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@Wylted
If another town member confirms they got their role first, I'll let you off the hook.
You’re the only one who confirmed before receiving a PM… which I still don’t understand why Mikal would do since it’s literally been a day since you signed up
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@Lunatic
@Greyparrot
@Vader
@whiteflame
@airmax1227
Did Mikal ask y’all to confirm if y’all were playing before sending a PM?
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@Wylted
Okay, you are basically confirmed scum at this point. He sent out confirmations before sending out roles. Probably in case somebody dropped out, he didn't want to compromise the game. If GP is by some miracle town, he needs to target you.
I’m not scum, and he didn’t didn’t ask for a confirmation before sending my role. I see literally no reason why he would do that.
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@Greyparrot
Bad coverage is better than no coverage.
No coverage is how there’s a GOP Trifecta in Executive Offices right now.
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@Wylted
Did you get your role PM before confirming you were ready to play?
What? I got my PM yesterday and then confirmed it. What are you saying you did/got from Mikal?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
On the other hand if Wylted was hypothetically scum, what would he have to gain from this move? in that scenario he sees a townie say they got their PM at a certain time and... what? goes after him for a mislynch? when he knows that if one townie got their PM at that time then others may have as well and would back GP up? Doesn't add up to me.
If he was scum then GP for him would be a mislynch target.
The better question to ask is why would a Town Wylted lie about when he got his PM?
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@Wylted
I confirmed it yesterday, I got the role PM today around noon eastern time. I'm sure that I am not the only one. I assumed most of town did, but now I am feeling like that might not be true
So what were you “confirming” if you didn’t get your role yesterday?
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@whiteflame
I’m missing something, then. Why would Mikal mention that he’d sent out multiple PMs this morning if it was just one person who hadn’t confirmed?
Sui and Disc were the multiple individuals. Either way, Wylted had already confirmed yesterday according to Mikal.
Also, we should be able to confirm this. Did anyone receive their PM this morning?
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@Lunatic
@Greyparrot
@Vader
@airmax1227
What are your thoughts on Wylted lying about the time he received his PM?
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@Greyparrot
I also really liked Youngkin's speech where he gave zero fucks to Trump. Youngkin's win without Trump's support is a clear signal that the magic is gone from the Orangeman.
Or it’s just a midterm race where the President’s party declines significantly in terms of voting. In a turnout competition, DeSantis doesn’t even come close to Trump. Media is gonna be nationally demonizing DeSantis anyways. Hell they’ve already begun.
DeSantis should easily be able to repeat what Youngkin did.
I disagree. Media attention wasn’t that high on Youngkin as it was on Trump and as it will be on DeSantis.
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@Lemming
My dad always told me that we shouldn’t give money to beggars. We think they’ll use it for food but it could just as well be drugs.
Instead he advocates for you to go buy them food or whatever they want.
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@whiteflame
That seems pretty explicit to me. Some people did not receive a PM until this morning. That may just have been DD because he hadn't confirmed and Sui because he got recruited late, but it's possible that others weren't sent their PMs until around the same time that DD was confirmed.
Mikal explicitly said 9/10 people were confirming and that the one person that wasn’t was ComputerNerd. So either Wylted didn’t confirm his role and Mikal was lying or Wylted is lying for some reason. Lynch all liars.
That being said, I'm always wary of strange behaviors from Wylted, and he seems to be making a big deal about the scumminess of players on this basis despite the above message from Mikal also implying that messages were sent out before this morning, and given that now three of us have confirmed receipt of these messages yesterday (and I suspect others will confirm as well), I think it's odd that he's still on this tear.Mind explaining why you're still on this, Wylted?
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@Wylted
You must be scum also. Mikal even states he sent out PMs this morning. Maybe he sent scum PMs yesterday
So how’d you confirm your PM yesterday according to Mikal?
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@sui_generis
also how does the ability to edit posts work? are we just assuming anyone who edits is scum or wha
Editing posts = mod-kill
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@Wylted
He claimed to have a role even before PMs were sent out. I got mine this morning.
Wanna explain why you’re lying about the timing of your PM?
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@Lunatic
I doubt what Mikael said is true and I think he sent out the roles already and Sui is confirmed town in my eyes
Doesn’t scum number have to increase converting from a 10 to 11 player game tho?
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@Wylted
DeSantis can’t beat Trump in a primary. Even in Florida, Trump would win against him. Even Marco lost to Trump in Florida and he won convincingly in 2016 on the same ticket as Trump
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@Polytheist-Witch
I've never asked for anyone to be banned. And there's a big f****** difference between posting on a website and not being able to have an abortion because some conservative piece of crap who thinks his/her morality is better than yours gets to tell you what to do with your own body.
If you can’t even stand the person you’re talking to because of their beliefs, you’d ban them in a second. Just admit that you succumb to groupthink beliefs.
You lack the capacity to see a human who truly believes that they want the best for humanity rather than their own selfish reasons (which don’t even exist in this case)
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@Polytheist-Witch
Or they just religious nuts who think they should get to tell people what to do. Just like you want to. Nothing funnier than a bunch of swinging dicks telling women that they have less rights than a state does. LOL
Why are you assuming I have a “dick.” Also, why are you assuming I am religious?
This is the problem. You can’t stand a difference of opinions. You are the type to ban someone on this site because they disagree with you. The irony.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Any woman who thinks they should get to tell another woman what to do with their body is second class. This isn't a matter of pro-life women standing up and saying hey you don't go have an abortion I'll help you they're standing up and saying I don't believe in abortion therefore you can't have one. And if that makes me a bigot I'm fine with it because those women are POS.
Or they’re independent thinkers who don’t conform to your groupthink ideals.
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@bmdrocks21
I bet. It is really beyond parody lol. Everyone of a specific demographic must subscribe to the beliefs they think they should or else they short-circuit
It’s a constant state of denial. Any other opinion besides your own is bigotry, racism, sexism, homophobia, you name it.
I once joined this political chat and sheer amount of radicalization just astonished me. How could anyone live in a community without police officers for example. It’s such a disgrace.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Nope. My experience this type of women have decided a man gets to tell them what to do with their life and because of it you should let a man tell you what to do with your life. They think they're second class citizens and therefore all women are second class citizens. They're betrayers of their own sex and I hope when they get to the other side they f****** pay for it. The whole point to choice is you get to choose to do it or not. If you don't want to have an abortion don't have one that does not give you the right to tell someone else they can't. A born human being has rights, a non-born human being does not and should not. And you can keep saying people are killing children, killing children is illegal and abortion is not killing children.
So any woman that doesn’t agree with your philosophy is automatically a second class citizen?
I can assure you this is a bigoted response and frankly an insult to the thousands of independent women out there who are pro-life.
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@Polytheist-Witch
The problem is the men in those areas don't want women having the ability to make their own choice they want to control the woman's body and they don't want to do anything to help the women after the baby's born.
Some of the most anti-abortion people I know are women. Does that change your perception at all?
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@Wylted
Wow man, those quotes he pulled up are very disturbing coming from you. It's pretty clear you have banned people for being too frustrating. You promised to step down if it was exposed. Be a man and stick to your word. This is true to the essence of what you denied.
I agree. That quote is pretty damning.
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@Double_R
So are they incompetent here, or is it just me?
Both parties are because they primarily consider their interests as politicians before those of the people. Not all do but a large portion do.
I may disagree with Bernie on everything, but he has been consistent in his support for policies because he genuinely believes it helps the people. Schumer on the other hand knowingly tries to pass provisions that voters in his own state rejected.
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@Double_R
Massachusetts was the first state to implement Obamacare, which they touted as a model for the nation and then republicans nominated its architect for the presidency. That didn’t stop them from using states rights as its primary reason for opposing it. Sorry, I don’t buy it.
That’s the problem though. Just because it worked in Massachusetts doesn’t mean it’d work throughout the nation because each state is fundamentally different. It’s just like how voters in New York recently rejected same day voter registration and no excuse absentee voting — two provisions that were in the Schumer and Gillibrand supported in the Voting Rights Legislation that failed last night.
Essentially what I’m saying is that the Constitution recognizes that states and the people living in those states are fundamentally different, and because of that, they have the right to create laws that fit their beliefs rather than the federal government create those laws for them is every situstuon.
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@ComputerNerd
We welcome everyone of all skills.
You should take a look at some previous games in archives to get a better feel for roles, terminology, etc
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I can name you 2 better sites dedicate to mafia right this instant.
So? I like the community and people on this site. Brutal has zero links to Mafia on this site. At least Max does. I trust him/his advisers to promote mafia on this site itself.
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conversing eh ;)I guess that's the term they use nowadays for campaigning
There was no campaigning. Not once did anyone say vote Max. But it did become clear that Max and his advisers care about Mafia on the site and I guess that makes me a single issue voter
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After carefully reading campaign profiles, I vote for Airmax.
My primary reason is that upon conversing with him and some of his closest advisers, I believe that he will Make Mafia Great Again. I look forward to daily games on DART after the election.
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Wait I thought Trump was a Russian agent. Why didn’t Putin take the Ukraine under him?
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@Danielle
I don't see why they should have to wait in Mexico. Many of them are vulnerable and forced to wait in unsafe circumstances there with limited access to humanitarian aid. But I'm glad we can discuss this example of where some humans have very limited rights in this country based solely on what latitude and longitude they exited their mother's vagina and nothing more. Just more proof that we as a nation make shit up about which humans are eligible for certain rights per arbitrary standards that we can and do change on a whim.
It matters in terms of sovereignty of states. If you can convince every nation to get rid of borders then maybe your argument holds merit. However, I’m sure you can see the consequences of eliminating borders outright.
(Also, just think about it for a second. How does it make sense to find abortion immoral regarding a clump of cells with zero understanding of what is happening at all whatsoever, but think sure, send the people and children who trekked 1,000 miles on foot with nothing but the clothes on their backs back to Mexico so we can make sure they are really in danger and not just desperately poor. You're saying that people who literally risk their lives, implying at the very least a life of severe hardship, do not deserve to seek a better life for themselves no matter how desperate they are just because too bad, tough shit? The morality of ya'll is truly baffling to me but I digress).
I’m not going to debate abortion. I will say that there are tens if not hundreds of millions of people who want to come to the United States. Not just from Latin America, but India and Southeast Asia. They make the the journeys too to seek a better life for themselves. There’s only one question: how many do we accept before we say enough? Let’s say 100 million. Well that doesn’t solve the moral dilemma of the 100 million other immigrants. What’s the moral of the story? Everyone wants to be nice but we don’t have the resources to accept everybody and it’s immoral per your own argument to discriminate against people living in India vs Latin America.
I'll just repeat that any immigration restrictionist who doesn't understand or account for this doesn't know enough about our system to have a credible opinion. And if they're not willing to significantly change these barriers and make it a lot easier to immigrate, then the platitudes about "just following the law" are a crock of shit. Some people are more honest about hating/fearing foreigners or wanting the U.S. to become some sort of white ethnostate like the people in Trump's administration, and thett3 who admits he does not like diversity and prefers homogeny. I was asking if there were actually any good reasons to oppose immigration as opposed to the bad reasons I don't care about in the OP. I'm sure there are some. The only ones coming to mind now have to do with infrastructure and welfare. Illegal immigrants shouldn't qualify for social services but legal ones would.
That flow chart is a great way to navigate the system currently. My parents navigated it without even knowing English when they first came here. Hell they didn’t even know what mushrooms were on pizza when they ordered a veggie pizza. If my parents can do it, so can everyone else. They don’t deserve to cut the line because my parents did everything legally.
But let’s not forget the national security reasons of having a pourous border too. Just recently CBP caught terrorists at the border. Eliminate borders and the drug trade skyrockets with cartel violence seeping across the border.
I have no problem with legal immigration. You can go through the process like millions have before. Millions that mind you also suffered in hardship. I have a heart, but I also know that reality restricts us.
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@Danielle
Sure, but asylum seekers should not be met with threats, punishment, detention or immediate expulsion rather than a fair chance to make their case.
The process would be streamlined if there weren’t so economic migrants applying for asylum. I have no problem with granting hearings, but they can wait in Mexico.
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@Danielle
Me: It is legal to seek asylum.--5 seconds of awkward silence--
You can’t seek asylum for economic reasons. I read some statistic where it says only a very small minority (~1%) of people who come to the Southern border qualify for asylum.
The rest are just economic migrants who should be deported.
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Some did, regardless they agreed with that this is bullying and harassment.
Then maybe you should follow it…
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@Mikal
in his mind he's some frail little boy and I'm the jock taking his lunch money. When in reality, he's the edgy kid that is prone to outbursts and that is walking around screaming at everyone they are fucking assholes and then when someone confronts him"but they are mean to me"
Perfectly describes your typical SJW 💀
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I have chatted privately with poeple that agree with me, yes more than one and no it's not feigned. They don't want to become your next victim so they don't tend to fight much towards you or react publicly, which is the exact bystander mentality that is wrong to have when bullying occurs but which I accept they have.
If they were real friends they’d tell you to keep your mouth shut and it’d all stop.
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No. You are the bad guys whether I exercise my freedom to post or not, it's not relevant to you being bad if I stay silent in response.Your position is the entirely irrational one.
His point is that when you stop responding to them and if they continue, they become the bad guys. That’s literally how it works. But your thin skin and ego won’t allow it, so sucks to be you.
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