ILikePie5

Answer my question first.

I have one question for you Pie. If I am scum, who is my teammate?

I'll review all the mech info tmrw. I think we should establish a voting order where the towniest players vote last btw.

Here's a thought:

I notice how last DP, Cerulean went out of his way to say, "The game is not over."

How could the game be over after 2 mislynches in a 7v2?

Unless, it isn't a 7v2. I can imagine a third party survivor asking Cerulean if the game is over (assuming they aren't killed in the night), and Cerulean answering it there.

A 6v2v1 setup would be pretty bastard, but given the fuckery that undoubtedly exists in the setup, I can imagine it being here because Cerulean clearly doesn't know what he's doing here... I think he hasn't quite grasped the rolemad game style yet, from a design standpoint.

I'm really struggling with that.

I think there's exactly one scum in Luna/WF - i.e. never town v town, never paired.

The easy explanation is just that Mharman yoloed last DP and hoped the crazy mech would get him out of it, but it just feels so unlikely?

Which would leave you, but you're cleared by an investigation by at least one townie, unless Luna/WF are both scum, in which case you're town anyway.

So idk. What's your read on Mharman?

Alright. I could see this being a fake claim given that it’s an excuse for you to survive the next NP despite being townread by two results, but as I said before, I’m trusting my Cop result on you for this DP, so I’ll think about this more later.

Also, btw, if I'm scum I just claim a more powerful version of strengthener to make it look like Mharman had to be lying about his results and secure a winning mislynch. The only way I can reasonably be scum here is if I'm teammates with Mharman, which is... something I suppose.

I am in the POE, so I will full claim. I am LD.50, an album from Mudvayne (a hardcore numetal band from the early 2000's who I saw perform late last year and they fvcking killed it). One of their hit songs that made them take off from that album was "Dig", thus I  am a 1x "gravedigger" and have the ability to "Dig up a dead player and use an ability of theirs". I basically only had the option to dig up casey np1, so I used my ability on him and greyparrots seemed like a waste.  I chose his "I am the truth from which you run" ability and used it on pie, figuring it was an investigative role. 

I was told last night after using it that it was a tracker, and thatpie had visited no one. 

I was debating using it between pie and whiteflame, since both were POE for me after last day phase. 

I realized I didn’t ping Austin on that last post, sorry about that.

It’s admittedly more of an attempt to parse what happened. If Mharman is telling the truth, then there’s a role in play from scum that manipulated his result. If that role exists and a Strengthener exists, then either the Strengthener cannot affect it (which makes its non-consecutive use seem unnecessary and the role itself underpowered given that scum have roles that will manipulate regardless) or it can and it failed to do so. If it’s the former, then the balance in this game is especially weird.

I'm non-consecutive strengthener. Nonconsecutive means I can't target the same player twice in a row, not that I can't act two nights in a row (idk why Cerulean made it this way).

I hinted at this pretty heavily DP2.

I targeted Mharman N1 and Luna N2. Mharman because I townread him, Luna because I had the feeling he was softing a strong PR.

My gutread is that some manipulation occurred, which points towards either Luna or Austin as the lynch this DP. Hence those claims are needed.

Alright, I'm going to just straight up claim at this point.

As I hinted back in DP1, I'm Beneath the Skin by Of Monsters and Men, and I'm the investigative JOAT. The justification is that the band improved with this second album by getting more personal with one another, figuratively getting "beneath the skin" of their other members.

I had two shots with it, one that allowed me to see the text of an ability used by the person I was targeting (used on NP1 on Earth, determined that he used his Doc role) and the other was a Cop role (used on NP2 on Pie, it said he was  town-aligned - yes, that's how it was stated in the PM). The former is the reason I didn't sus Earth DP2 (sucks that he's dead), the latter was more of a gut feeling (sorry Pie) that I needed to get clarity on Pie. Unless there's somehow another Cop role in this game, WyIted's flip confirms my role.

As for what we can do now, I recognize that the result I got on Pie could be manipulated, but for now he's my strongest townread based on this result. I'm against lynching him this DP at minimum. That leaves Mharman, Luna and Austin. Before I give my thoughts on who to lynch, I'd like to see full claims from the latter two. I'd also like Pie's claim at this point. Regardless of my result, there's no reason to hold back at this stage.

Is still have no idea how Wylted showed up on my 

I’m glad Austin didn’t answer my question. It was selfish of me to ask that, I was trying too hard to solve this game.

I was asking because I wondered if by some chance, that Austin had an ability that could redirect a night kill away from me, and that Wylted’s miller somehow made him follow scum’s visits.

So, if a Ninja visited me and Austin somehow deflected the night kill away from me, it would show Wylted following the Ninja’s path and showing up on my results.

That was my theory. Anyway, my theory about that one particular plan the scum team could do to keep me alive and save me for a mislynch revolved around Earth and Wylted using a tailor of some kind on Wylted to mislynch me today.

I’m guessing there’s no tailor because I asked Cerulean “What the hell is this setup?” and he said it’s apparently one that’s not going to well for town.

“There are mechanics in this game that may cause Night feedback to be incorrect or missing.”

Nah. Earth has no reason for such a misdirect. If they have no claim ready, it's a dumb risk. Clearly they didn't. Miller looked best in the moment to Wylted because he didn't have time to find something better- all he knew was that he was unlikely to get CC'd since no one SOP claimed it. That's why he chose it.

No mafia team is putting Miller in their potential fake claims if they've spent time thinking about it. And since Wylted clearly didn't spend the time, I do not believe any teammate would have prompted Wylted to claim.

Did any of you visit me last night? Be truthful.

I think you are on the right track here

I think Wylted's claim is bad. Especially yesterday.

Earth asked Wylted to claim last DP. I imagine they'd have a better claim ready if that was scripted; furthermore, Earth wouldn't have needed to pressure Wylted for a claim at all if their teammates.

I think Austin and Whiteflame, to a lesser extent, are town. That leaves you and Lunatic.

Alright. Suffice it to say that, though the Neighborizer claim has me on edge, the Miller claim seems plausible and overly risky enough that I buy it.

I really can't see Earth on a team with Wylted. If Wylted is scum, the teammate is either Pie or Lunatic.

Did anyone else visit Casey?

The role is Miller but I have a 1x neighboring with it as well. I used the neighboring on Casey as inconvenient as that is. 

I legit thought she was scum and I thought if I neighboring her she as scum might be a bit naive so I was planning to make up some lie about being secret scum to get her to confess, but apparently not only was I wrong about her being scum but extremely wrong as she came across as so towny the scum team had her eliminated

That says he’s more likely to do a stupid gambit as town than he is to claim something dumb as scum.

Why not take a shot in the dark for anything other than semi miller if he’s scum? 

I am going to chalk this up to paranoid town. Me and GP are both town TBH and quite obviously so. 

I am good with no lynches today

I think claiming miller or anything similar would be really stupid as scum. I know Pie says Wylted is bad at claiming, but he can’t possibly be that bad.

The other side of the coin is that Wylted would know there’s no miller and it’d be safe, since no one SOP claimed it.

But then why be so hesitant to claim while pressure was on him? He caved once Austin told him to, but the fact that he had pressure on him and did t want to claim tells me he knew claiming what he did would look bad and wanted to avoid it… but that would mean he actually has the role he’s claiming.

Wylted doesn't SOP claim roles iirc, I remember a game where he was Miller and fakeclaimed VT.

Fine I will claim since there is only a few hours left in the dp.

My album is Bad and I am not the opposite of a Miller but the opposite of that.