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@Bringerofrain
Bare assertion, also I think a more important question might be when does consciousness appear and that isn't until at least one month after a child is born.
Consciousness isn’t indicative of life
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@Bringerofrain
Is there a single good argument as to why the morning after pill should be banned or is this really about controlling a woman's body. I used to give some credence to republican arguments and believe them that they actually cared about the unborn child, but I realized when they opposed the morning after pill, that it really was about controlling a woman's body. Republican, explain why you want control of another person's body.
Life begins at conception. Plain and simple
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@Greyparrot
Is bringer Wylted? Cause this is something Wylted would do.
Idk lol. Based on what I’ve seen on the forums Bringer is liberal af which is opposite of Wylted
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@Bringerofrain
All of those came after my accusationThat is an absurd and scummy amount of LOLsSup's 3rd law means we lynch him
Oro said that last game too and I was town lmao
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@Bringerofrain
Look at how pie came after oromagi last game for scum reading him, compared to his reaction here to a claim that somebody day copped him.
Oro was being dumb. This situation is not even close
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@Bringerofrain
I'm just messing with Pie because he seems like he has a good sense of humor. However ask yourself why he is nervously laughing off my accusations instead of just coming after me hard. If he were town he would know I am full of crap about the daycop claim and come after me hard.
I did come at you hard lol
Pie is scum. I don't doubt this for a second. I think he failed my reaction test.
I’m not scum and that was a shitty reaction test, if not outright scummy
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@Bringerofrain
Somewhere between the first and fourth hour. Watch it at half speed bro. Show some effort. If you don't hear it the first time just rewatch and play at quarter speed
A.) Why can’t you just tell me?
B.) Theres not enough time cause DP ends in 2 hours
C.) Youre telling me Warren watched this 4 hour interview and chose the smallest detail making you Cop?
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@Bringerofrain
Sup's 3rd law of Pie with the LOL by the way
So are you joking? Cause that’s a joke lol
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@oromagi
@Speedrace
@MisterChris
Y’all seeing this rn? He had a guilty on me when the game started but didn’t reveal. Now when I claim Beloved Princess he magically says he got a guilty on me.
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@Bringerofrain
Watch this on half speed. They say it real quick on Here somewhere.
I thought you said you watched it. Where is it?
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@Bringerofrain
Ce on man. Like I just picked somebody at random before even opening the DP, because my DP1 reads suck. I just got lucky. Been hinting at knowing all day, while trying to play it cool though
What? You’ve known the entire DP but didn’t say it once? That’s scummy af lol. When you get a guilty tou say you got a guilty. This just screams scum trying to mislynch a beloved princess to get 2 NKd
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@Bringerofrain
Listen to at least 4 hours of interviews with him before calling somebody a liar though
Wanna send me the interview where he says that?
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@Bringerofrain
Maybe warren knows him on a personal level. That stuff usually doesn't make it into interviews
Lol idts. Lemme ask you this. When did you hammer me?
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@Bringerofrain
My justification is that the boxer is into true crime or something
I cannot find any references to Joe Joyce and True Crime lol. You’re pulling this out of your ass
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@Bringerofrain
I am literally the most humble person on Dart, nice try
Ok boomer
What’s ur justification
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@Bringerofrain
I literally day copped you bro
Ya I call bs on that. You’re either lying to get me lynched cause you’re full of yourself or you’re scum.
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@Bringerofrain
This beloved princess thing is such a common scum claim. I am not sure what to say.
???
Idt I’ve ever seen scum fake claim Beloved Princess before.
I wouldn't even be surprised if him and GP are scum together.
I thought you townread GP lol
And this is just a stalling tactic to keep us from lynching either one. Pie's ideal denies us 2 town directed kills and I'm willing to gamble he is not beloved princess.
You’d get 2 town lynches in either scenario. The latter one is with more POE tho which makes it objectively better.
It's a 9 person game, if we can really lose by mislynching pie, losing 2 more town in the following double NP and a 4th town if GP misses his mark.
Grey cannot shoot till NP2. Plus the whole design of my role relies on punishing town for lynching me.
Nobody is designing a game that would allow us to lose 4 townies before we even get to the second DP. Not in a 9 person game.
But it’s not designed that way if you’re believe me or Grey. Grey can’t shoot till NP2, and 2 NKs don’t happen if you don’t lynch me
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@Bringerofrain
Warrens post does imply roles like GP describes will be in the game. Pie just used an intimidation tactic with the princess to make us scared to lynch. Smart move on his part.
So you really want to risk allowing scum to have 2 NPs in a row rather than just having someone you townread kill me tomorrow night and have two consecutive DPs or kill scum? Your choice ig, though it’s pretty dumb
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@Greyparrot
no, i haven't
Could you please do so since your role has some odd mechanics + it helps to see if it’s just me whose justification is stretchy
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Assuming GP is telling the truth, DP1 No Lynch is probably the best course of action
DP1: No Lynch, 7-2
NP1: NK Success, 6-2
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DP2: Lynch anyone but Pie, 5-2 or 6-1
NP2: NK + Vig Pie, 3-2 or 4-1 (LYLO)
OR
DP2: No Lynch, 6-2
NP2: NK + Vig Pie, 4-2 (MYLO)
Both involve only 2 nights of actions for information, but in the latter you just get 2 town selected lynches rather than 1 in the former. The latter would involve 2 No Lynches a row tho.
Thoughts?
DP1: No Lynch, 7-2
NP1: NK Success, 6-2
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DP2: Lynch anyone but Pie, 5-2 or 6-1
NP2: NK + Vig Pie, 3-2 or 4-1 (LYLO)
OR
DP2: No Lynch, 6-2
NP2: NK + Vig Pie, 4-2 (MYLO)
Both involve only 2 nights of actions for information, but in the latter you just get 2 town selected lynches rather than 1 in the former. The latter would involve 2 No Lynches a row tho.
Thoughts?
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@Greyparrot
I am even night VIG plus a random message goes out to a random person, town or mafia, that has to confirm the kill.
Did you ever post your justification?
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@whiteflame
Not saying it doesn't work at all, just saying I don't have to squint that hard to understand my own.
Gotcha. Ya it’s honestly one of my pet peeves. I strive to make justifications good in my games and because of that it takes a while to make em
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@whiteflame
The description is pretty thorough. The link to my role kind of works - it's not perfect
I mean if you think hard enough mine kinda makes sense. I’m the champ of Cruiserweight hence the Princess and I’m a promising threat to Fury (the top dude) hence the beloved.
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@Lunatic
if grey agrees to vigging pie tonight, I am okay with lynching whiteflame. His last post didn't do much in the way of alleviating my concern of him.
I’m fine with having Grey Vig me, but just for the record I am town
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@Lunatic
My math in post 225 was off but the conclusion still equals lylo. DP1 mislynch pie, mafia 2 night kills, grey mis vig, for a 3 v 2 (assumign 2 scum standard set up for 9 players). Again this is at dp2. Pie's role definitely contradicts greys more than helps it, and pie should have picked this up if he was town.
Grey’s role brings it at MYLO if we mislynch here anyways but my role allows for two nights of actions
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@Lunatic
Claiming beloved princess is the quickest way to completely invalidate any pro town use that role has.
Obviously lol, which is why the whole wagon on me was retarded and I’ve been defensive lol.
It seems like pie acknowledges this since he claims he was trying to soft claim a power role (I also didn't pick up on that, unless you count the part where he was calling supa a little princess).
Well that was the soft claim to my role for the future. But throughout the DP I always said I could be scum or power role, emphasis on the latter. Scum would know based on the law that I’m a power role.
But under pie's own logic, if he was town, I think rather than full claim he probably would have just said something like "I am a powerful role and you would regret having me claim" or something like that as he has done in the past as town.
I actually claim pretty easily unless it’s blatant case of hypocrisy.
The willingness to claim while acknowledging that it makes him useless seems like he was preparing this claim as a fake claim, especially re-reading the princess comment towards supa. As town he had no reason to soft like that either. Hell, even lying about your role might have been better at that point.
I don’t like lying about roles lol cause it’s sus af if I survive later on. That’s how I got Seventh lynched in the Live Mafia game.
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@Lunatic
Unless grey vigged a townie, we mislynch day phase one, you are night killed, skip a day, another night kill, then we are in 2 v 3 mylo DP2 lol. I think your claim goes more in the way of contradicting greyparrot than balancing it.
You’re misunderstanding my role. Only if I get lynched does 2 NPs occur. Otherwise it’s just days.
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@Lunatic
@Greyparrot
@Vader
@whiteflame
@oromagi
Willing to consider it, but given that we are now at L-2 (must've misread the votes), I'd like to see Pie's response. I'll put him at L-1 if he's intransigent.
I’ll just full claim.
I’m Oleksandr Usyk. I’m the Beloved Princess. Essentially if I were lynched, the next DP is skipped (2 NPs would occur in row) but if I was killed in the night, the next NP is skipped (2 DPs would occur in a row).
In terms of justification it’s virtually nonexistent explicitly. Just said I was the cruiserweight champion but in the heavyweight category I’ve been mediocre but a promising threat to Fury.
I’m like 99% sure my role was designed as a balance to Grey’s role especially in a 9P game. It’s why I’ve been hinting so hard I have a power role, so hopefully scum target me.
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@Lunatic
iLikePie- His interaction with bringer seems scummy to me. He initially seemed to ignore bringer's FOS on him, and was all too eager to forget about it when bringer switched to supa.
When did I ignore Bringer’s FOS on me lol? Bringer only FOSed Supa for lurking which I agreed with.
He only brings it up again after bringer revotes him, asking people for opinions about it while STILL not forming his own about it.
I actually did in my lengthy discussion with him. If everyone else sees it as a nothingburger then maybe I’m just overthinking it.
I care more about pie's thoughts on bringer apparently "Pushing him for nothing" than I do about others. It's like he's throwing it out there that it's scummy to see if anyone will bite, but not wanting to put his money where is mouth it. Which suggests to me that maybe bringer is on the money here. Also the supa push feels lazy and like an easier option for him to push than anyone else. I haven't been posting much either, why am I not being accused of lurking?
Cause you said you couldn’t be active till today, and I have been asking you stuff throughout the DP. Supa just outright ignored stuff.
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@whiteflame
@Speedrace
@MisterChris
Help me pressure Supa for a full claim, cause he’s being a spoiled princess rn
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@MisterChris
Yeah actually why wouldn't you? That's a brilliant scum plan on your part why haven't you done this
I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not lol
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@Vader
I'm not basing my logic off that. It's a part of my reason but not the main reason
What’s the main reason then? You were literally lurking and then said you were lurking cause nothing was going on at that time, which is demonstrably false.
I'm sorry I didn't comment about pizza and lol's which were jokes. Sorry I feel no need to respond to that
Idgaf bout that lol
Lurking is when you don't respond to things directed at you or posts that are relevant. I'm sorry none of the conversation engaged is relevant in anyway
How is Supa’s First Law not relevant to you when your name is literally in it lol. Why do you automatically assume I’m scum when your own law says I could be a power role? That’s literally what I said and you just lurked and ignored it, which comes from a perspective that you know I’m town and you we’re fine with lynching me
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@MisterChris
well hey, that still makes it technically true
Ok let’s assume I’m scum, why would I just not be inactive lmfao. Everyone would assume in Vanilla right?
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@MisterChris
First one is accurate from my experience, second one is not.
They’re both stupid lol. I haven’t been Vanilla in ages except for on Live Mafia, where I’m active regardless lol
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@Vader
The third is a joke the lol. Did you not get it? Are you saying you are scum reading me for that law? I stand by my first law with your behavior and your push of my lynch on a false lurking accusation is extremely desperate to push for a lynch
You literally were lurking tho lol. You chose to stand by your shitty law even when it’s not true lmfao.
You have nothing else besides me lurking and that's the narrative you want to set when it's simply not true. It's clear manipulation
Lurking is literally being online while not saying anything. It’s especially scummy when you’re the point of reference and yet don’t say anything.
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@Vader
Scum. You're buddying off terrible logic looking to push a lynch. Scum
You’re the one using shitty logic lol. Law 1 is retarded, you know it, and didn’t say anything about it, and instead chose to lurk so the wagon goes on
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@Vader
I'm not claiming because I didn't respond to the third and second laws about pizza and "lol's." The first law? I stand by what I said still about the law. Anything else you want to know
So which is it? I’m scum or am I a power role? You lurking around seemed like you agreed that I was scum rather than town
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@Vader
My laws? You mean the 2nd and 3rd which are about lol and deep dish pizza? Yes let me analyze some deep dish pizza
I meant Pie is scum or a power role when he’s active. And Pie uses lol when he’s scum. Both are rather stupid.
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@Lunatic
Hi. Cant post anything substantial really til saturday.
Ik, I just want to hear your opinions before we lynch lol
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I wanna hear from Lunatic before he decide on a lynch. I think Supa at the very least needs to character claim just for lurking and not commenting on the laws part
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Depends on who’s on what side lol
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