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@lady3keys
Because it isn't about doing harm. It is about doing "unnecessary harm". What do I need to protect myself and my family? I need a handgun. I don't need a semi-automatic to do that --- unless the other guy has one as well. What is the minimum needed for a civilian? If they take away my AR-15, I lose nothing. I can still protect myself with my handgun. If they take away my handgun, I lose my protection.We don't ban handguns because we all have the right to protect ourselves. But that right should not extend to unnecessary force. That is going above and beyond our need. It isn't about the number of deaths. Maybe it should be. I don't know. But for me, I need a gun, because a guy with a knife would be too much for me without a gun.
So what you’re saying is that rights should be valued more than deaths? Pardon me but that’s the entire conservative argument. If you cared about deaths then you’d ban handguns, but you clearly disagree because rights supercede those. I could argue the same thing for semi automatic rifles.
I support abortion ONLY IN THE 1ST TRIMESTER (3 months). There is no real brain tissue yet. I wasn't dodging. I separate the terms "life" and "consciousness-capable life". The is just me, but this is what I go by. The brain tissue doesn't really even begin to form (in the cranial cavity) until after the 1st Trimester. So, yes, there is "life", but no, it is not yet "consciousness-cable life" in the first 3 months. So yes, for me, it is not yet human. It is life, but so is a blade of grass. I don't mean that to sound harsh. I just don't believe it is anything yet.
Using that logic a person in a coma should be allowed to be killed. Being conscious or not doesn’t give fundamental rights. That’s just as arbitrary as saying if you’re black you don’t have rights. At the point of conception human life is formed. If you’re ok with ending a human life , your morals are just fundamentally different than mine. The science is very clear. A person doesn’t become a human and gain rights when the baby forms a brain. Scientifically it’s either at conception or after being removed from the womb. Any other definition is contradictory to science.
I believe in handguns. Even though the formal definition includes them, I don't believe Biden does. But I would be just as happy with a revolver if it came to that. I don't want my gun taken away. I just want excessive force gone -- like I said above.
So are you saying Biden is lying about his platform? Handguns kill more. Logically speaking we ban them instead of handguns.
I hope I explained it well enough above. I think there is logic to it. I hope Biden hasn't gone too far. But if he has, I will SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT --- AND HIM IF NECESSARY.
I personally don’t think he knows what he stands for. He’s been inconsistent on almost every issue. Fracking, guns, abortion, healthcare, environment, etc.
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@lady3keys
I'm just saying that if Cancel Culture is something you hate, then choosing someone like Trump, who seems to thrive in that environment, seems counter-intuitive. You have to admit. Trump took criticism to a new level. It was like watching a 2nd-grader, and a bullying 2nd-grader at that. I'm not talking about Republicans here, just Trump.
He was the first one in decades to fight back. And that resonated with voters including. Don’t forget that this whole thing started with political correctness. Trump was the only one with balls to fight back against this. He echoed the sentiments of millions of Americans who suppressed their beliefs because of this political correctness. He was the one that gave us a voice. And in doing show he exposed the MSM that propped up this political correctness.
I just want to be respected again. The world is saying "Welcome back America". Don't you think that means something? I understand (a little anyway) why people liked Trump. He was charismatic and he made politics simple -- chant-able (lol). But the thing is, politics isn't simple. And if you vote based on rhetoric, your vote is misguided --- ON BOTH SIDES!!
I really don’t. I frankly don’t care what other nations think of the United States. What I care about is not getting screwed over in trade deals and defense partnerships. Naturally bringing accountability to those things makes other countries hate you.
Think of it this way. You’re a nerd and the hot rich chicks are always asking you to do your homework for them. You do it because you think they’ll like you, but you never end up getting anything in return. Do do like you but you lose time and effort while they don’t do anything more than just thank you.
But then one day you decide to stand up to them and ask for something concrete in return. Invite me to a party. Do this. Do that. If you don’t, then I will stop doing your homework and your grade will suffer. Naturally they’re going to dislike you, but they have no choice but to accept your terms.
In this analogy, the US is the nerd and the hot rich chicks are the other nations. They rip us off, while giving us little to nothing. When Trump comes, he takes a stand. They hate us, but the deal becomes more fair and Americans benefit.
They need us more than we need them.
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@lady3keys
As I said before, he only wants to stop sickos from mowing down 15 people in 30 seconds. The goal is to NOT to "prevent death", it is to prevent "unnecessary death". If you kill someone protecting your family, so be it. You needed your gun. You did not need an assault weapon. But to kill 15 with a single flick of your finger? THAT IS NEVER OKAY, unless you are in the military and fighting a war. Responsible gun ownership is all that Biden wants. No citizen should ever want or need that kind of fire power.
Again, if you’re wanting to keep one and not the other, why should the one that does less harm be abolished? Logically speaking, shouldn’t the one that does more harm get abolished? You saying oh their dangerous is true but it’s a red herring for the real issue: deaths.
I'm not going against science. Heaven Forbid!!! I love science (especially layman-level quantum physics)! I'm not suggesting a time when life begins. But I do know that it takes quite awhile for the tissue in the brain to even develop (not the brain stem which starts a little earlier). I believe in abortions in the first trimester --- under certain conditions --- incest being foremost among them.
You dodged. You and I can both agree that scientifically birth is either at conception or after exiting the mother’s womb. You’re in favor of abortion. By logic, you support abortion up till the third semester because the thing in the womb is not a human and therefore has no rights and therefore the mother can terminate the pregnancy.
Drawing from federal and state law definitions, the term assault weapon refers primarily to semi-automatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns that are able to accept detachable magazines and possess one or more other features. I, personally, care the most about the AR-15 type rifles. As for Sutherland Springs, that is a ridiculous example because the shooter wouldn't have been there if semi-automatic rifles weren't available to citizens. And if he had gone anyway, the death toll would have been much lower. And the guy who stopped the shooter was a firearms instructor -- not an average citizen. If not, I would have to ask, what was an average citizen doing close to a church, armed with an AR-15?
Thank you for clarifying. As you stated, banning “assault weapons” entails banning guns including handguns, rifles, and shotguns, so either Biden supports that or you don’t. If you don’t support that policy of Biden then you agree he is going to take away gun rights.
Now to Sutherland Springs. The guy who shot up the church wasn’t supposed to own the gun in the first place, but he got it anyways because the government sucks.
As for what the guy was doing with an AR, Texas is an open carry state, but if I remember, it was in his car and he got it and ended up shooting the perpetrator before he could cause much harm.
Again the question is why we should abolish something that comparatively does less harm. It defies all logic.
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@lady3keys
So, I am glad there is a letter going around condemning Cancel Culture with so many famous names on it. But Trump, the President of the United States puts down more people and organizations in 1 day of tweets than most of us could muster in a year. Knowing this, how could Cancel Culture then be the reason that people voted for Trump? Trump seems to embody the worst of what Cancel Culture is.
Trump is the boss. If you don’t do what he tell you to do, you get fired. Simple. You keep your mouth shut and do the job. If you can’t do the job that is being asked, you will be replaced. That is astronomically different than getting fired just cause you’re a conservative Trump supporter lol.
I am interested to know where in Ohio you are specifically from. If you’re in the three counties I mentioned earlier, it makes sense why you see so much support. The shy Trump voter is the reason why the polls were wrong, cause let’s face it: conservatives aren’t going to go out of their way to key your car if you support Biden. Certain Democrats will. How many times has Trump specifically called out the general supporter of Biden and how many times has Biden called out Trump supporter of Trump. Biden called us ugly, chumps, liars, he even called a dude fat. I’m a firsthand witness to cancel culture and what Donald Trump says is not even close to what it is. He calls out career bureaucrats and officials.
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@lady3keys
- Restricting gun rights: He only wants universal background checks and an eventual ban on assault weapons.
Handguns kill more than “Assault Weapons.” Why isn’t Joe banning them if your goal is to prevent deaths?
- Raising taxes: He is ONLY raising taxes on people whose income is over 400K a year (don't know much about corporate taxes, so I won't comment there).
Simply false. He said he’d repeal the “Trump Tax Cuts” which gave 65% of Americans a tax cut. Repeal that and taxes go up, not stay the same.
- Late-term abortion: It has nothing to do with "the balls to try it". They don't believe in it! No one does! (I'm not saying there isn't some wierdo faction out there).
It’s either abortion up till birth or no abortion at all. You can’t set an arbitrary method that goes against science. If you believe life begins after coming out of the womb then abortion should be legal up till the third trimester. The other side is life begins at conception. There’s no scientific argument that life begins somewhere in the middle.
As for restricting gun rights . . . . aren't you SICK of school shootings and Walmart massacres? No one wants to take your gun to defend your home or to make anyone stop hunting. They just want to stop the ability of some sicko to mow down 15 people in 30 seconds. THIS IS JUST COMMON SENSE. Major assault weapons are for the military. That is who they were designed for!
I don’t think you know what an “Assualt Rifle” is. No one wants mass shootings. But that’s all you hear about in the media. How many times have you heard of a gun saving lives? Just take a look at Sutherland Springs, where a man with an AR-15 stopped a shooter.
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@lady3keys
But do you really think that is the biggest reason people voted for Trump?
Yup. Just a take a look at the polls. Horribly wrong. Why? They overestimated Biden’s vote with people that hold a bachelor’s degree by a mile. People either outright lied to pollsters, or hung up after learning they were talking to a pollster.
I’ll give you a case sample: Texas’ 3rd Congressional District: the most educated district Republicans held coming in 2020. The most recent poll conducted by the DCCC showed Biden +11 in that district. Van Taylor the representative was losing 44-42-8. Trump won the district by about 6 points (less than 2016 but not by the margins poll was predicting) Van Taylor won 55-43. In fact, this was the trend in all of Texas. Chip Roy won, Troy Nehls won, Tony Gonzalez won, Beth Van Duyne won. All of the district were Democratic leaning districts per the polls. I’m a suburban resident. I saw two signs maximum compared to the 10-15 I saw in 2018. Why?
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@lady3keys
I'm probably going to regret this, but how have the Democrats betrayed the working class in Ohio?
No reason to regret it. We value civil discourse.
I live in Ohio. I am college educated. But, I really DO want to know what betrayals you are talking about. They must be there and I'm just not seeing them. I am still trying to understand the white working class fascination with Trump (aside from his "public" stance on abortion). It seems to me that Trumpism works well for the rich, but behind the scenes it doesn't seem to really help the working class very much. They still had to work 2 and 3 jobs to make ends meet. He was trying to take away any pretense of an "affordable" healthcare plan (not saying Obamacare was a great plan -- but it allowed for preconditions and was affordable for my mother).
Every coin has a flip side. No one disagrees that we should cover pre-existing conditions. The question is whether the govt should do more than that or let the markets establish healthcare, because market forces are very powerful.
I know a lot of people in Ohio who voted for Biden. But everywhere I went, I saw nothing but Trump signs. People kept saying that Biden wanted to raise taxes. I heard that a lot! But it just wasn't true, unless of course you made over 400K a year.
Well Joe Biden did say he wanted to repeal “Trump Tax Cuts” which gave 65% of Americans a tax cut.
I heard a lot of conspiracies. What I want to know now is the truth. I'm an Independent. I, obviously, voted for Biden. But I really want to know more about these "SHY" Trump voters and why they exist.
It’s simple. Cancel Culture. The average college undergrad is afraid to talk about liking Trump for the fear of losing their jobs, friends, and even family. I’m a college student at one of the most liberal colleges in the nation. I’m genuinely afraid that if I say something about Trump, I will be penalized in terms of my grades. In my Instagram and Snapchat feeds, all I see is liberals saying if you support Trump, unfriend me. I have yet to see a conservative say that. That being said, ofc there are people that are like you that value other people’s judgements. I have friends on the opposite side that are just like you, and I respect them for it. Politics shouldn’t come in the way of relationships.
I truly do not understand. I hope Ohio isn't lost. But Democrats better start paying attention to the white working class.
They really should. The heart of White Working Class workers lies in Ashtabula, Trumbull, and Mahoning Counties. Trump won the first two my margins larger than 2016, and ended up flipping Mahoning County (Youngstown) as well. It’s not so much as a Democrats vs Republican. It’s Trump vs Democrat/Republican/Media.
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@That1User
It already started, sorry :(
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@Greyparrot
@Vader
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@Ayyantu
Let’s gooo
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The DP has started
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Welcome to the Land of Hyrule - a place where many different races live in harmony, yet face many hardships due to the The King of Evil: Ganondorf. This land was corrupted by him, put to waste by him. That is until the Hero of Time restored prosperity to the ancient realm at his own loss: the loss of his friend Navi the Fairy.
You all know the basic rules. No copy pasting from PMs, no editing posts, no talking about the game outside this DP, so on and so forth. For voting, once a lynch threshold is reached, the DP ends, none of the everyone has to be voting bs. I won’t talk about any sort of roles in the DP and I will only answer questions about your role and it’s mechanics in your PM. This is a themed game so there is a thematic split present that can identify. Good Luck! May the Force Be With You! May the Odds Be Ever In Your Favor!
Surviving Players
1. BearMan
2. Speedrace
3. SirAnonymous
4. Lunatic
5. Danielle
6. SupaDudz
7. Greyparrot
8. Ayyantu
9. Crocodile
10. Intelligence
11. WaterPhoenix
With 11 players remaining, it takes 6 players to lynch. The DP will end at 7:15 PM CST November 13th, 2020.
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@Lunatic
I’ll do 11, that’s fine ig
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@Barney
We need one more 🥺
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@That1User
You wanna play?
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Ideally one more 🥺
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@Danielle
What was the logic of night killing oromagi?
Forcing scum to hammer him or something like that. Plus we couldn’t judge what roles others had at that time.
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@Lunatic
Ask Oro, he be ignoring me :(
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Game is ready. One more person and I can start
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@HistoryBuff
Biden has already won
Not officially. The Electoral College hasn’t met yet.
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Bloodbaths coming for Democrats in the House and Senate if Biden is officially declared the next President
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@skittlez09
Kkk no worries
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@HistoryBuff
Pramila Jayapal or ro khanna would be much better able to appeal to people than Nancy Pelosi can.
Will do.
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@HistoryBuff
I'm not certain. I'm not particularly familiar with most congressmen. Someone like Pramila Jayapal or ro khanna maybe? But again, i'm not really sure.
Interesting. Can I here your reasoning?
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@skittlez09
So u gonna play right
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@Death23
People all over the right are saying stuff like that, but they're scant on evidence. My take is they got nothing, and when Trump shows up to court with no evidence he's going to lose.
There were glitches in Michigan that resulted in a person who had lost to win. PA was required to segregate ballots that arrived after Election Day but they may have counted them anyways, which could be illegal. WI may have illegally ‘cured’ tens of thousands of ballots.
Statistical analysis includes Benford’s Law and various other sources of data specifically designed to detect anomalies - anomalies that diverge from those of states not suspected of fraud.
Of course this is not even counting sworn affidavits from a person told to backstamp ballots and a lot of dead voters who cast a ballot in the election.
At the very least, the glitch should be checked out because it’s used nationwide and happened in two separate counties in Michigan - Antrim and Oakland.
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Question for you: besides Pelosi, who should be the Speaker?
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@n8nrgmi
The problem here is whether states violated their own laws and counted ballots that weren’t supposed to be counted along with technology and the fact that there were “glitches” in systems. Plus the statistics seem kind of off if you take a look at it.
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@Greyparrot
Let’s count all the votes
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@Danielle
Well he was only compulsive on odd day phases with NL i.e. NP1 lol (and possibly but unlikely NP3 which I just added just in case it shook things up :P )
I just thought it was fairly out of the blue is all😂
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@Lunatic
You could have decided to win with town then! Haha
Meh, it was do or die. Compulsive Vig is not an everyday role you see😂
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@Speedrace
Never played this, only Twilight Princess, BOTW, and Legend of the Four Swords. If I get a Switch I wanna play it tho/in
You definitely need to play it. Probably one the best games ever created
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Y’all Alive?
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Ping número dos
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I thought it was a bit townsided but ggs
Sign up for my game!!
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@lady3keys
It’s technically not official yet because States haven’t certified and the Electoral College hasn’t met. Once they do and they select Biden, I will be the first to congratulate you.
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