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If there was no difference, there would be no need for two different statutes and/or definitions.
What’s the difference between a moron and an idiot? According to your “logic” there must be a difference.
Or is it two different words that have the same meaning?
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Trump hasn't been charged with sedition. Nor insurrection. Nor treason.
What’s your point? Oh, you don’t have one. That’s surprising
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Says the TDS emasculated pencil dick libtard who clearly suffered a traumatic childhood.
I could see your mother in court saying how you had something akin to a teenaged crush on Trump.
Watching Star Trek while sorting your Trump Digital Trading Cards
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Lewis Wayne Snoots, 59, of Louisa, about 33 miles east of Charlottesville
Fanone was grabbed around the neck by Albuquerque Head of Kingsport, TN.
Lewis Snoots. Albuquerque Head? These are the names of losers. They had rotten lives and now they are devout MAGA Morons.
Many of the Trump supporters here on DART, TWS and GreyParrot, have similar life histories.
Bad parents, no children, low wage jobs, low education, history of trouble with the law, living with their mother well into adulthood, divorced or never married.
These are your typical MAGA morons.
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Here’s one of the losers who had assaulted Capitol police officer Michael Fanone on January 6.
Only after Fanone walked out did Daniel Rodriguez spend about a minute of his half-hour speech apologizing for shocking the police officer with a stun gun. In the rest of his remarks, he explained “Life has always seemed unfair to me.”
Rodriguez never knew his dad and didn’t finish high school. He worked low-end jobs and spent most of his time with his mother. His attorney said Rodriguez idolized Trump as “the father he wished he had.” In a letter to the court, Rodriguez’s mother described her son’s enthusiasm for Trump as something akin to a teenage crush, writing that suddenly he was eating little, sleeping less and constantly on the phone.
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I've fought the government myself many times, just not in "armed" ways. I used my words when fighting for the rights of disabled veterans to get their earned disability compensation.
Haha, the great Republican welfare queen. You mean you cheated the taxpayers by faking a disability so you can live off the government.
Why don’t you just get a job you lazy bum?
and protests peacefully = fighting for their voice to be heard.
Oh they “protests peacefully”? Nice grammar again, genius
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Trump participated in nothing regarding J6.
That’s a lie. As Mitch McConnell said Trump provoked the attack on the Capitol
“Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said Saturday there is "no question" that former US President Donald Trump was "practically and morally responsible for provoking" last month's deadly attack on the US Capitol”
“Senator Mitch McConnell flatly blamed President Trump on Tuesday for the violent rampage at the Capitol on Jan. 6, saying that the mob that stormed the building had been “fed lies” and “provoked by the president” to carry out its assault”
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There was NO fucking insurrection, jackass. Even the FBI, as clearly noted in my analysis, declared there was NO insurrection on J6.
That’s a lie. As I’ve said before the FBI never said J6 was not an insurrection.
You are making shit up after reading an article in the Washington Times. Because you’re a dummy.
There was NO FUCKING INSURRECTION!!!
There is no difference between n insurrection and a seditious conspiracy.
Name one confederate leader (military officer or politician) from the Civil War who was charged with insurrection. You can’t. Does that mean the Civil War was not an insurrection? Of course not.
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There was NO fucking insurrection, jackass. Even the FBI, as clearly noted in my analysis, declared there was NO insurrection on J6.
That’s a lie. As I’ve said before the FBI never said J6 was not an insurrection.
You are hearing what you want from an article in the Washington Times.
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NO!!!! YOU are fucking stupid!!!!!! You used Tarrio as an equal comparative example to Trump, APPLES TO ORANGES, double dumbass!!!
No, you are a moron. Tarrio participated in insurrection just like Trump. You are clueless.
Trump will be banned because he participated in an insurrection just like Tarrio did. Trump had taken an oath of office so he’s banned from serving under 14/3.
Thank God your genes end with you being the childless eunuch that you are.
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TWS - TRUMP WORSHIP SUCKASS is a disgrace
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Normal average citizens do not apply. Period.
You are stupid. I’m not talking about a normal an average citizen, I’m talking about Trump. Trump engaged in insurrection the same way Tarrio did.
Trump is therefore banned from serving. Tarrio is not banned from serving so when he gets out of jail, he can run for state or federal office.
Thank God your genes end with you being childless eunuch that you are.
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The only person that the 14th Section 3 would apply to are those who served as "a Senator or Representative of Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who have previously taken an oath..."Tarrio never held "any Office" in the US Government, Trump did.
Are you stupid? Is that why you’re unemployed?
The comparison of Tarrio and Trump was to illustrate they both engaged in insurrection despite the fact both of them were not at the capital.
Tarrio was convicted. Trump will be convicted.
That said, the 14th Amendment doesn’t require a charge or conviction to prohibit someone from serving. A person just needed to have engaged.
“shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same”
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I wish there was a mandatory class for students named "the work habits of a government employee"
How about the work habits of a substitute teacher?
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In April, Justice Protasiewicz won a commanding victory in what was widely seen as a referendum on abortion rights. Her 11-point margin was a blowout in Wisconsin, a purple state where presidential contests are routinely decided by fewer than 25,000 votes. She carried 12 Republican-held districts in the State Assembly and six in the State Senate.
Now the Republican state legislature is planning to impeach this judge because she won’t recuse herself on a case that clashes with her stated personal political views.
“In years past, conservative justices have argued that personal views they had previously stated did not mean they were required to recuse themselves from relevant cases. For example, Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Brian Hagedorn once compared homosexuality to bestiality, called Planned Parenthood “a wicked organization” and wrote that “Christianity is the correct religion, and that insofar as others contradict it, they are wrong.” He has said those statements would not warrant his recusal on cases about abortion, gay rights or religion”
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And as I outlined in my 100% factually accurate legal analysis, 14/3 cannot and will not be applied to Trump for the analysis given.
You mean the “legal analysis” of a weak minded, unemployed, uneducated, disabled, childless (sterilized), MAGA Moron?
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After the Civil War, many former Confederate leaders, including Davis, were arrested for insurrection and imprisoned.
That’s correct. They were never convicted. They were never even charged or stood trial. Yet they were banned from serving.
The same standard should apply to Trump
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Trump isn’t being charged with seditious conspiracy or insurrection.
Irrelevant. The 14th amendment doesn’t ban people who were charged or convicted, it bans people who engaged.
Everyone saw this with their own eyes. Trump engaged just like Tarrio engaged.
The charges to overturn the election will put him in jail.
His conduct leading up to and on J6 make him ineligible to hold office.
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@Vegasgiants
Let him run. He will lose a general election
And claim it was stolen again. And his idiot supporters will do what next time?
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Trump isn’t being charged with seditious conspiracy or insurrection.
No leaders from the Confederacy were ever charged with anything. But they were banned from holding office again, including Jefferson Davis.
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Also, this false equivalency fallacy of yours…Tarrio hasn’t held a political office. So the 14/3 wouldn’t apply to him
Bullshit LCpl.. Not false equivalency
You are saying an American (Trump) can’t be charged with insurrection unless they “shall engaged”
Tarrio wasn’t there. He hadn’t “shall engaged” in insurrection by your stupid standards yet he was convicted of seditious conspiracy and sentenced to 22 years in prison. Trump engaged just as much as Tarrio. Since Trump had taken an oath to protect the constitution, he is no longer eligible to hold office in the United States under 14/3.
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false equivalency fallacy.
Wrong.
Tarrio wasn’t there. He’s going to jail. He engaged.
Trump wasn’t there, but he engaged. He’s going to jail.
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@cristo71
Yes, it is known as “honest conversation.”
Very good.
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Dunning-Kruger level.intellectual cowardice and cognitive dissonancedenialist
Greatest Hits! With an oldie but a goodie Dunning-Kruger!
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@cristo71
I think the belief is that it is the privilege afforded by being white that gives one the power to save people of color.
Wow, look at you using that brain and explaining the concept to Mr. Glib
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He did not "shall have engaged" in anything.
Either did Tarrio. He’s going to jail for 22 years
More intellectual cowardice denialism with fallacious retorts. Pure fucking childish ignorance.
Greatest Hits!
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Former Proud Boys leader Henry “Enrique” Tarrio, described by a judge as “the ultimate leader” who “was motivated by revolutionary zeal” in organizing members of his far-right group to spark the breach of the U.S. Capitol, was sentenced Tuesday to 22 years in prison, the longest sentence yet among the hundreds convicted of disrupting the peaceful transfer of presidential power on Jan. 6, 2021.
Tarrio wasn’t in DC during the attack on the Capital. This proves you don’t have to physically participate in the insurrection to be guilty of seditious conspiracy.
Trump should be banned from running for office under the 14th Amendment and of course he should go to jail, just like Tarrio
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DWAC, a special purpose acquisition company, or SPAC, and Trump Media & Technology Group, which operates Trump's social media platform, Truth Social, didn't return requests for comment from CBS News. DWAC shares, which traded for $175 in 2021 shortly after the company's initial public offering, rose 3.9% in afternoon trading to $17.16.
Lol
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@ILikePie5
Wow, I wonder why a Speaker chosen with the help of Democrats
Ya, only the Speaker voted to impeach Paxton.
And don’t forget to mention George Soros. He must be part of the witch hunt too, right?
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@FLRW
Yes, but that’s not why he’s being impeached
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The Party of God and Family Values!
Here is a picture of Paxton’s mistress who has been divorced 4 times!
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Attorney General Ken Paxton standing trial today in Texas
This is the kind of moron Texans vote for. Because they’re morons.
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There is an obvious reason why very people like you let alone like engaging with you on DART.
Great grammar. Again
This incredible attention to detail repeatedly demonstrated by you must have been a great asset during your past legal career.
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It's just projection,
Um, I’m not the one who is all alone.
By the way, your post here is not getting a lot of responses. It seems nobody has any interest in what you have to say. Isolation seems to be a way of life for you.
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It's just projection,
Um, I’m not the one who is all alone
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@Double_R
How do these morons manage to feed themselves?
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There won’t be any conviction for it since he has never - ans will never be - charged with insurrection.
How many confederates from the American Civil War were charged with insurrection? Zero
But that didn’t stop the 14th Amendment from being applied to many Confederate leaders
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legal analysis
Lol
It’s called birth control,
I didn’t think a eunuch needed birth control
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I seriously doubt the MSM boob-tube watcher crowd will stop for a hot minute to wonder why Trump has never, and never will be charged with insurrection.
As opposed to the Jimmy Dore YouTube watcher crowd? The media that the average (actually below average) MAGA moron uses is a reflection of their weak mindedness
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Your impotence knows no bounds.
My impotence? You’re the one who doesn’t have any kids, lol
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Speaks volumes about YOU! But hey, as if any “all talk and no action” moderator here would even care that that ad hom definitely crosses the line, they don’t do shit about it.
You’re the one who brought up the $2 hooker.
You reap what you sow LCpl.
So this factually accurate legal analysis doesn’t get lost amongst IWRA’s bullshit whining and Sidewalkwr’s “Cry Racism” Syndrome and FLRW’s inanity.
“factually accurate legal analysis” lol
By an unemployed former army enlisted guy. Oh yeah!
Yes, it reads much better a second time.
shall - engaged - woman - man - camera - tv lol
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It would concern me and cause fear. That doesn't mean it should be labeled as a hate crime though.
The fact that a crime against some stranger would concern you and cause you to fear, is exactly why it should be labeled as a hate crime. It’s a form of terrorism, just like the KKK used to terrorize black people. If Protestants were being killed while going to vote, it could cause many Protestants to not try to vote.
But labeling an idea or act of violence a "hate crime" doesn't do anything.
That’s false, labeling it a hate crime increases the penalties if found guilty and can cause the justice system of police investigations and AG prosecution to prioritize resources in obtaining a conviction.
Sticking labels on crimes doesn't solve anything.
Do you think all crimes receive the same amount of resources and effort?
Do you think resources to solve and prosecute crimes is unlimited?
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@FLRW
TWS is a proud member of the disabled peanut gallery
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Easy to claim, harder to prove.
Unemployed former enlisted guy with correspondence degree vs. former Federal Judge and successful lawyer who was in close proximity to the White House and the Supreme Court over a 50 year legal career. Gee, I wonder who is right.
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like a $2 hooker on PMS night.
So that’s how you met your wife.
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And YET…absolutely, positively, NO election was in fact, “overthrown.”
Oh, so if you fail to get any money during a bank robbery because the safe won’t open, then no harm, no foul. Even if the bank robbers are a few black guys. Right?
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@Redpilled
Here is an example that I;m sure you won't look at.
A guy named Matt Walsh on YouTube? No. That’s not a reliable source. Why don’t you tell me a story you heard at the barbershop to back up your claim?
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Why are hate crimes so much worse than normal crimes?
Imagine if people were inclined to kill other people that look like you.
Are you bald?
Are you overweight?
Your bio says you are a Protestant. Imagine if there lots of people looking to kill Protestants. Would that concern you? Would that cause fear in your life if a few dozen Protestants had been murdered at various church meetings in your neighborhood.
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On June 16, 2022, Luttig testified during a televised hearing conducted by the United States House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack.[41] Before the hearing, Luttig wrote a statement for the record,[42] stating that Trump and his allies "instigated" a war on democracy "so that he could cling to power." He continued, "It is breathtaking that these arguments even were conceived, let alone entertained by the President of the United States at that perilous moment in history" and that January 6 "was the final fateful day for the execution of a well-developed plan by the former president to overturn the 2020 presidential election at any cost." At the close of the hearing, Luttig said:
Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present danger to American democracy. They would attempt to overturn that 2024 election in the same way that they attempted to overturn the 2020 election, but succeed in 2024 where they failed in 2020. I don't speak those words lightly. I would have never spoken those words ever in my life, except that that's what the former president and his allies are telling us.[43]
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