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@Double_R
You know, TWS is a big Star Trek fan. Isn’t that surprising?
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@ILikePie5
Please point to the US Code where it says the President cannot declassify something by just telling someone without the clearance.
He told someone? Who did he tell? Melania? Stormy Daniels?
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@ILikePie5
Classified documents
Really? Are you sure? What classification were they, Top Secret? Did Biden classify these documents? As VP he had the authority of original classification and declassification in such a case.
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@ILikePie5
The law is unclear in that matter
Bullshit. It’s only unclear to Trumpers.
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“You can hopefully see how the Biden document disclosure differs in both scale and significance. Again, we don’t know all of the details of the Biden document production, so this assessment may change. But there’s no indication at this point either that the scale of information withheld from the government is as large or — more importantly — that Biden or his team endeavored to hide the documents from the Justice Department. There was no affidavit signed by Biden lawyers claiming that the closet at the Penn Biden Center no longer contained any classified documents before such documents were uncovered. There was no effort by Biden to argue publicly that he had given the government everything it wanted even though he hadn’t; in fact, there’s no indication the government was even looking for these documents in the first place”
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@TWS1405_2
Regardless… your rebuttal is moot. The issue is the handling AND authority to even have the documents. Trump was POTUS, Biden was VP. Guess which one had unilateral declassification authority and which one had zero authority to even possess classified documents. THAT is the issue!!!!!!
Wrong again. You don’t know what you’re talking about as usual.
Did Biden as vice president have classification authority? Not only did Biden have the authority to posses classified documents, he had the authority to classify and declassify documents.
Under Obama’s executive order, the vice president has original classification authority. Biden, while vice president, had the right to declassify material if he had classified the material in the first place.
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@ILikePie5
They found the second batch in his garage lmao. Talk about secure
A second batch? A second batch of what exactly?
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@ILikePie5
The President can declassify any material at any point in time. The VP cannot.
Does the President have to do anything to declassify documents?
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“If prosecutors can show probable cause that additional classified documents may be stored at Biden’s home or other properties, they can obtain a search warrant from a judge. In Trump’s case, prosecutors developed evidence that the former president had not complied with a grand jury subpoena seeking return of all classified documents.“
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@TWS1405_2
Nothing was ignored. Trump was told to keep the documents locked in the area in which they were secured. They knew where they were. They didn’t have to raid the place. All they had to do was ask to come over.
Regardless… your rebuttal is moot. The issue is the handling AND authority to even have the documents. Trump was POTUS, Biden was VP. Guess which one had unilateral declassification authority and which one had zero authority to even possess classified documents. THAT is the issue!!!!!!
These are lies. Trump was not told to “keep the documents”. Trump was NOT President when he left the White House with the documents. Trump didn’t declassify any documents (no you can’t declassify documents just by thinking about it) and Trump and his lawyers lied to the archives people and the FBI about having the documents. As usual you are full of shit LCpl Kirk. You have no idea what was found in Biden’s possession because it hasn’t been reported yet. We do know the number and type of documents Trump had mishandled. So stop talking out of your ass.
“If Trump had returned all the missing documents when the Archives first requested them, that would have been the end of the matter. It became a criminal matter “only because Trump and his lawyers delayed at first and then obstructed,” - Mark Zaid
Prosecutors have asked a judge to hold Trump’s representatives in contempt for not fully complying with the subpoena, according to the New York Times.
- Mark S. Zaid is the founding Partner of Mark S. Zaid, PC. He often represents former/current federal employees, intelligence and military officers, whistleblowers and others who have grievances or have been wronged by agencies of the United States Government or foreign governments. Moreover, Mr. Zaid regularly represents members of the media. Of note, Mr. Zaid teaches the D.C. Bar Continuing Legal Education classes on “Defending Security Clearances” and “The Basics of Filing and Litigating Freedom of Information/Privacy Act Requests”. He has been named as a Washington, D.C. Super Lawyer every year since he was profiled in 2009, as well as a “Best Lawyer” by Washingtonian Magazine in 2009, 2011, 2013, and 2015 (issued bi-annually), for his national security work. As the National Law Journal once wrote, “if Agent Mulder ever needed a lawyer, Zaid would be his man
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@YouFound_Lxam
I know you’re only 14 but you spelled Democrats wrong. That must be some school you attend.
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@YouFound_Lxam
So, when there is evidence that Trump might have some unclassified documents at his home, they raid his home, but when there have been multiple cases of unclassified documents at Bidens home, and other things like that, then they don't raid his home?
You know what that's called right?Corruption.
Bullshit. Trump refused to give the documents back and had his lawyers lie for him.
Biden’s lawyers found the documents and turned them over to the archive officials.
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You are a liar. He wasn’t “hiding documents”
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Matt Schlapp, the prominent and powerful Catholic conservative who leads CPAC has been credibly accused of sexually assaulting a male campaign worker.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Dakota is a proper noun (name) . They are capitalized and describe a particular place, person or organization.
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@PREZ-HILTON
What do you think of my suggestion above to replace government spending with some sort of grouped citizen fund for natural disaster relief?
How would you protect this fund from misappropriation?
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@PREZ-HILTON
Laissez-faire capitalism would do a superior job of it. Economic intervention often has negative effects
In a country with LF capitalism, blue collar workers would likely end up half starved and living in a rented trailer home.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Woman is the identity.Female is the biological aspect.
you just undermined your own argument with this statement genius.
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@YouFound_Lxam
The definition of a woman is a biological adult human female. It's not that complicated.
You were the one that defined a woman as someone who can produce an offspring. Now after telling Underdog not to use woman in the definition of a woman you are defining a woman as female. That’s brilliant
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@YouFound_Lxam
It's simple really. If a dictionary has the ability to change the definition of words that we use everyday, then how can we function as a rational society. By that logic the constitution could play into whatever you want the law to be, just based on a couple of simple definition changes. That is how it takes away freedom and rights. And guess where it has happened? Cambridge Dictionary....just a couple of months ago.
Can you think of any other words that had their definition change or evolve over time? Did it destroy society?
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@YouFound_Lxam
And they used the word female in their so called "new definition", but the word female translates to: "of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes." according to the Oxford Dictionary.So how can someone identify as something that they are biologically incapable of being. Of course, men can feel like they are women and vice versa, but that doesn't make you a woman.
You realize there are many women who can’t bare offspring or produce eggs. right? What do we call those people?
This came up in the Supreme Court case for gay marriage when conservatives tried to argue that the purpose of marriage was for procreation.
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The Watergate commission didn't feel the need to spend 800 pages describing a story about a cousin's friend's coworker's story who heard what a driver of a car said. Why? Because it took 1 page to prove an obvious case.
Really? How many pages do you think the Senate Select Committee Report on Watergate was?
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@TWS1405_2
It’s 2023 you dumbass. Not 1945. 🤦♂️
Live long and prosper LCpl Loser
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It's entirely possible they were trying to throw the elections so they got less blame for the predicted recession.
You think that because you’re a moron.
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@Public-Choice
Is Trump still the President?
Is Hitler still the leader of Germany?
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@Public-Choice
step down after losing election.
Is that what he did? Yes, he lost the election but you would never hear Trump say that. He did not step down, he fled to Florida.
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@PREZ-HILTON
That's actually what loyal Americans were doing on January 6th. We had evil people about to take power who would make inflation so high that people are now starving in the streets, they would piss on the constitution and they would start passing mandates to allow teachers to encourage 7 year olds to transition and start the process of getting their dicks cut off.
Ok, I figured you were nuts from your childhood. This confirms it.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Every state funds those things
No, they don’t.
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@PREZ-HILTON
You do have to do that to hide what is really going on don't you. All the poverty and crime in red states is mostly from the large blue cities within those states not the red cities.
This statement is straight out of FOX News.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Name one state that doesn't struggle to get good foster care parents in the system.
I’m sure they all struggle to find people willing to be foster care parents. I’m talking about how some states support the program with funding and others do not. The foster care parents are just one part of the system. You need dedicated social workers, judges, healthcare and mental health providers, lawyers, educators, parole officers, volunteer mentor programs and more. I am a Court Appointed Special Advocate in the California system.
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@PREZ-HILTON
That incorrect not all did lose.
Name one candidate the Democrats helped in the primary who went on to win the general election
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@PREZ-HILTON
Florida, yeah it was all local governments. Local police putting me in an abusive home, followed by the department of children and families.
If you had been living in Delaware when all this happened I think you would have had better support.
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@PREZ-HILTON
republican cities have very little poverty and a lot of economic prosperity.
That’s laughable. All the wealth is in California, New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New Jersey. All the poverty is in the red states like Kentucky, West Virginia, Mississippi, and Louisiana.
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@PREZ-HILTON
The banks shouldn't have been bailed out period.
If some of the banks hadn’t been bailed out you would have been likely unemployed for the last 14 years. Is that what you want?
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@PREZ-HILTON
My impression is that banks made risky loans and did other stupid moves because they knew they would receive economic interventionism
Dozens of banks went out of business in the Great Bush Recession. Both Investment banks like Lehman Bros. and Merrill Lynch and commercial banks like Washington Mutual. So, so much for knowing they would be rescued.
I’m curious were you got this impression but I’m guessing it was ignorant right wing media.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Yeah back then it was minimum wage or close to it, but had I been in charge of my own retirement and Medicare or whatever than I could have utilized the money immediately.
Yes, but then you would likely be in poverty in your old age. Do you realize that most seniors in this country get the majority of their income from social security?
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@PREZ-HILTON
Florida, yeah it was all local governments. Local police putting me in an abusive home, followed by the department of children and families.
Well there’s your problem right there. Florida has no state income tax. Social programs like foster care are low priority. If you had been lucky enough to live in a state that cared about human beings you would have likely had more support.
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And it worked like a charm. All those losers lost in the general election
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@PREZ-HILTON
but it's good that there was more competition and less corruption in banking because of the repeal
That’s the opposite of what happened. The Housing crash of 2008 was largely the result of repealing Glass-Steagall.
Deregulation and a lack of new regulation
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Biden recently signed a bill into law making it illegal for rail workers to strike. He also said the bill was good for America.
That’s a lie.
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@PREZ-HILTON
It sucks that repealing it hurt big business so stocks went down, but it's good that there was more competition and less corruption in banking because of the repeal
You have no clue what you are talking about. The repeal resulted in investment banks merging with commercial banks. The result was swift and disastrous.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Glass Steagull was a perfect policy with zero negative results"
Gee, like Trump’s “perfect phone call”
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@PREZ-HILTON
What Is did get was less money in my paycheck due to taxes which made things harder.
At your income level you don’t pay any Federal income tax. You pay social security tax for your retirement and disability and Medicare tax.
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@PREZ-HILTON
So I guess thanks government for literally putting me in an abusive home.
Come on, usually government is the Federal government not the local police. What state were you living in when you ran away?
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@PREZ-HILTON
Free lunches at school, perhaps . Honestly though I think all republicans support the free lunch programs.
Perhaps? Were you guardian to your siblings or not? Sounds like you are dodging. And Republicans do not support the school lunch (and breakfast) program. Democrats created the program in 1946 and most recently it was improved and championed by First Lady Michelle Obama.
“Low-income children are eligible to receive reduced-price or free meals at school. Children in households with incomes below 130 percent of the poverty level or those receiving SNAP or TANF qualify for free meals. Those with family incomes between 130 and 185 percent of the poverty line qualify for reduced-price meals”
CHIPs was formulated in the aftermath of the failure of President Bill Clinton's comprehensive health care reform proposal. Legislation to create CHIP was co-sponsored by Democratic Senator Ted Kennedy and Republican Senator Orrin Hatch, and received strong support from First Lady Hillary Clinton. Despite opposition from some conservatives, SCHIP was included in the Balanced Budget Act of 1997, which President Clinton signed into law in August 1997. At the time of its creation, SCHIP represented the largest expansion of taxpayer-funded health insurance coverage for children in the U.S. since the establishment of Medicaid in 1965.
We’re your siblings still children in 1997? If you didn’t get it for them you made a mistake.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Correct. Like I said the passing of Glass Steagull caused people to immediately go from banking at local banks to national and multinational ones in a relatively short period of time.Before Glass Steagull passed 80% of banking was done at mom and pop banks. Afterwards 80% is done at the top 5 or 6 banking institutions.
Glass-Steagall separated Investment banking from Commercial banking and gave banks taking deposits access to federal financial support along with a myriad of regulations including how much reserves the bank needed to hold and what commercial banks could do with those deposits.
Glass-Steagall was good legislation. Just 10years after it’s repeal the banking industry put our economy in the worst crisis since the Depression.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Yes I dropped out of highschool at 16 because I was emancipated to become an adult and gained custody of my younger siblings. It took 2 minimum wage jobs to afford to raise them, so there was no time for school. Not to mention it isn't easy for even an emancipated 16 yr old to acquire an apartment lease.
So you had bad parents. I see.
Tell me how much help you got from the government to be able to support your younger siblings. Food stamps? Free lunch at school? Free healthcare from CHIPS. How did programs created by Democrats help you and your family?
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@Public-Choice
If anything, according to your analysis, this would mean that potentially millions of Democrats were not represented in 2020 because Trump cheated successfully. Doesn't that bother you in the slightest that you admit the election was, in some capacity "bent" to the point where it made a difference?
We had a Special Counsel to investigate Trump’s cheating in 2016. The Mueller report confirmed the Russians tried to influence our election and he indicted dozens of Russians in the process. Trump was able to use his office to shield himself from accountability mainly because Republicans in Congress put their party and their political prospects ahead of the country. They acted in the same way for 2020. This time it was extortion of the Ukrainian President and fomenting an insurrection.
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@Public-Choice
If Trump successfully cheated, as you claim, then it was not a free nor fair election, right?
This is so dumb. The people who are claiming the election wasn’t free and fair are the ones who were cheating. Trump lost so he was not ultimately successful in cheating.
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Whether or not anyone was successful or not is irrelevant. The mere fact people believe one man had the possibility in and of itself proves that there are no secure elections.
That’s nonsense. Trump and Meadows were engaged in a conspiracy to defraud the United States. They were not acting alone. And we aren’t talking about ordinary citizens, we are talking about people inside the government who violated their oath of office.
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