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@ADreamOfLiberty
Never before (excluding the civil war) without bail, without charges, without trial dates, on misdemeanors, for over a year, for political reasons.
Bullshit. They have been charged and they were charged with felonies and they were charged because they broke the law.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Without conviction or even charges. You know like a banana republic.... or fascist state.
That’s a lie. America has always held some accused criminals without bail to await trial. They have been charged with crimes. You’re a liar.
George Floyd wasn’t murdered. He wasn't even killed by the police.
Another lie. You’re a habitual liar just like Trump.
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With Ashli Babbitt, Donald Trump and the GOP have found a perfect martyr to rationalize their perpetual victimhood and inspire future “freedom fighters” to assist in their full-scale assault on democracy.
Trump is a big baby who is is always claiming to be a victim. People are treating him very unfairly!
He is using that same language to gin up support for MAGA nut job Ashli Babbitt who was shot and killed by Capital police as she was breaching a broken window during the assault on January 6.
Trump was on TV today speaking by phone to Babbitt’s parents who were attending a rally in support of 1-6 mob members who are being held in jail.
MAGA Republicans are a disgrace trying to claim the police officer murdered Babbitt.
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@ILikePie5
Imagine living in a world where you think someone who was born with just a penis is a girl
Imagine you two morons thinking you are men. Poor, unsuccessful men.
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@thett3
I say this as a practicing catholic and someone who has some ancestors that came to America post 1850s. This post is very misinformed. If Trumpers = know nothings I would say they have some valid points!
Ya, if real Americans had been able to keep your family out of this country we would be a lot better off today.
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@thett3
There is a difference in the sense that there was already the ethnogenesis of a distinct American ethnicity by the time mass immigration really kicked off
That’s bullshit.
you said we are a Christian-British country and that was from Jamestown and the Massachusetts Bay Colony. So right from the beginning of settlement we were distinct.
I don’t know what ethnicity you are but it is likely that when your ancestors came here nobody who was already here welcomed your family. Irish, French, German, Italian, Greek - they were all shit own and told to go back home by the people who were already here.
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@Public-Choice
Your assumptions about Just Facts misportraying the facts is extremely misleading.
The owner of Just Facts is a Christian wack job with an agenda. He’s his own editor. This is NOT a legitimate source of facts.
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@Public-Choice
Did you not see the link to the emails?
I did see the link. That’s likely less reliable than Just Facts.com.
Do you expect me to read all those emails looking for some smoking gun? Why don’t you pull the incriminating emails out and make your case assuming you can prove these emails are verified by a competent authority.
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There is no difference between a settler and an immigrant other than who got there first.
And who invited you and your crazy Catholic ancestors to this country?
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“IT WAS BULLSHIT”
Bill Barr did not think much of Donald Trump’s lies about the 2020 election. According to his videotaped testimony before the House select committee investigatinghow those lies resulted in the storming of the Capitol on January 6, 2021, Trump’s former Attorney General told Trump this to his face. Among his choice words about various claims by the Trump legal team: “bullshit,” “completely bullshit,” “absolute rubbish,” “idiotic,” “bogus,” “stupid,” “crazy,” “crazy stuff,” “complete nonsense,” and “a great, great disservice to the country.” What’s more, Barr added, if Trump actually believed the garbage he was spewing about the election, then he had become dangerously “detached from reality.”
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This alternative reality has no basis in fact and is made possible by a failure to exercise critical thinking skills
and the inability to determine credible sources of information as well as the desire to hear only what they already believe.
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The 2020 presidential contest is “the most secure election in U.S. history,” acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Tuesday, while urging voters to be patient for results and rely on trusted sources of information as they await updates on the outcome.
Speaking during a morning press conference, Mr. Wolf and Chris Krebs, director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, said the federal government was working with all 50 states to communicate quickly about potential threats to the election and so far had not seen any signs of foreign interference on Election Day that could degrade or corrupt the voting process.
“We have no indications that a foreign actor has succeeded in compromising or affecting the actual votes in this election,” Mr. Wolf said.
Independent election security experts generally agree that the 2020 election is more secure from foreign interference and cyberattacks than the 2016 election, as states have adopted more resiliency measures like paper backup ballots and expanded cooperation with federal authorities. Iran and Russia have attempted to interfere in the election in recent weeks and months, officials have said, but those efforts have been relatively limited.
Nov 3, 2020 at 10:13 am ET
Officials Say 2020 Election Is Most Secure In History, but Plead for Patience
By Dustin Volz
Wall Street Journal
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JOINT STATEMENT FROM ELECTIONS INFRASTRUCTURE GOVERNMENT COORDINATING COUNCIL & THE ELECTION INFRASTRUCTURE SECTOR COORDINATING EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES
Original release date: November 12, 2020
WASHINGTON – The members of Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) Executive Committee – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) Assistant Director Bob Kolasky, U.S. Election Assistance Commission Chair Benjamin Hovland, National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) President Maggie Toulouse Oliver, National Association of State Election Directors (NASED) President Lori Augino, and Escambia County (Florida) Supervisor of Elections David Stafford – and the members of the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC) – Chair Brian Hancock (Unisyn Voting Solutions), Vice Chair Sam Derheimer (Hart InterCivic), Chris Wlaschin (Election Systems & Software), Ericka Haas (Electronic Registration Information Center), and Maria Bianchi (Democracy Works) - released the following statement:
“The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.
“When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.
“Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020.
“While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”
“The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.
“When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.
“Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020.
“While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”
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@Public-Choice
when most of the violence happened before Trump even finished speaking.
That’s factually untrue. You are a liar. A Christian liar.
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@Public-Choice
Those "MAGA Republicans" are sitting in a prison right now before even being tried. And this President says anyone who questions the results of the election is a threat to democracy and ties them to a mob of mostly Antifa members and fringe right lunatics who do not represent a MAGA Republican.
Ya, that’s how the criminal justIce system often works in this country. People commit crimes, violent crimes. They are arrested and go before a judge who decides if it is in the peoples interest to offer bail while they await trial. That’s not unusual, right? Are you stupid or something?
The election was run fairly. This has been confirmed by numerous official agencies ( Bill Barr’s Dept of Justice) including the Department of Homeland Security and international election monitors. The complaints were heard in numerous courts, including by judges appointed by Trump himself. The complaints were all thrown out. The only reason people are questioning the results is the guy who lost, a habitual liar, had been telling people lies. Dozens of Republicans who testified at the 1/6 committee testified the election was fair and Trump tried to steal it. Nobody arrested by the FBI after being caught on camera in the Capital riot was connected to ANTIFA. However many people arrested by the FBI admitted to being a MAGA Republicans.
You have your head up your ass.
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@Public-Choice
Actually I did more than go lah lah lah, I ripped into your pathetic religious nut source. You made the statement. It’s up to you to cite a credible source. That’s what you learned at the Just Facts Academy, right?
But you’re too lazy to do that. Instead you find a fellow Christian believer to feed you the bullshit you already believe.
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@Public-Choice
Anyone else see parallels between Communist China and what Biden said in his speech about what he wants to do to dissenters and Trump supporters?
What did Biden say and what do you think he said?
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Public-choice is a graduate of the Just Facts Academy correspondence course!
JFD’s taglines are “Be Informed, Not Just Opinionated” and “God is Great”
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Just Facts Daily is a 501(c)3 nonprofit organization owned by James D. Agresti. Just Facts Daily does not have advertising and is funded through donations.
James D. Agresti is a former atheist who became a Christian after reading the Bible over the course of a year and finding objective evidence for its accuracy. Mr. Agresti holds a Bachelor of Science in Mechanical Engineering from Brown University and has worked as a designer of jet aircraft engines, a technical sales professional, and a chief engineer of a firm that customizes helicopters. He is a cofounder and president of Just Facts, a research and educational institute dedicated to investigating, documenting, and publishing facts about public policy issues (and partisan political stories like Hunter Biden)
Just Facts Daily (JFD) is a news, opinion, and fact-checking website with a right-center bias in reporting. JFD’s tagline is “Be Informed, Not Just Opinionated.” This website is certainly informative, but it also appears to be quite opinionated. Here are some examples of JFD falsehoods:
“5.7 million — that’s how many illegal immigrants might have voted” in 2008. – False
Yes, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris Are Planning to Legalize Abortion Up To Birth – False
Joe Biden received extra votes in battleground states from noncitizens – Unproven
-mediabiasfactcheck.com
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@Public-Choice
Oh boy, the religious kook uses “just facts daily” as a source for information. Why not just consult with god?
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Typical dummy Republican using a misleading headline.
Democrat is alleged to have killed a journalist. He’s in jail awaiting trial. The only way the county could stop paying him is if he resigned or was recalled by the voters.
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@Public-Choice
Christianity is a relationship with a friend who sticks closer than a brother. A God who loves you so much He took the punishment for you. A mighty fortress in the midst of attack. A loving Father who seeks the best good things for his children. And a God who is all-powerful and self-sufficient. A God who does not need you, for He is not in need, but wants you, because He loves you very much.
How long have you loved the lord? Lol
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@Public-Choice
Christianity is the belief that all of your sins, all of your mistakes, all of your regrets, and all of your pain can be given into the hands of The One who created you and loves you.
What’s your source for this statement? You say you are a Christian in your biography. What credentials do you possess to make such a claim?
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@Public-Choice
Cite me the section in the bill and then you've done your job.
Says who? Cite your source.
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@Public-Choice
The burden of proof is always on the one who makes statements, not on the person who requests it.
Prove it. Who says the burden of proof is always on the one who makes statements? What is your source for this assertion you are making?
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I'll be voting Republicans then since they are the only party to "tax the rich"
What a dummy
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@Public-Choice
If you cite specific sections of the tax code then that could count as evidence.
I did cite specific sections of the 2017 Tax Act.
The law caps state and local tax deductions at $10,000. I am not going to post a copy of the statute. This fact is not in dispute. This has the effect of raising taxes on blue state Americans who have higher property taxes due to higher home values. Another fact not in dispute. Homes in California and New York cost more than homes in Mississippi and Kentucky. Blue states have higher state income taxes and their workers have higher incomes. California has a higher median household income than Red states. Another fact not in dispute. So when Republicans capped the deduction for state and local taxes it had the effect of raising taxes on blue state Americans with upper middle class incomes and higher home values.
This is a forum you jack ass. Stop being so obtuse. There is a debate format on this website if you want to spend hours presenting a particular position.
Here’s a ranking of median household income by state. The bottom 10 are all Red states.
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The Holocaust - Fact or Fiction?
The Moon Landing - Fact or Fiction?
The Earth is flat - Fact or Fiction?
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@zedvictor4
A President should work for the benefit of an entire Nation.
So perhaps Biden is doing his job properly.
Notwithstanding that a "Red State" is only a Red State by virtue of a higher voting percentage.
Us and them politics, is for those with too much time on their handsOr for most folk, once every four years.
Of course. That’s my point. Republicans only govern for their voters. A tax law (2017) that was designed to take money from blue state Americans and give it to their wealthy donors shows how Republicans operate. Democrats on the other hand pass laws that create good jobs in red states.
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@Public-Choice
Do you, like, ever make a logical argument for anything you believe? Or are you all 5th grade insults?
What insult like did he give? Like, what like are you talking like about?
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@Public-Choice
Source? Actually, any source at all for any of your assertions in the op?
You need a source for the Tax Cut Act of 2017? It was in all the papers and you have had to use it for all your tax filings since 2018.
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At an 1855 “American convention” held in Philadelphia, the American Party adopted a platform that would have sweepingly denied political and civil rights to immigrants. Speaking during a downpour, a nativist politician from New York told the crowd, to cheers: “American as I am, I decidedly prefer this rain to the reign of Roman Catholicism in this country … I, as an American citizen, prefer this rain or any other rain to the reign of foreignism … I go for America first, last and always.”
The phrase “ America First”was invoked during the first Red Scare to defend against Bolshevism and on the floor of Congress to pass the raft of laws that imposed racial and ethnic quotas on immigration in the early decades of the 20th century, not to be lifted until the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. And it was a favorite slogan of the resurgent Ku Klux Klan, which in the 1920s was a nativist, anti-immigrant, anti-Catholic, antisemitic, antilabor and red-baiting fraternity as well as a white-supremacist one. The point for all these groups was always the same: to defend “real America” against the threats posed by anyone they deemed less than a real American
Today’s Trumpers are as bad as the Know Nothings.
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Eat the rich.
You dummy. The Trump/Republican tax law of 2017 cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. It cut taxes for wealthy corporations.
It raised taxes on the upper middle class and people with itemized deductions like state income taxes, union dues, work related travel, etc…
It did little for poor dummies with teeny tiny incomes. It doubled the standard deduction but eliminated personal exemptions. So there was effectively no change to taxable income for the middle class and below.
It’s sad so many Americans are too dumb to understand how they are getting abused. Too dumb to understand what they want and how to get it.
I mean Eat the Rich and Vote Republican coming out of the same mouth is absolute insanity.
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Just the Rich Democrats.
I’m interested to know what a hayseed like you thinks is rich. Property is worth more in blue states because they are better places to live - close to jobs, the ocean, universities, airports, museums, etc… So a 1500 sqft ranch home costs a million dollars but in Mississippi it’s 100,000. Why should we not be able to deduct our property taxes just so we can send welfare to the red state losers?
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LMFAO Salt cap was a blatant tax cut for the rich embraced by Democrats to pander to the rich lobbyists.
What an idiot. Obviously you don’t understand how the SALT Cap affected taxpayers. The SALT Cap represents a tax increase, not a tax cut you dummy.
By capping the tax deduction to just $10,000, millions of blue state taxpayers are double taxed, paying taxes on their upper middle class income they never received because it was taxed by someone else. But since Red state Americans have both cheap rural homes, low incomes, and pay little to no state income tax or property taxes, they weren’t affected by the cap.
I propose democrats create a tax on large parcels of land. Anybody who owns more than an acre should pay higher taxes. That will hurt rural people and even out the tax burden so blue states aren’t subsidizing all the red states.
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First of all GayParrott. You don’t pay any federal income taxes. You don’t earn enough to pay those kind of taxes. I’m highly skeptical that you are a “productive taxpayer”
Second of all, the government isn’t choosing winners and losers, they are choosing the game that will be played . And the government is NOT getting in the chip business, it’s MICRON, WOLFSPEED, TSMC, and SKYWATER.
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@Shila
Democrats are creating jobs in Red States so they can be taxed to pay for programs in Blue States
Um no. Red States are supported by Blue states. The poorest states in the country are Red. Most of the tax revenue comes from the wealthy. Lue states like California and New York.
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Judge Middlebrooks: “Trump’s attorneys “certified to the court” that to the best of their knowledge their arguments were legally sound and not frivolous. “I have serious doubts about whether that standard is met here,”
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Even though the Republicans try to punish blue states whenever they can (2017 Tax Act SALT Cap) Democrats passed legislation that will help Ohio and other Republican leaning states. The Chips Act was pushed through by Democrats and signed by Biden bringing billions of dollars in subsidies to build factories in Red states.
“The federal subsidies, part of the Chips Act signed into law last month, are sparking a wave of chip investment. Micron is holding its own groundbreaking ceremony on Monday for a $15 billion chip factory near its headquarters in Boise, Idaho. Chip maker Wolfspeed on Friday announced plans to build a new manufacturing facility in Chatham County, North Carolina” Taiwan’s TSMC, the world’s largest chip maker, has said it will seek subsidies for a $12 billion factory that it has begun building in Phoenix and is aiming to finish late next year” And a partnership between SkyWater Technology and Purdue University will apply for a federal subsidy to build a new $1.8 billion factory and research facility next to the university in West Lafayette, Ind” Nearby states are hoping to benefit from the cluster of suppliers that industry experts say is bound to develop around the Ohio site. Giant chip factories need chemicals, blank silicon wafers to etch, and equipment and service providers.
“Microelectronics occurs in clusters. We believe Indiana and Ohio are a cluster,” Indiana’s Secretary of Commerce Brad Chambers said in an interview this week. “That Silicon Heartland concept I think is real.”
ALL RED STATES. ALL BENEFITING FROM LEGISLATION PASSED BY BIDEN
Does this make Democrats suckers? Are Red state Americans too dumb to know who helped them?
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@RationalMadman
It is time to let Trump be the bland wallpaper he is, stop feeding his attention-seeking narcissism with many online forums and threads about him across the Internet.
The problem is he is the leader of the Republican Party. The base treats him like the Messiah and elected Republicans fear his wrath.
Ignoring the fat, orange elephant in the room isn’t really an option unfortunately.
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A “Russia hoax” lawsuit by Trump is dismissed by a judge with the derision it deserved.
“At its core, the problem with Plaintiff’s Amended Complaint is that Plaintiff is not attempting to seek redress for any legal harm … instead, he is seeking to flaunt a two-hundred-page political manifesto outlining his grievances against those that have opposed him, and this Court is not the appropriate forum,” he wrote”
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You understand neither the meaning of what a troll is or what a tried-and-true racist is. I am neither. You're just an intellectual coward when it comes to the truth about some black Americans, and the divisive rhetoric of race and racism in this country as well.
Lol. The enlisted guy from the Army loves the “intellectual coward” line. You know all those enlisted guys were paid the big bucks because the were such intellectuals. And he’s the least racist guy you could ever meet, except for Trump of course.
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@Avery
Was it your job to put out the snacks at the KKK meeting? Like in the movie Black Klansman.
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"This MAGA crowd is really the most extreme political organization that’s existed in American history."
The MAGA crowd deserves nothing but derision
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@RationalMadman
That terrible deal is what the thread's creator is saying is a good job by Biden..
No. False. Biden didn’t negotiate the terrible terms of the withdrawal- that was Trump, including the release of 5000 Taliban prisoners.
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@RationalMadman
I see you take after Biden.
Not Trump? You think Biden is toxic and offensive - and Trump is what then ? Talk about an alternative reality.
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@RationalMadman
whataboutism
As in- what about Trump and Republican members of Congress, are they remorseful for being racist?
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Imagine belonging to a right wing militia group that is led by a guy who is so incompetent he shot himself in the eye.
That’s right, Stewart Rhodes, the eye patch wearing leader of the Oath Keepers who is about to go on trial for sedition and numerous other charges, shot his own eye out when he dropped his pistol and the gun went off. What a loser. A loser who attracts other losers. Rhodes and the Oath Keepers supported Donald Trump during his presidency of course.
Oh and the cherry on top - his real name is Elmer, as in Elmer Fudd.
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Not one mention of censorship? What a juvenile study.
GayParrott is a juvenile
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@Ramshutu
Censorship of lies and misinformation in not censorship.
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