credit for selling oil from the strategic reserves to China. 20 million barrels worth. During an emergency crisis.
I give him credit for bringing us to the highest inflation rate ever and then driving us straight into a recession. Even Jimmy Carter wasn’t this bad
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@Double_R
Funny how when gas prices go up it’s all Biden’s fault, but when they go down he gets none of the credit for it.
Why should he? What did he do to reduce prices? I know. Try to redefine the definition of RECESSION. I wonder if that has anything to do with the decrease?
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@Greyparrot
Oh look another investigation. Add one more to the list of failed investigations. Gonna be funny when the Trump DOJ goes after Hunter and Joe after 2024. You reap what you sow.
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@Greyparrot
Yellen is now redefining a recession to be something other than 2 consecutive quarters of GDP decline.Full Gaslight.
It’s nothing new for liberals. They have been denying simple economics with their socialist policies for years now
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@3RU7AL
please give specific examples of overfunded schools performing below averageobviously not all the money is EVENLY DISTRIBUTED
It’s an average genius. Learn how statistics work.
Proper funding is one component of education that leads to better academic performance, but it is not the defining metric. You cannot simply assume that more money per student means better performance.
I don’t. I’m saying that’s how politicans are currently approaching the problem, when it’s fundamentally flawed.
Consider a district that is in decline. In such a district, people move away to go to better school districts. This causes the number of students remaining in the district to decrease. This artificially and temporarily inflates the cost per student since there are fewer students. That happens until teachers get laid off and staffing expenses are lowered to compensate for the lost tax revenue. The point is that one set of metrics alone cannot tell the whole story.
The opposite is also true, hence why people take averages. You have to demonstrate that there’s a fundamental skew to one side of the spectrum, which you have not.
Data shows that top-performing states spend more per student than low-performing states
Once again, irrelevant. I am comparing the US as a whole to other countries as a whole. Not to mention cultural origins play a significant part, especially in Asian American areas in California and New Jersey
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@3RU7AL
i'm simply pointing out that the top ranked schools IN THE WORLD are in the united states
Again that’s a strawman. You leave out the criteria that make them the “top-ranked schools,” pretty conveniently
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@3RU7AL
please give specific examples of overfunded schools performing below average
Here’s your evidence made easier to understand. Please explain why the US spends the most per student but math and science test scores are below countries that spend less. If spending money and test results are positively correlated, more money should equal higher scores, not less.
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@3RU7AL
Equal Educational Opportunities Act - Declares it to be the policy of the United States that all children enrolled in public schools are entitled to equal educational opportunity without regard to race, color, sex, or national origin; and that the neighborhood is the appropriate basis for determining public school assignments. States that the purpose of this Act is to authorize concentration of resources under the Emergency School Aid Act on educationally deprived students and to specify appropriate remedies for the orderly removal of the vestiges of the dual school system.
So? I’ve already said our current policy is throwing money at schools. It’s not working though.
Title I: Assistance - Provides financial assistance for educationally deprived students enrolled in schools with a high proportion of students from low-income families, or transferring from such schools to schools enrolling a lower proportion of students from low-income families.
And so? I’ve already said the government spends an insane amount of money per pupil with subpar results. You have yet to address how spending money =/= better education.
Authorizes grants from State educational agencies to local educational agencies adopting and implementing plans for such students. Sets requirements for State educational agency plans and applications under this section. Authorizes appropriations for payments to States under this section of $500,000,000 for each fiscal year. Provides for judicial review for a State following final action on its plan.
Irrelevant.
All I’m saying is the current strategy of throwing money is not working. In two posts you fail to address why this is the case.
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@3RU7AL
the point here is that the united states has the best schools in the worldapparently, title 9 means nothing
That’s irrelevant. We are spending the most per pupil but getting results that are worse than other nations. “Best high schools” doesn’t mean much. What factors are they measuring? Cleanliness? Why are they the best schools.
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@3RU7AL
Best Public High Schools In The WorldThe highly rated public high schools in the world are;
- Stevenson High School - - Livonia, MI
- Bergen County Academies - - Hackensack, NJ
- Saratoga High School - - Saratoga, CA
- Biotechnology High School - - Monmouth County, NJ
- Tenafly High School - - Bergen County, NJ
- Los Angeles High School - - Los Angeles, CA
- Novi High School - - Novi, MI
- Ruston High School - - Ruston, LA
- River Hill High School - - Clarksville, MD
- Weston High School - - Weston, CT
A.) What are the demographics of the schools
B.) I was talking overall; these results should be in every school
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@TWS1405
Our society believes that money is everything that matters. Everything revolves around money. In many cases money even destroys relationships.
Democrats and the left believe that if we throw money at the problem, it will go away. Best example is schooling. We spend the most per pupil but are like 50th for results and scoring. What’s the reason? Relationships. Specifically a nuclear household and a cultural identity.
Democrats and the left believe that if we throw money at the problem, it will go away. Best example is schooling. We spend the most per pupil but are like 50th for results and scoring. What’s the reason? Relationships. Specifically a nuclear household and a cultural identity.
If you look at certain cultures that value familial relations like Asian and Indian American, they always are at the top of the pack for schooling and income. They also assimilate while maintaining aspects of their cultural origins.
With African Americans, the problem is relationships. Democrats want to throw money at them, but money doesn’t build relationships. Reperations are not going to solve the problem of black on black crime and poverty. There’s a reason why during the times of Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights Movement African Americans were united, both in a cultural sense and relationship sense. White segregationists opened the crack and exploited it, and have been for decades (both Dems and Repubs).
Having a father figure and a mother is the best cure you can offer to the black community. If money is how we want to proceed, promote fatherhood activism. Promote what it means to be a father. Reward black fathers if you have to. The relationship is sacred. Money is not.
That’s my two cents on the topic.
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@sadolite
Call of Duty
Assassins Creed
Overwatch
Rocket League
Grand Theft Auto
Some of these come on console and PC so take your pick.
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@Greyparrot
Did you see Schiff crying on MSNBC because the DOJ would not arrest Trump?He practically called Merrick Garland a traitor to America lol!
I saw Ilhan Omar and AOC act like they got arrested. Incredible foreshadowing
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@coal
The irony. A guy who literally called for storming the Capitol clearly did nothing wrong, while a man who said protest peacefully and patriotically, asked for more security but was denied, reduced bureaucracy to ensure help could get there if need be, should be banned from office and jailed.
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@Greyparrot
@Double_R
I don’t need one because I’m not alleging or insinuating anything here. You are, that’s why I’m asking you.
There’s evidence that he was an instigator. Instigators and people who entered the Capitol have been arrested, he has not. I’m only asking why. I believe it’s because he’s a fed and that seems to be the only reasonable explanation of why he hasn’t been arrested. You have yet to provide an alternate explanation; instead, you just say it’s not true.
As far as I can see he’s just some dude doing stupid things. Not everyone who commits a crime gets arrested even when at times it seems obvious (like Trump cheating on his taxes). Sometimes the law is complicated. Failure to gather the evidence required is not evidence of innocence.
Calling for people to storm the Capitol is a stupid thing that he shouldn’t be charged for. Wow. Talk about ignoring actual incitement. Someone who verbally word for word said storm the Capitol shouldn’t be charged but a man who said peacefully and patriotically should be banned from office and put into jail.
You mean after January 6th? Because there would be nothing unusual about that. People get off or at least get lighter sentences for to their cooperation all the time.
Before. You clearly did not read the post by Coal, which says a lot.
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@RationalMadman
Trump was (and is) corrupt and had lust for power, your argument to zedvictor is amusing at best.
Then charge him. In court.
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@Double_R
I would love for you to explain what an alternative explanation for is non-arrest is. Especially considering it’s been more than a year.
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@Double_R
No, they’re actually silly questions intended to show just how ridiculous this all is. The question of who he was working for and what was his purpose is only asked to get you to start thinking, once that happens the absurdity of this becomes obvious.
We all know he would’ve been arrested by now if he worked for who you think he worked for.
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@RationalMadman
Think
It’s hard for some people to exercise their critical thinking skills. Instead of asking me, someone ought to think about how my statement could be true and then ask for clarification
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@RationalMadman
You said lust for power, not wealth.
I also said corruption.
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@zedvictor4
Corruption and lust for power.Reminds me of an Orange Guy.
An orange guy who’s net worth dropped while in office.
I'm thinking that neither of you remotely understands Pakistan.
If you’re referring to the actual Pakistani then you’re wrong lol. And I’m Indian, so ik a thing or two about Pakistani shenanigans. There’s a reason why Pakistani Hindus are an extreme minority while Indian Muslims number in the millions.
You're just pandering to your fears of Islam......Which are based upon U.S. media propaganda.
Or I actually know the history between India and Pakistan. Try again.
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@zedvictor4
So explain then.Otherwise your reply is just an unqualified and meaningless statement.
Biden won cause people voted against Trump, not for Biden. Vice versa on 2016 with Hillary
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@RationalMadman
Corruption and lust for power are part of every regime amongst the leadership, India has no shortage of that either.
it’s to a far less extent because the people still have some degree of control over politicians. In Pakistan everything is run by the military and ISI which are unelected
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@RationalMadman
The failure of Pakistan is primarily its own ignorant, backwards Sharia leadership's doing.
More like corruption and power hungriness, but that too. The military and the ISI run the show in Pakistan.
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@Greyparrot
AOC says food comes from the grocery.
Logistically, liberals would be screwed in a civil war cause they couldn’t feed their people. Easy game of attrition militarily
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@Greyparrot
It’s a funny when elitists think farmers are uneducated and stupid. They couldn’t farm to save their lives
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@zedvictor4
The American people voted for these guys.
This is where you’re wrong lol
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@Greyparrot
On a positive note, I heard Biden enjoys the attention of getting blamed so he has a reason to be angry.
He gets mad cause his approvals are worse than Trumps. Cmon man
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@PREZ-HILTON
Is that why you go to jail from time to time? 💀
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@Intelligence_06
I am not skilled enough nor evil enough to track you down through the dark web, but it could be proven. Right now, I only know that I am talking directly to an account and indirectly to a person owning this account, while not knowing who this person is. I don't even need to know. What am I even talking about?
Even if you could, you can’t prove I’m not a female. How would you prove I’m a male and not a female? My history revolves around being a male but I could easily claim that I just acted like that to prevent societal pressures. There’s no standard of proof to prove someone is a male or female when gender and sex are construed as two different items
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@Intelligence_06
You are lying until your claims and your actual evidence aligns. Either you change your gender to female on your account or you take back those words.
So if I change my gender to female I’m a female? And the fact you’re asking for “proof” makes you transphobic
The separation of account and user is needed. The account is a projection of the user. Let’s not talk about how a coat of code can be “female”, a male person can also use a “female” account (V-tubers for example). No one can prove that, not even if they dox.
That’s the point. How do you prove it? There is no way to prove it
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@Intelligence_06
Your profile says you are male, so this is blatant contradiction.
I haven’t officially come out of the closet yet. I’ve kept it to myself and haven’t told anyone.
Try again.
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@RationalMadman
@Intelligence_06
@Theweakeredge
Here’s a question to any leftist:
How can you prove I’m not lying when I say I’m a woman?
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@bmdrocks21
I’m not sure what you mean by your critique of chromosomes. Whether five year olds know what chromosomes are is irrelevant, it is what those chromosomes do. That seems to be the most useful way to determine sex in my opinion- whether or not a Y chromosome is present.
His hot-takes lack any sort of critical thought. It’s actually quite amusing
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@Greyparrot
Why does this matter at all lol... Trump could have said nothing at all after the police and FBI let in all those larpers and still remain 6 years innocent while the "walls were closing in"
Even AOC said the cops let the people in. LOL
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@Double_R
And because I know the stupid response I'm going to get; "but he told them to make their voices heard peacefully...", I'll just point out that you can't have it both ways. Trump either thought they would listen to him or he didn't. If he didn't, then your excuse falls apart on it's face. If he did, which is the only way this one sentence exculpates him, then you cannot possibly put forward any excuse for why Trump waited 3 hours after the Capitol was breached to finally tell these people to go home.
This makes no sense. Let’s assume that Trump thought the people at the rally would listen to him when he said “be peaceful.” After they weren’t peaceful, you think they were going to listen to him when they didn’t listen to him in the first place? At that point Trump would believe that they’re not going to listen to him because of observational evidence. The reason why he made the video was likely because everyone pressured him to do including Pelosi, Schumer, McCarthy, and McConnell.
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@Double_R
Exactly. This is the whole point of the thread.The reason there is no cross examination is because McCarthy decided to pull all of his members out.
Because Pelosi was picking and choosing who could be on it. Without her involvement in internal GOP matters, there wouldn’t be a question of illegitimacy Her involvement in a matter that should be decided by the GOP caucus is what caused the J6 committee’s exercise partisan and lacking in cross-ex. If she had kept her mouth shut there wouldn’t be allegations of illegitimacy lol
You can sit here all day long justifying it by quoting rules, precedent, etc., that's still what happened. So when he did that, no investigation into Trump was possible in your mind. No matter what the committee found it would be considered illigitimate to you and the millions of there just like you. Hence the strategy, and it clearly worked.
Illegitimate, no. Irrelevant/don’t care yes. There have been a million investigations into Trump to no avail. What’s another one.
The findings of the committee either could have had an impact on you, or there was never a chance they would have. If it's the latter then you're BSing - legitimacy has nothing to do with it, you dismiss the findings because you're a pure partisan. If it's the former then you have been successfully manipulated by Kevin McCarthy. One or the other.
What makes you think the findings of the J6 committee couldn’t have had an impact me? If there was proper representation thousands of other people could’ve believed it, but Pelosi allowed this talking point to get up. With great power comes great responsibility. If Pelosi gets to pick the GOP slate, there’s obviously something partisan and illegitimate about it.
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@Greyparrot
They gonna cope. Now when Speaker McCarthy rejects Adam Schiff from being on the Select Committee on Intelligence, I’m going to laugh.
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@Greyparrot
It's nice to know only a small minority of Americans care about the partisan theatre and have finally told politicians to kindly fuck off when they patronizingly tell voters what they are SUPPOSSED to care about.
Imagine thinking that Jim Banks and Jim Jordan are implicated when there is no criminal investigation to date and the House Ethics committee hasn’t even opened an investigation. Not to mention there hasn’t been a vote on expulsion from the House of Representatives.
Imagine thinking that officials in half the states that legally brought a lawsuit to the Supreme Court should be in jail for 20 years under sedition charges.
These people live in an alternate dimension.
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@oromagi
False. You said McCarthy had the right to appoint whomever he likes.POST#2: "Kevin McCarthy, as the leader of the Republican Caucus in the HoR, has the right to place any member of his caucus on the committee, whether that individual is a “partisan” or “moderate.”McCarthy had no rights because fear of Trump prevented him from negotiating any investigation, however reasonable.
I said his caucus. Pelosi isn’t going to choose whichever Republicans she wants. You and I both know how dumb that would be.
"In the aftermath of the 2021 United States Capitol attack, the proposal to form a bicameral commission failed due to a filibuster from Republicans in the Senate. In late May, when it had become apparent that the filibuster would not be overcome, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi indicated that she would appoint a select committee to investigate the events as a fallback option."
So it was the Senate. How does McCarthy have anything to do with what the Senate does. And if Pelosi would’ve allowed Banks and Jordan via that, why is she against it here lol.
You concede that the Benghazi Committee was not impartial.
Nice strawman. Benghazi allowed both sides to present their arguments. J6 does not.
Red herring yourself. I said Pelosi offered to negotiate. Like Benghazi, McCarthy was never going to get to appoint anyone and certainly no Congressman who actively participated in the crimes under investigation.
Okay so you concede that no matter what McCarthy wasn’t going to be allowed to put Jordan and Banks on the committee. Thanks!
So now you've contradicted yourself regarding McCarthy's "right to appoint" You now agree that McCarthy had no rights Pelosi was bound to respect in terms of appointment to the Jan 6 committee and that Pelosi had every right to exclude targets of the investigation from the investigation itself . Pelosi negotiated her picks in exchange for participation in the Benghazi show trials.
False. John Boehner could’ve removed the members if he so chose per the rules.
We agree that McCarthy held exclusive appointment power then as Pelosi holds exclusive appointment power now- which destroys any of those claims of official illegitimacy Tucker told you to believe.
And you contradicted yourself saying Pelosi couldn’t prevent McCarthy from appointing whoever he wants if he “negotiated.” But nice try thinking that zero cross examination is somehow a good thing.
It is not only insanely illegal, it is sedition punishable by twenty years in prison. Jordan and Banks knew for a fact that Biden was the properly elected President and actively conspired with Trump's men to subvert the Constitution of the US and incite a rebellion to deny the Constitutionally mandated transfer of power. The ONLY way to prevent future coup attempts is to put these conspirators in jail for a very long time.
So every state official that sued before the Supreme Court is also a seditionist and should be in jail. Got it. Might as well put half the country in jail lol.
So you have no problem with the targets of criminal investigations investigating themselves... classic corruption.
But there is no criminal investigation into Jim Banks and Jim Jordan. Not even an ethics inquiry.
Like Paxton's corrupt use of his AG's office to illegally delay his trials for seven years after indictment.
Lol
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@thett3
Trump had better policies than Biden but his platform doesn’t seem all that different from a more mainstream GOP politician, especially now that he destroyed the old “Bush” establishment. I would rather have someone like Ron DeSantis or Glenn Youngkin without Trumps baggage being the nominee and I think a lot of people are starting to feel that same way.
Ron DeSantis I would be fine with. But we only have one known and that’s Trump. He did all of the great things even after investigation after investigation. If Trump doesn’t run I am DeSantis all the way. Youngkin I’m still weary of at the moment.
I mean why want a standard bearer who is so easy to attack, can only serve one term, has alienated millions of people who would be open to voting Republican or not voting at all if there was a different nominee…
Attacks are going to come anyways. The entire media and establishment is against him. If those two factions oppose Trump then he is objectively the better pick.
Trump really wasn’t a very effective president and his finishing move being to incite his most fervent (and gullible) supporters into a riot that resulted in a lot of them having their lives destroyed/severely damaged because he couldn’t take an L…I want someone else.
Legally he didn’t incite anyone. A person who literally did is still not in jail.
Him becoming President again would be extremely funny so I’ll grant that
Oh it would make heads explode and I’m all for it. Bring back the Covfefe
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@thett3
I also agree that if the election were held today Trump would probably win, but we don’t know what the future holds. The economy and inflation could get worse from here in which case the dems would be in deep trouble but it could also get better in which case Biden, or a more competent dem nominee, would have a strong chance of winning especially against Trump.
I would disagree. I think Trump would still have a strong chance just because of all the disasters Biden has had in the past.
Picking the guy who could probably scrape a win at his opponents lowest point isn’t a recipe for success and would at the very least leave lots of house and senate seats on the table.
It’s actually conceivable that the GOP gets 60 seats in the Senate depending on results this year and 2024z
And really his inability to just take his lumps wasn’t acceptable. Idk what else to tell you. I was a massive Trump shill for years but you have to face the fact that he’s a complete manchild after a while
Oh he’s an asshole. I definitely agree. But he did some great work for the nation. Screwed over by Democratic hacks who illegally changed election rules.
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@oromagi
That's false. "Rights" don't come into it but McCarthy had zero power to appoint who he likes to the Select Committee because Republicans refused to participate in the creation of the committee.
I never said Pelosi didn’t have the right to reject McCarthy’s appointees. Strawman.
Pelosi had the power to appoint who she wanted to the Benghazi committee because she negotiated that power before the committee was ever assembled. Democrats wanted an impartial 50/50 Commission like 9/11 and Warren Commission but McCarthy stupidly filibustered hoping that Americans would just forget about the first coup attempt on America.
Filibustering doesn’t exist in the House of Representatives. The committee was going to be created with or without GOP votes. There is no such thing as an “impartial” commission when people like Adam Schiff get to be on it.
Pelosi offered to negotiate appointment power in exchange for bipartisan support for a Select Committee but McCarthy, fearing Trump's wrath, stupidly refused.
Nice red herring. Show me text where Pelosi explicitly said she’d allow anyone McCarthy chooses on the Committee. I will wait.
This is false. Democrats weren't "allowed" anything. Pelosi negotiated her picks as a part of her decision to participate at all. Boehner didn't want any committee chairpersons but Pelosi got him to agree to Cummings. As it was, Pelosi lost most of the negotiation but we know now that was because Hillary wanted the hearings and a chance to testify on live TV (which she correctly understood would make the Republicans look foolish and put an end to GOP hounding).
Maybe you should read up on the House rules regarding Select Committees.
“The Speaker shall appoint all se- lect, joint, and conference committees ordered by the House. At any time after an original appointment, the Speaker may remove Members, Dele- gates, or the Resident Commissioner from, or appoint additional Members, Delegates, or the Resident Commis- sioner to, a select or conference com- mittee.”
Jordan and Banks were active participants in the coup. Jordan, in particular, was texting Mark Meadows with legal arguments about how to toss a wrench into the the certification. We know now that both coup plotters were 100% aware that there was no election fraud and were simply trying find plausible excuses for making Trump President for life.
Irrelevant. It is not illegal to search legal arguments. Was it illegal for the State of Texas to file a lawsuit to the Supreme Court regarding the election? I don’t think so.
The "bad precedent" would be allowing members of the conspiracy to sit in on the investigation. For the same reason we didn't allow Derek Chauvin to investigate the George Floyd's murder, we don't allow Banks and Jordan to investigate their crimes against Democracy.
They are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Try again. To this day there has been no indictment again either of the two. Nor has there been an ethics investigation by the House of Representatives. Weird huh.
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@Double_R
Whether it was right or appropriate for Pelosi to deny Jordan and Banks from being on the committee is a different conversation and perhaps reasonable people can disagree.
I think it’s relevant. If you’re going to not allow people you consider partisan hacks on the committee for the GOP, then Democratic partisan hacks (like Adam Schiff) shouldn’t be on it either.
The fact of the matter still remains that it was the republicans who chose to pull the test if their members and are now using the fact that they have none of their members on the committee as an excuse to disregard everything the committee has found.
Why are they making that excuse though? Because McCarthy can’t have his picks on the committee. Why should Pelosi have any say on who from the GOP caucus should be on the committee. She has the right to deny people, sure, but she’s the reason why Republicans are even allowed to use the excuse.
The point I am making is that every time someone like yourself refuses to acknowledge the actual case being presented on the basis that the committee is partisan you are falling right into their manipulation tactics that could be seen a mile away. It's all about ensuring you stay on their side of the issue without ever having to actually think. Hence the term "thought terminating cliche".
The main reason why the finding of the J6 committee don’t concern me is because it lacks any semblance of cross examination. Everyone on the committee is a partisan hack against Donald Trump. The American identity is founded on the concept of cross examination. The lack of it makes anything coming from the committee a one-sided affair. There’s only one side of the story being told even though there’s always at least one other perspective.
I’ll give you a good example. Look at Ukraine impeachment. When the Judiciary Committee passed the AoIs and held hearings, there was proper cross-ex. Did anyone question the legitimacy of it? Nope.
Without enabling the other side to be shown, you just have propaganda.
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@Greyparrot
The Left lost all credibility after Russia Russia Russia, Impeachment #1, Taxes Taxes Taxes, and Impeachment #2. It’s all political games. It’s the way it has been for years. People now just see it’s a political witch-hunt.
Hillary Clinton still believes the 2016 Election was stolen even after everyone and their moms said “there’s no evidence.” Where’s the committee on her?
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