ILikePie5

If your caught up now and know I'm lyncher why claim?

Yes. I am Danielle

Still think pie is a good option though, the whole catching up thing and pretending like he knew my day role cop was "oppertunistic" is a little "oppertunistic" if you know what I am saying. He was probably caught up already in the mafia PM.

She probably an old user who idntified as male, but I'll refer to her as a female if that's her preferred pronoun now.

Fine by me. You caught up yet? Have you posted your reads?

I have a null read on pie, drafter scum read him and we agreed to a sort of comprise. Post 258 iirc.

You didn't read my post. I just said that considering all manners of unlikely possibilities for the sake of considering them is anti-town. 

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3593/post_links/153273

Sorry man, I was third party lyncher, you were my target. Your analysis about your link to tchalla was kind of right but in the opposite way lol. I was half considering just coming out clean about being 3rd party lyncher and taking the L, and helping town get 1st, and being okay with 3rd (lyncher role is way too easy IMO, and this kind of a win is void of bragging rights or challenge). 

I am the black panther, a 1x day role cop! I just used my role on greyparrot and found out he is a yakuza!

He claimed WIN WITH TOWN

This would have to be a Jester role

He is lying about his role, its bastard win with town, it doesn't make sense

I assume pie is staying study as well, because he knows what the other lynch option is

So is the case against pie. He is inactive so he should be policy lynched 

Pie - has pledged to be active, but I am skeptical. Inactive players are hard to read and are inherently anti-town regardless of affiliation. At the very least locking him into a claim would be beneficial, so we can factor that information into POE analysis later on without requiring him to be active at a crucial moment.

When the DP ends I will co sider switching my vote if that is the o ly way to secure a lynch, but I would o ly switch my vote to somebody not on the GP wagon. 

VTL PIE

I have played in more games than you. Just trust me on this. Doesn't matter though. Even if my reason ing is imperfect it does not change that he is scum. 

Ok and in this scenario where does that put Zemo? TP at BEST. always lynch TP. 

And you had to think that these "other" thematic possibilities are VERY likely in order to just come out and defend Grey like that. There is no reason to believe that UNLESS you have inside knowledge before hand that bad guys could go town/good guys could be scum. 

Still not enough? Still unreasonably convinced that GP must be scum? Okay let's say that he is somehow scum despite everything I just said. In the scenario where GP is mafia there are still two other mafia players in the game. What you should do is focus on trying to figure out who those players are and wait for GPs suicide timer to run out. Then if he doesn't off himself we can lunch him under the 'lynch all liars' policy.

Agree. What posts specifically make you think it is more likely to be pie than Bullish? I am pretty null on pie at the moment though I have not yet done my second re-read.

I'm inclined to put Bullish, Supa, and Single in my town pile.

That leaves Pie and Sir.

Possibility One - Town Bullish comes in on post 61 and sees GP claimed a character that is an antagonist then votes for GP after thinking to himself "Yes, it makes sense that scum would claim their actual character under no pressure whatsoever and GP claimed an antagonist character so GP must be scum." This seems unlikely due to the fact that this line of thinking is retarded and Bullish is quite well known as a decent mafia player. Notice also how post 61 advocates for the DP to be as short as possible. Again, unlikely to come from someone known as a decent town player.

Possibility one: There is some unknown factor that balances the game despite this town disadvantage.

1) Why has nobody asked GP to claim what day he will commit suicide on? This should have been the very first question after a suicidal claim. Do I have to do everything myself?

Wait WTF 7 PAGES DEAR GOD FUCKING WHY?!

It won't end until everyone votes anyway, so no harm in placing the vote. Technically a tree could fall through your house while you sleep and kill you, and it would be irresponsible not to vote prior to the event occurring

I claimed because Sir wasn't believing this would be bastard and you yourself aren't claiming it either

Ok, I didn't think of that. That's a good point. However, since when does GP do gambits?

As long as you guys lynch greyparrot it should start us off ahead enough for it bot to matter that much. I am very suspect of pie though for bot voting yet

Are you out of your mind? Why are you claiming? If both of you are town, then scum will target you for the NK and we'll lose two players instead of one.

How does WIFOM play into this? Either he tells the truth and he's town, or he lies and we lynch him because he didn't die.

Because he has a variation of the lover role and I am his lover. Don't even care if I admit this because we caught scum early enough to overcome the disadvantage 

I would. I don't see how knowing that can help scum at all, but it will help town.

Speed doesn't know enough about modding to make a bastard role. No offense but it is his second time modding

Do you want to know the day I kill myself? 

Also grey is definite scum. His role and Stupak's role would not both be on the same team..

A suicidal player dies after a certain point. Nothing can stop them from dying.

It's beginning to feel like Speed slapped this game together at the last minute without really thinking about it.

I'm not sure the theme would actually be protagonists vs. antagonists. While that is the most obvious, there are other themes that could be done.

How frequently is it necessary to resort to a proxy lynch? A random vtl doesn't seem like a good strategy. Of course, we would gain info, but I'd prefer to avoid a random lynch if possible.

Atm no one because I haven't seen everyone right now to claim a proxy

What do you mean by proxy vote?

Who's Helmut Zemo? I've seen the Avengers movies, but I haven't seen Civil War yet. (I know, I know, I'm watching them out of order).