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@Greyparrot
He needs to get a majority in the House and a filibuster proof Senate.The last time that happened, Obamacare was rammed down our throats where they had to make it a law before we were allowed to see what it was.Let's hope Trump isn't like Obama in that regard should 2020 flip the Congress.
People have short memories and don’t understand how the Senate works.
People right now never condemn Obama for shoving down Obamacare down the throats of Americans. Voters luckily destroyed him in the House of Representatives, Governorships and State Legislatures.
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@Danielle
So if Trump has all of this control over Congress, then why did he completely and utterly fail to repeal any of the "Wall Street elite" tax breaks? Explain.
Cause of your side and the fact that it takes time lol
And lol at calling John McCain a "RINO" because he disagreed with Trump. Trump is a fucking RINO.
Yaaaaa no. McCain and Romney are losers who can’t stand that they lost. Trump has brought a lot of the white working class voters that formed the base of the Democratic Party. All you have to look at is Luzerne, Lackawanna, Erie counties in PA.
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@Greyparrot
You forgot McCain.
Oh ya I forgot the biggest RINO of them all, the Hanoi Songbird
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@Danielle
He campaigned on taking down Establishmentpoliticians. Are you saying he can't or that he won't?
I see some dropping like flies. Flake, Corker, Roberts, Donnelly, McCaskill, Nelson. Bushes are irrelevant just like the Clintons. You go against Trump, he’ll make your life hell. Murkowski will be primaried 2022.
Y’all need to take care of the Democratic side. Trump can’t do anything about that 🤷♂️
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Labor died in the UK, it was pretty funny imo
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@Greyparrot
Tell me where Trumpy is going to get support in Congress for abolishing loopholes? Congress is a big business. A monopoly even.
Quick answer - he’s not. So he did the next best thing. Decrease taxes for everyone else. Well, unless you already live in a high tax state like CA, NY, and NJ
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@Danielle
Pie thinks that because someone's net worth decreased, they couldn't possibly engage in corruption. Lol. How fucking stupid.
Then he must be really bad at being corrupt🤓
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@Lunatic
You both asked me my thoughts on speed, which was wierd because I already said I still scum read him. It was wierder that you asked it at the same time.
I never asked you whether only Speed is scum. I’m asking you to comment on which of the scenarios is more likely than the others, especially given Danielle has someone information.
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@Greyparrot
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@zedvictor4
Though some people are more overtly racist than others.
And Trump is more racist? Aight lol. Joe literally called Storm Thurmond one of his closest friends and literally said if you don’t for him then he ain’t black
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@lady3keys
Foreign Policy alone would be better with a paper sack.
Funny how Obama’s DoD Secretary said Joe Biden is horrible on foreign policy matters.
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@lady3keys
New York Times:This time around, he is personally responsible for loans and other debts totaling $421 million, with most of it coming due within four years. Should he win re-election, his lenders could be placed in the unprecedented position of weighing whether to foreclose on a sitting president.
Once again, you clearly don’t understand how financials work. It’s very common for campaigns and businesses to have debt. Think of it like credit card debt. If my networth is one million and my credit card debt is 5k, I’m still rich. Take a business class my friend. It really helps.
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@lady3keys
The IRS said no audit lasts that long. That is an excuse that Trump uses so he never has to show them. He wants to keep the audits going.
You ever going to provide citations?
How long does an audit take?
The length varies depending on the type of audit; the complexity of the issues; the availability of information requested; the availability of both parties for scheduling meetings; and your agreement or disagreement with the findings.
Maybe you can blame Lois Lerner and Hussein for weaponizing the IRS against conservatives
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@lady3keys
I did triple-check this one, but it was simply 3 different reporters from 3 different sources . . . so maybe not much help.
You don’t even have his tax returns lol. NYT refuses to release the records they supposedly obtained. You clearly don’t have a Business degree and don’t know how accounting works. Maybe take a class about it first rather than listening to the word of 3 “journalists” who probably haven’t done accounting or even math since college
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@Greyparrot
All of this may be true, but there is no possible way a TV reporter will reliably tell you what Trump's assets are.
Conveniently ignores Democratic Supermajority Senate in 2008 with Democratic Speaker, with a Wing-Man as AG and then says Mitch and Barr work for Trump. Pelosi is a Goddess. At least HB admits he’s a liberal rather than a “moderate” who just hates Trump for while loving Obama who did the exact same thing
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@lady3keys
Despite all this, he is over 400 million dollars in debt.
Citation? Last time I checked he was still worth a couple billion. Down from 2016 mind you. Only President in modern history to have his net worth decrease. Corruption my ass.
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@lady3keys
Joe Biden is simply a very GOOD man. He is experienced, intelligent, QUALIFIED, caring and decent. He is also in his 70s. So is Trump. Joe talks slowly and makes mistakes because of his stuttering problem, a problem that he has always had and will always have. Why would you use this as an argument of any kind?
Lmao you clearly didn’t bother reading what I wrote about Joe Biden. Experienced in being racist. Intelligent in being horrible at foreign policy. Qualified at putting black people in jail. Caring enough to fondle little girls. Decent to touch married women in inappropriate ways.
Joe never had a stuttering problem lol. You can watch any of his speeches in his time in the Senate. Hell you can watch his debate with Paul Ryan.
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@lady3keys
Are you kidding? That may have been true in 2016, but not now. Trump blames the democrats for EVERYTHING. He is constantly screaming that he won't fund democratically governed states in the stimulus release bill.
Why should a taxpayer from a state that managed their budget like South Dakota pay for the the deficits of a corrupt state like Illinois. Fun fact, a majority of the last 5 governors of IL have gone to jail on corruption charges. As for your concern about the states, why should they even be a question. I thought the money should go to the people right?
He says COVID-19 is only rampant in America because of democrat-led states.
No, he says the economies of Democratic led areas are garbage because of the lockdowns for example in PA, MI, and NC. Lockdowns, according to the WHO whom you idolize said lockdowns shouldn’t be the primary method of stopping spread.
It is HIS rhetoric that put the Michigan Governor's life at risk . . . and still he stoke the flames of hate.
You mean the Anarchist who hates Trump? Bet you didn’t know that huh?
If one of his republican senators says something he doesn't like, he calls them a democrat.
Ya and Democrats are chastising Dianne Feinstein for calling the ACB hearings as one of the best. Trump is entitled to his opinion just like you are. And frankly RINOS and DINOS do exist.
He called Dr. Fauci a democrat, which he is NOT.
Prove it.
He makes half the country (anyone who is not a republican) feel unwelcome, unsafe and unfunded.
Ya that’s how Joe Biden and the Democrats make us feel. Defund the police in any capacity = unsafe. Abolish ICE = unsafe. Legalize illegals upon the millions and keep doing that in a never ending cycle. We dealt with Hussein for 8 years.
He blames EVERY failure of the republican-led Congress on the democrats.
You clearly don’t know what the filibuster is. Frankly I don’t think you understand how government even works, nor do you have the knowledge of Supreme Court precedents and judicial doctrines.
He doesn't even take a little of the blame. It takes 2 political parties to reach an impasse, not 1. Again, WE ARE ALL AMERICANS, not just the republicans.
And Donald Trump will win historically Democratic area with white working class workers who formed the backbone of the Democratic Party for the last 3 decades. You don’t even argue Trump’s policies. Your entire argument is Trump as a person is bad. Let’s talk policy cause actions speak louder than words.
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@Greyparrot
I personally loved Joe calling a voter fat and calling another a lying dog faced pony soldier
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@lady3keys
And he seems to HATE everyone who isn't a republican.
This is just a lie. He won because of white, working class Democrats
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@lady3keys
Trump:“I see disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that."
Thanks. Trump did not tell Americans to inject bleach. He asked a question. Then again you seem to disregard sentence structure and follow CNN talking points even after a “fact-checker” your side seems to agree with says it’s false.
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@lady3keys
You should get your story straight. That was the wife of the WRONG "dude" who had the same last name as the guy who REALLY TOOK THE SATs.
Once again, please provide citations. I don’t know what you’re trying to hint at. And please respond to everything Joe has said and done.
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@lady3keys
Wow! You do realize that you ALWAYS post right after Greyparrot. And you ALWAYS agree with him. And you ALWAYS "parrot" him. But you probably haven't noticed. I mean you "can't get it in the ears of people who don't want to listen --- sadly".
We’ve provided the facts. This is the third time I’m asking you: provide the quote where Trump told people to drink bleach.
Greyparrot and I disagree on a lot of things. The GOP is a million times more diverse than the Democratic Party will ever be. We say why Trump is good and Joe is Bad. You just say Orangeman bad.
On a side note you haven’t bothered to respond to the blatant racism and ignorance of Joe Biden.
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@Greyparrot
There's an entire Politifact article debunking that CNN fiction.
Can’t get it in the ears of people who don’t want to listen sadly
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@lady3keys
No, he said they should inject it.
You ever going to provide quotes or just keep repeating MSM talking points?
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@Greyparrot
Not sure why we can't ban privately owned tankswhile we are banning guns.
Not sure why we can’t ban privately owned fighter jets either.
Dude bought a MiG in the 90s
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@Lunatic
That said, we should use the full extent of the day phase and probably get the rest of the roles (not characters) from the players since power roles are out. We should have some decent POE to work with then knowing theres 3 mafia.
I disagree. We have time to do that tomorrow before it is MYLO or LYLO assuming you’re telling the truth and you don’t end up dying
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My question wasn’t even close to what GP asked
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@Lunatic
Woah why does this feel really wierd to me that you guys both asked the same question at the same time basically. Almost like mafia communication where it was discussed to ask me that but you didn't know the other one was gonna do it.
This is contrived af from Lunatic lmao
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@Lunatic
Do you believe either Speed of BM are scum and if so who/why. Both are scum, or both are town?
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@Danielle
Any thoughts on the course of action I mentioned?
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@HistoryBuff
we know that a republican politician says there isn't. We also know that the most likely explanation is that it is a Russian disinformation campaign.
So the DNI is lying along with the FBI. Ok.
to comment on an ongoing investigation before it is completed to benefit your own political faction? Yeah, that is super biased.
Or he’s trying to tell the truth while Adam Schiff lies his ass of that this is a Russian campaign without any sort of intelligence.
what? no they wouldn't. The FBI is not supposed to comment on ongoing investigations. That would make them as guilty of political game playing as right wing politicians like to say they are.
Yaaaa just like how Jim Comey said they’re investigating Hillary’s emails right before the election right?
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@HistoryBuff
true, but you don't seem to understand. lets a say a women is murdered and the husband had means, motive and opportunity. But there is no direct evidence to prove he did it. Saying there is no evidence he did it is an accurate statement. But it would also be an accurate statement to say that a crime was committed and the husband is the prime suspect. It depends on how you want to spin the available facts.The story about how Giuliani got this info is super suspicious and highly unlikely. he has admitted to working with a known Russian operative. he has means, motive and opportunity. So while the FBI may not evidence the Russians gave him the info, it is still the most likely conclusion. It has all the hallmarks of a russian intelligence operation and the version given by Giuliani makes little sense.
Glad we agree that there is no evidence right now that this is a Russian disinformation campaign. I didn’t know you could predict future.
I said he presented information in a biased way.
How is it biased to lay out a fact that there is no evidence of it being a Russian disinformation campaign lol. If the FBI thought DNI was lying then they would say it. The fact they didn’t shows they agree.
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@HistoryBuff
again, you are attempting to misdirect. I am talking about assault weapons. I never said handguns need to be banned. They need much better regulation though.
Handguns kill more people but assault weapons should be banned. Nice logic my friend. You’re just undercutting yourself
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@n8nrgmi
does anyone dispute that trump says things that are racist?
does anyone dispute that biden says things that are racist?
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@BearMan
Bruh Speed just said I was town. If Speed is town, I am town. If I'm scum, then Speed is also scum, simple as that.
I said I’d trust him more than you. Its perfectly logical you’re both Town or both Scum
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@Danielle
Nah. I'm finding it more and more hard to believe both Speed and Bear are town. I feel like Speed had better targets than Bear as well. At least one of them is scum imo, but I don't wanna harp on that cuz it'll appear tunneling and because it may limit or direct where this day phase goes which isn't my intent. I'd like to hear from other people. Some are being too quiet.
I’m willing to trust Speed more than BearMan just cause he claimed a cop. Trackers as I noted last DP can scum affiliations and it would be perfect cover similarly to a Mafia Roleblocker claiming Town Roleblocker.
The best course of action we can commit to imo is confirming that Lunatic is indeed town because lynching him would confirm him as town since he’s immune. Furthermore with him stating that his life is dependent on another individual possibly committing to three deaths tonight could put us at LYLO (worst case)
Right now if what Lunatic says is true, it’s 7-3
No lynch and only one death in the night puts us at 6-3 giving us room for lynching. That’s best case scenario. A meh case would be a mislynch and one death in the night which would be MYLO
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@Greyparrot
We were talking about guns in my college class and I basically forced all the liberals to admit you’re not solving the problem per your own logic unless you ban all guns. It was pretty fun. The teacher who has a PhD didn’t even know what incorporation as a judicial doctrine was. I was ded
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@HistoryBuff
basically, he said that they didn't have evidence it was russian misinformation. That doesn't mean it isn't russian misinformation, just that the evidence hasn't been found yet. He shouldn't have made a statement at all until they had evidence one way or the other.
Lack of evidence means no evidence genius.
just to provide some context. DNI Ratcliffe is not an impartial intelligence official. He is a republican politician and political appointee by trump. He was originally rejected for the job of DNI because it was felt by many in the intelligence community that he would politicize the office and that he had lied about his background in his application for the job.
Eric Holder was Obama’s wing-man and he was AG
So, coming from a man who was rejected for this exact job because he would politicize it and lied about stuff, why would we take him at his word when he is busy politicizing his job, exactly as intelligence officials said he would?
So DNI lied and the FBI lied? Ok dude, keep living in your bubble
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@HistoryBuff
ARs have been used in hundreds, if not thousands, of mass shootings.
You’re actually high lmao
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@HistoryBuff
man, you are really bringing the lies today.... I specifically said I am not talking about banning all guns. How did you take that and somehow read the exact opposite?
Nice dodge. Why is the issue about ARs when Handguns kill more people? Logically you should be talking about banning handguns no?
Logically according to you it would stop killing right?
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@HistoryBuff
ok, but those are sort of parallel issues. I have already said that. More control is needed on handguns too. But no, the end goal is not to ban all guns. That is a lie the NRA and fox news tell people to scare them.
So you want to ban ARs and Handguns? Cause if they’re parallel they’d have the same solution right ?
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@HistoryBuff
please provide a source for thatSure:
DNI Ratcliffe said 2 days ago it wasn’t. FBI spokeswoman said “we have nothing to add at this time to the October 19th public statement by the Director of National Intelligence about the available actionable intelligence.”
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@HistoryBuff
no one has said they want to ban all guns. that is a lie. I certainly don't want that. We need gun control, not outright bans. Hunting rifles and shotguns are things that people need for hunting or defending their home. But they absolutely do not need an AR to do that.
Handguns kill more than ARs
The end goal is banning guns. If your problem was stopping deaths you’d ban handguns not ARs
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@HistoryBuff
how do you figure? lots of weapons are banned. The US government already picks and chooses which weapons are legal and which aren't. We are just talking about moving that line.
Moving the line to banning all guns. Got it.
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@HistoryBuff
how do you figure? lots of weapons are banned. The US government already picks and chooses which weapons are legal and which aren't. We are just talking about moving that line.
Moving the line to banning all guns. Got it.
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@Danielle
Agree but I was wary of DP 1 claims as well. It would be very unfair for mafia to have no idea of what's going on DP1. They could easily get caught not knowing theme or w/e when pressed for a claim, so I'm confident Supa gave at least 1 fake claim unless he is a bastard mod.
I don’t remember Supa giving us a fake claim in Naruto Mafia. Maybe I’m wrong tho, you’d have to asked Ragnar and BM
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@oromagi
There's no world where BIden will prove as blatant a corrupt whore as Trump regularly confesses to be. And going back to Putin for another round of doctored emails is just way less convincing this time around.
Well actually DNI, FBI, and DOJ said it wasn’t a Russian disinformation campaign so 🤷♂️
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@oromagi
same as every place else, on fire- worst fires on record, constant smoke, peak Corona, voting early and locking doors
How are Penguins?
You are in school in LA, right? How’s LA? Good month for sports fans
Nah lmao I’ll DM you where I go to school
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