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@Barney
Contextually, Press was answering a question from a noob (me) in #84, so I wouldn't get too hung up on the contradiction. Someone can explain game theory, and disagree with using it.
It was a complete 180 lol
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@Barney
I was Mafia that game, and when not all Mafia members even joined the scum chat, it's a problem.
They weren’t inactive tho...
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@oromagi
we seem to be assuming that he made some kind of rookie mistake by outing as vig but my read of speed is that he is much smarter and more careful than that kind of move. I strongly doubt that speed is vig but that does not inform the question of scum.
Either way, he’s dead. If he’s lying he gets lynched or shot by the real vig himself or mafia.
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@Lunatic
ive got my vote down, lets lynch rag today and continue activity tomorrow.
No, let Speed kill him and confirm his town status
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@oromagi
I wish greyparrot would just admit that he is scum so we could move on to NP.
Can you please elaborate?
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@Greyparrot
@drafterman
@oromagi
@Speedrace
@PressF4Respect
What are the benefits of random lynching?If we lynch randomly, then the odds of hitting scum will be (at most) 40%.Doesn't seem like a good strategy at all from an analytical perspective.Can you explain why we should random lynch?
This directly goes against what Press said in Post 84
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@warren42
That said I still think he's scum
Which is irrelevant since Ragnar is going to die.
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@warren42
Why not both?
I’m fine with that as long we as town establish who he shoots. Either Ragnar gets lynched and someone dies or someone else gets lynched and Ragnar dies. Either can confirm Speed.
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@warren42
It's confirmed that there is a vig, so no, he could theoretically lying and we still have two deaths.
Speed can’t lie. If he kills Ragnar he’s town. If Ragnar does not die, he’s not town and we lynch. Plain and simple.
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@oromagi
Why isn’t last to show sufficiently random?
Premise was established a long time ago when people were already active, therefore not random
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@PressF4Respect
Well I guess we should lunch Water because he hasn’t gotten a chance to be online during this game.
This and post 84 seem like a half a** attempt to lynch Water.
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@warren42
Yes. Though I'm always in favor of D1 lynches.
D1 lynches are a must. Speeds up POE so towards the end it’s easier to identify scum
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@Barney
Granted, the last game I played (and only forum game) had a lot of MIA scum.
Link please?
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@drafterman
@Barney
@oromagi
Any feedback on post #212?
It’s stupid. My inactivity is due to the fact I’m in/was in DART Survivor, Supa’s QF, DD’s Game.
Combine that with school and the last two weeks before finals with all the tests, I literally don’t have time. I’ll re-read and respond to everything today.
At best inactivity is a policy lynch if the person doesn’t respond. But I can and I will. This wagon is premeditated
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@warren42
We should not be lynching Ragnar. Let speed confirm himself
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@Vader
VTL Speed
Speed is smart man. There is NO WAY in hell that any scum partner would let him get away with that if he was a noob. Speed can't be that idiotic and claim only town power role on the FIRST DP!My guess this is a noob and pro team, meaning that Speedrace and Ragnar could easily be on a team.
This is stupid, Vig is easily confirmable. If he’s lying there won’t be 2 NKs tonight and we lynch him. It’s suicide for scum to claim vig. This screams opportunism to me
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@warren42
Yeah I think Lunatic was getting paranoid or something. I dunno.
Abnormal of him don’t ya think?
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@Lunatic
If you were the vig, would you forfeit your kill NP1?Thoughts on Ragnar wanting to sincerely lynch the person who posts lasts?
1) Depends. If I feel strongly like 75% that person is scum, I’d shoot
2) Think he’s just a noob lol
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@HistoryBuff
I have never seen anyone say any crime that Joe or Hunter could have committed.
Ya if you only get news from Leftist source that might happen
There simply is no evidence that they did. But if they had, the legal way to proceed would be to get the FBI or congress to investigate. Asking the president of Ukraine to do it is a crime.
If the crime occurred in the Ukraine, we have no jurisdiction over it. And that’s what happened.
The problem is the profit motive. If trump had asked about some random person he had no benefit to investigating, then that would not breach election laws. But because he did stand to directly benefit from it, it is illegal. It could still break the other laws he is guilty of breaking though.
See this is your problem. You’re under the impression that there was a motive behind it — it’s a predisposed bias. A normal unbiased person would see Joe Biden as a problem worth investigating.
Of course not. that is what law enforcement agencies are for. Trump chose not to do that though, so he broke the law.
Once again: not under the jurisdiction of the U.S. if the crime occurred in Ukraine.
And they did exactly what they were supposed to. they asked the FBI to investigate. If trump had done that we wouldn't be having this conversation. Instead he went and committed some crimes by trying to get the Ukrainians to smear his political rival.
Still using investigation for political benefit. You’d be saying oh how could he investigate a potential challenger. Don’t worry, when the FISA Report comes out Monday, we’ll just have political the wiretapping was.
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@HistoryBuff
"There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."He explicitly asks him to look into biden and his son. That is asking for dirt.
Or asking for a legitimate investigation into a crime. For example, if Trump replaced Biden with me, you wouldn’t we saying “dirt.” Your problem is the coincidence that the person is a candidate running from President. Even then they’re just as much prone to investigation. Just because you’re running for President doesn’t mean you get a pass. If this were the case the entire Russian investigation should be null and void. It started while Democrats were in office against a candidate running for President. Hold yourself to the same standard buddy.
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@PressF4Respect
That's not how you calculate itHere's the formula:𝑛!/(𝑟!(𝑛−𝑟)!)n is the total number of items in a setr is the number of items in a sample
Why the hell are we doing math during Thanksgiving Break?
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@Lunatic
well in that case I am also bulletproof, but my vest has only a 50% chance of working
Hmm. Well I’m a 50/50 doctor so this makes no sense
VTL Lunatic
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@PressF4Respect
Please do town a favour and VTL UNVOTE
Gladly....wait, why haven’t you done it?
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@drafterman
He’d have to convince avoid to lynch me. It’s not auto win.
No. It takes 2 to tango. Wylted can’t be lynched cause you lose. Only Avoid or you can be lynched. Now if Avoid comes out as town, then Wylted isn’t gonna lynch him cause of TP risk. If they lynch you he wins either way. Or there’s no lynch and Wylted shoots you.
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@drafterman
Mafia wincon is to be 50% of the total players, including any TP. A joint win is still a win and not against his wincon.
With the former, yes I agree. But Wylted ain’t gonna Joint Win lol
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@drafterman
Or, rather, why couldnt I joint with Wylted by lynching Avoid?
Why would Wylted want to joint win? It goes against win condition.
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@drafterman
From my understanding a 1:1 Town to mafia ratio results in a mafia victory
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@drafterman
Or, rather, why couldnt I joint with Wylted by lynching Avoid?
Cause Wylted’s an a**hole
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Winners: Mafia
Losers: Town and TP
Wylted - You are the Actress (Mafia)
Drafter - You are the TP Alien
Speed - You are the Medium
Avoid - You are the Bleeder
Press - You are the Roleblocker
Water - You are the Sane Cop
NP0:
WP inv Drafter
Press RB Water
Drafter Probes Speed
Wylted kills and actresses Water
NP1:
Drafter probes Wylted
Wylted kills and actresses Speed
1:1:1 result leads to Mafia victory since town can’t lynch him and Alien can’t lynch him
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@disgusted
Can someone give him a picture book about Salem?Not too bright.
The US didn’t exist during the Salem Witch Trials 🤦♂️
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@Greyparrot
If I were the Bidens, I would find out why Schiff and Pelosi want to torpedo his campaign by dragging this stupid shit on through the Democrat Primaries.Talk about a danger to democracy...
Ideologically they’re allies. But the progressive wing run by Ocasio Cortez is pushing this to boost Warren/Sanders and screw over Biden.
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@3RU7AL
Who says they do? What are you suggesting?
You’re all over the place dude. Tell us what your take is.
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Official Vote Count:
Press - 3/3 - (Speed, Avoid, Drafter)
Press was lynched. He was innocent. Submit Night Actions ASAP
STOP POSTING
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@disgusted
Which one are you?
What does this even mean
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@disgusted
No! You and anyone who supports the American war on terror.
So Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden too right?
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@disgusted
If you believe everything you read off of Wikipedia you’re delusionalFAR_RIGHT, can you read?
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@disgusted
Well doneThat makes Nth Korea a democracy.Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Is the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea a party?
Even if it is, does it support government takeover of industry?
Answer is yes...therefore it’s socialist
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@disgusted
Anyone who supports the wholesale slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi and Afghan men women and children is much worse than inhumane
Are you talking about Barack Obama and Democrat Party?
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