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Republican demands to end aid for the poor causes poverty to increase sharply in 2022
The end of increased child tax credit payments and other government interventions has dramatically increased the supplemental child poverty rate (incorporates the value of benefits such as child tax credits, earned income tax credits and stimulus checks) in America from 7.8 to 12.4 percent.

Way to go Republicans.

For 2022, the U.S. poverty level was $13,590 for individuals and $23,030 for a family of three.
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Inflation is coming down fast. Conservatives didn’t get their wish
In order to reverse the damage done by Biden, we would have to have an equivilent deflationary period to restore normal dollar values for goods. 
Prices under Trump were wildly higher than prices under Carter. So Trump really destroyed the economy.

We were way better off under the Carter Administration as it relates to prices. Gasoline was 60 cents a gallon under Carter

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 the presumption of innocence
Is for criminal trials. It’s not related to running for office or serving in office.

If you are being interviewed for a job, there is no presumption of innocence either. If people think you suck, they don’t have to hire you. They don’t even have to consider you.

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Inflation is coming down fast. Conservatives didn’t get their wish
 “standard measures of underlying inflation are now under 3 percent and falling. Fancier statistical models maintained by the New York Fed tell the same story, and say that underlying inflation has fallen by half since its peak last year.”

“the dramatic fall in underlying inflation this year is clearly real, and corroborated by many sources, notably business surveys. Voters, especially Republicans, may believe or claim to believe that inflation is still rising, but while this belief may be politically important, it’s just wrong”


So sad - the Republicans were praying for inflation.
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how did trump as president help the average person? or people who are struggling?
He didn't print 10 trillion dollars and create inflation.
He did print 8 trillion in debt. An all-time record. Trump caused inflation with his tax cuts and by mismanaging COVID.

During Obama’s administration, virulent diseases were handled competently and caused little damage.

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Trump’s Sec of Defense Mark Esper declared Trump’s scheme a “National Embarrassment”
it is so unperturbably predictable 
There’s that 6th grade education again by Jethro!

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Any pencil dick  here that believes 14:3 actually applied would have challenged me to an official debate by now. Since the chicken 💩 s haven’t, we’ll, that fact pretty much establishes their position is a heaping pile of shit that they know they cannot prove. 
This is from an unemployed, loser who was an army enlisted guy with no children and lives off a government check.

They gay bashing indicates that TWS, aka Jethro Bodine, still has the mind of a 6th grader.

I win, anyone contesting loses.
This might be your greatest success since graduating Army boot camp! Great job Jethro!

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Further the Amnesty act of 1872  allowed most of them to seek and hold office.
Did you research the Act?

Specifically, the 1872 Act removed office-holding disqualifications against most of the secessionists who rebelled in the American Civil War, except for "Senators and Representatives of the thirty-sixth and thirty-seventh Congresses, officers in the judicial, military, and naval service of the United States, heads of departments, and foreign ministers of the United States."[5]

President Grant pardoned all but 500 former top Confederate leaders.

That’s a lot of people still banned
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They  were never tried nor convicted.
Yet they were still banned from state or federal office

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The foregoing quote was spelled correctly.
Way to go Jethro! Naught naught

STILL INCONTESTABLE!!!
Lol, must be that 6th grade education!

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False equivalency fallacy
You can’t even spell, let alone understand what hearsay means. Because you’re a dummy. So understanding faulty logic is beyond your Jethro Bodine 6th grade education.



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Trump’s Sec of Defense Mark Esper declared Trump’s scheme a “National Embarrassment”
“In his book, published in 2022, Esper wrote that Trump's effort "was a national embarrassment that undermined our democracy, our credibility, and our leadership on the world stage."

“Esper later wrote that Trump's behavior on January 6, when a mob of his supporters, incited by the president, attacked the Capitol and disrupted the counting of the electoral votes, "threatens our democracy."[178]

The MAGA Morons are also a National Embarrassment 

General Mattis on Trump:  "I've earned my spurs on the battlefield ... Donald Trump earned his spurs in a letter from a doctor."




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“DCNG announced Monday it had mobilized 340 troops to support MPD, but that organization’s jurisdiction does not cover any federal land within the District, and so its officers ― and its Guard support ― could not have just rushed to the Capitol”

“Bowser put in a request for support Dec. 31, Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy told reporters on Thursday”


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To disqualify Trump at this point in time, one must make a presumption of guilt. 
No confederate leader was ever found guilty of insurrection in court yet many were banned from running for office,

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“The several hundred troops posted around downtown D.C. on Wednesday were there at the request of Mayor Muriel Bowser, to support local police”

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AP article say different.
“officials also were intent on avoiding any appearance that the federal government was deploying active duty or National Guard troops against Americans”

Officials? Who exactly? which officials? Bill Barr? The Mayor of DC? Trump? Who?

This article was written the day after the insurrection. It took months to sort out who was responsible for the security failures. Idiots like you were saying it was Nancy Pelosi’s fault.

Oh, and you left this part of the article out:

“The actions of the day also raise troubling concerns about the treatment of mainly white Trump supporters, who were allowed to roam through the building for hours, while Black and brown protesters who demonstrated last year over police brutality faced more robust and aggressive policing”

“Mayor Muriel Bowser had warned of impending violence for weeks, and businesses had closed in anticipation. She requested National Guard help from the Pentagon on Dec. 31, but the Capitol Police turned down the Jan. 3 offer from the Defense Department, according to Kenneth Rapuano, assistant defense secretary for homeland security”

So the Mayor had asked for the National Guard.
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So you admit to liking sucking Dick, got it. LOL!!!
Classic strawman fallacy from the moron who is always incorrectly claiming strawman.

I know full well what it is, you do not,
No, you don’t. You claimed Cipollone and Hutchinson gave hearsay (heresay in your case) evidence, which was incorrect. You literally can’t even spell the word.

They were the ones who witnessed Ivanka Trump trying to get her father to act. Their testimony under oath corroborated each other. You’re a dummy.

This country needs to evaluate if morons like you should be allowed to vote and make some changes.

The reason hearsay is barred for evidence is simple:  one cannot cross examine the person who is making the statement since that person is not in court.
Classic strawman fallacy from the moron who is always incorrectly claiming strawman.

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FanDick is the one who doesn’t comprehend heresay and why it’s more often than not admissible in court. 
Go suck a dick, FanDick. Everyone here knows that’s what you love to do when you’re not trolling DART with your TDS issues. 
what a surprise that a racist MAGA Moron is a homophobe. Yet no kids for you. Hmm. 

And  you misspelled hearsay. Because you’re a dummy 

The reason hearsay is barred for evidence is simple: 
You have already shown you don’t understand what constitutes hearsay. Because you’re a dummy 


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J6 insurgent from Texas took a gun to the Capital. His own son turned him in.
WAPO, where truth dies in darkness.
Bullshit. Jimmy Dore is where morons get their news.

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“For the sentencing, Peyton (the MAGA moron’s daughter) wrote a letter to the judge asking for leniency and saying the former president had led her father astray. When Trump spoke, she wrote, her father “fell to his knees.”

Peyton hadn’t planned to speak to the news media, but then she impulsively began.
Trump deserves life in prison if my father is in prison for this long,” she said of the former president, who has since been indicted four times, including on charges related to Jan. 6. As she spoke, she thought she might black out.

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J6 insurgent from Texas took a gun to the Capital. His own son turned him in.
There are morons on this site who say the J6 mob was not armed. That’s a lie.

“Actions are actions. Dad went to the Capitol with a gun,” said Jackson, then 20 years old. “He walked up the Capitol steps with a gun on his hip.”


They (the family)  blamed Trump for how that January day in 2021 had played out.
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TDS effect
It's no secret here that I hate Trump, and to that end, I generally avoid talking about him because that tends to suck the oxygen out of all rational discussion
Bullshit. You criticized everyone and everything except Trump. You’re a lying Libertarian 

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Ask the legally trained TWS to explain hearsay. He can’t even get that simple concept right.
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Citing my credentials gives away personal information. 
Bullshit. You have no credentials to speak of.

you’re jsut not that special enough for me to waste my time
There’s that highly trained, legal mind attention to detail again.

Tell us again how hearsay works, lol

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The 14th Amendment, Section 3, does not apply where President Donald J. Trump is concerned.
Lol, tell us again what hearsay is. You couldn’t even get that right.

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Trump lost more money as President than all presidents combined in US history.
That’s a lie.

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You are an unemployed, disabled former army enlisted guy. You refuse to cite your credentials because you don’t have any.
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No, it is not. It is called HEARSAY and for good reason. 
Wrong. It takes 3 people to create hearsay evidence genius.

The person who said or did something 

The witness who heard or saw the person say or do something 

A third person the witness relayed the evidence to.

In this case both Hutchinson and Cipolone witnessed Ivanka imploring her father to act. Those are both first hand accounts. Their testimony is also first hand.
The two statements support (or corroborate) each other.

An example of hearsay would be where person A sees someone climbing into the window of a house. If A later tells person B that the person he saw was C,  evidence from B of what A told him is hearsay.

And you claim to have legal training, Lol. You are such a dummy you can’t figure out hearsay 

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Unsure recollections without anything factual to back it up, especially when the others from whom they claim to have heard the statements being conveyed from, are not present to affirm or deny said statements = hearsay. 
Bullshit. First hand testimony under oath is called evidence .

Maxine Waters is more culpable for inciting leftists who have accosted innocent people trying to force them to adhere to the Burn Loot Murder mantra if Chauvin would be acquitted. That rhetoric was specific and meets the legal criteria, Trump telling people to fight like hell (i.e., protest sternly) but peacefully and with dignity =/= incitement to violence. He never said get confrontational and in their faces like Waters did.  You are delusional.
People from J6 who were arrested and went to trial testified, and their lawyers argued, they were there specifically because Trump told them the election was stolen and to come to Washington DC. “It will be wild”

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“Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Chief of Staff Mark Meadows corroborated Cipollone’s recollections about Trump’s eldest daughter on Jan. 6.
“White House counsel’s office wanted there to be a stronger statement out to condemn the rioters. I’m confident in that,” Hutchinson testified. “I’m confident that Ivanka Trump wanted there to be a statement to condemn the rioters.”

“Ivanka Trump, former President Donald Trump's daughter and senior adviser, was among those who gathered at the White House on Jan. 6, 2021, to try to pressure her father to issue a stronger statement to get the rioters at the Capitol to disperse, aides testified during a House hearing Thursday”



It was documented in testimony by several people around Trump at the time of the riot.
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Where is the evidence to back of your claim he was asked by those people, and documented evidence that he refused. 
JC you are in LALA land. You are completely ignorant or feigning ignorance of well documented events of J6 which was studied and reported in depth by the televised J6 committee 

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Georgia election grand jury recommended charges against many more, including S.C. Sen. Graham
A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims...but accomplices" 
Yes,  Republicans and Libetarians are accomplices. They are complicit 
 
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How was he, one man, going to stop the riot?
You are being ridiculous. He was asked (by his own daughter, Kevin McCarthy and several others) to call off the attackers. He refused.

Yes, they did, and it is cited within my comment discrediting the claim 14/3
Your citation doesn’t say the FBI declared J6 was not an insurrection. You are lying.

“The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials”

This is meaningless. It’s subjective. It’s anonymous. And it certainly doesn’t quote the FBI saying anything like what you are proposing.

Since this Washington Examiner fish wrapper article, several people have been convicted of seditious conspiracy and given long prison sentences.

By that definition, there was no “insurrection” at the United States Capitol on Jan. 6, according to the FBI.
That’s another lie. The FBI doesn’t look at the dictionary definition of insurrection and they never said what you say they said.

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Easy to claim, harder to prove. 
You are the one claiming Trump “offered” the National Guard to protect the Capital.

Prove it. You are a liar.

“The Army major general testified that the day before the insurrection, he received a letter with an "unusual" restriction on deploying any quick-reaction force service members unless granted explicit approval by then-Secretary of the Army Ryan McCarthy”


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Wrong. Trump offered the National Guard to protect the Capitol and Pelosi said no. 
That’s a lie. Trump didn’t offer the National Guard and Pelosi didn’t say no because it was not offered.

Trump did what he could before J6 happened, so what the fuck was he going to do that just wouldn't be shot down anyways.
That’s ridiculous. He sat and watch it on TV and did nothing to stop the attack

which is precisely why the FBI clearly stipulated that J6 was NOT [an] insurrection.
That’s a lie. The FBI never stipulated, declared or announced J6 was not an insurrection.

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I have the academic and professional training/experience that equips me with the requisite knowledge, intellect and experience with the subject matter. You don’t. 
Lol, talk about delusions of grandeur 

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Because of this I predict it will go up to the supreme court and fail on those grounds.
Trump watched the insurrection on TV from the White House. Many people in person and by phone implored him to take action to stop it, He did nothing for 3 hours.

It is not a question that he helped the insurrection with his inaction. He should be banned from office under Article 14.

He was impeached and should have been convicted by the Senate but there were too many cowards who put their own political careers ahead of the country.

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This is why you fail. You have no academic and/or professional experience in the legal arena to know any better. 
Lol. You are an unemployed, disabled former army enlisted guy. You refuse to cite your credentials because you don’t have any.

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I don't like Trump, 
This is not a credible statement because you criticize everything and everyone except Trump.

You like Trump but you always hesitate to say who or what you like because you are unable to defend.

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strawman fallacies 
Unbelievable. Always claiming you are being strawmaned.  Always some type of fallacy. You must have taken a correspondence course on debating.
Nobody is misrepresenting your argument, your arguments are just stupid.

Defining “shall” and “engaged”  does not make a case for Trump to not be subject to the 14th Amendment.

You are the only moron among those objecting to applying the 14th Amendment to Trump who is using this ridiculous reasoning.

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Based Blacks debate White Democrats.
After all, they live, work and okay among them
Can’t make money of others misery

There’s two more examples of that great attention to detail that only a well trained, experienced legal mind can do

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Your favorite politician
Bernie Sanders 52% top tax bracket, free tuition at public college, Medicare for all.

Sheldon Whitehouse - outstanding performance at the hearing for SCJ Kavanaugh

Sherrod Brown - defender of the middle class 

 


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Your favorite politician
If forced to choose: Rand Paul
Lol. Trump humiliated him in the 2020 primary. Then his neighbor beat him up.

What has Rand Paul done? Any legislation he got passed?

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Jurors Convict Trump Loyalist Peter Navarro After Just 4 Hours
Yet another pardon for Trump to sign. That's just more paperwork for Trump.
Republicans are really tough on crime - if it’s a black guy

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@Double_R
No amount of your sick and twisted sophistry will ever debunk my 100% factually accurate legal analysis of the 14th Amendment, Section 3. 
This guy is more delusional than Trump.

It’s like when Trump says he has a “very big brain” or is “Like really smart”

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Here endeth the lesson. 
That’s coming from a guy who did all his lessons in crayon.

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Washington Post Calls Joe Biden A Liar!
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Oh fuck off you impotent little shit. 
That’s coming from a guy who doesn’t have any children.

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TWS is a dunce. If it weren’t for his disability check from the government he would be homeless.
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Fuck off now and go play protester in the busy streets with the rest of the losers like IWRA. 
See that’s funny. Most people would think the guy who is unemployed and living on disability with no children and watches Star Trek is the loser.

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Kenneth H. Worthy, County Sheriff, Held local office in a Confederate state.
The prohibition in 14/3 was for state and federal office you dipshit. Not county. Are you stupid? Are you a moron or an idiot? I can’t decide.

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