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@Theweakeredge

Relatable.

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@Theweakeredge

Some of the stuff was copied from my debate with intel so...

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@Theweakeredge

5 days? I just couldn't be bothered doing it on the weekday. The definition is exactly the same, well, the important bits are. I'm interested to see your response.

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And we're off!

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@Theweakeredge

"Ah, false equivalences left and right. Comparing the having to call someone, "Majesty" is not at all the same of having to call a trans male, "he". For one - The title, "Majesty" is usually associated with royalty or something of high regard. Not to mention there is no psychological strain with being or not being of royalty for the majority"

The title he is reserved for men. Women can not say "I feel like a man" and then snag the pronoun.

Imagine this. If I made a social construct of "species", let's name it X, and I changed my X to panda. Would I then be a panda since X is a social construct? and nothing to do with biology?

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@Intelligence_06

Exactly my point. I can choose to call you sir. I can choose to call you him. But at the end of the, it is all down to respect, curtesy and personal choice. Are you really an authority figure just because I politely call you sir? Are you really a male even though I politely call you he? It all comes down to whether trans men are men and the answer is no. Biology is on my side. Logic is on my side. Science is on my side and leading politicians who use logic are on my side. You are not a panda if you say you are. You are not a pot plant if you say you are. You are not a human because you say you are. You are not a man because you say you are.

Also have you heard of Jordan Peterson? He came under fire a few years ago when Canada threatened to impose Bill C-16, a law which makes mis gendering illegal. Trans people want to take away my choice of what to call them.

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@Intelligence_06

Well, I'm clearly not like you then. I would never call someone "your majesty" or "sir" just because "it might hurt their feelings.

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@Intelligence_06

No, but what if I forced YOU to call me sir.

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@Intelligence_06

If I want you to call me sir and your majesty given nothing detrimental would occur would you? It's not about the effects, it's about what's right and wrong.

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@Intelligence_06

Be specific. Option A or option B.

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@Intelligence_06

As in why I am being frustrated, I'll just say that I am a very competitive person who can't really stand loosing. All on me dw.

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@Intelligence_06

Some certain individuals agree with me. You essentially did not rebut anything.

Either A) gender is in the mind. If this is the case then 1) why do people need to change their body? Why do they need to pump themselves with hormones and snip bits of themselves off. Gender is in the mind? 2) If it is in the mind, then I can change my gender as many times as I want.

or B) gender is physical. If this is the case then there is no distinction between gender and sex. However, you will not run into the issue of the possibility of changing ones gender an infinite amount of times.

Make your pick.

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@Intelligence_06

You quite literally did not rebut anything I said.

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@Intelligence_06

It's frustrating that the only reason you will win is because I lost my odd email account.

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@seldiora

Don't worry, I'm used to being the underdog. I'll win a debate about whether trans men are men against anyone. Gimme your best shot and send forth your best man.

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Hello all!

I will not be able to respond to this argument as I have a new account. I have updated my email address on my new phone and will no longer have access to my last DDA account. However, in good spirit (and because I think I have this debate in the bag), I will be challenging Intel in the following days, where we can continue from where we left off.

Feel free to friend me and ask me some questions!

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