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@Deb-8-a-bull
Maybe just an act of altruism to another person.
"And the King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of Mine, you did for Me."
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@Best.Korea
I think you do and don't have many things.
Something like a laptop, or even a notebook is 'physically small.
But if all their functions and informations were forced into a more physical form,
They would take up a vast amount of space, I would think,
If made into books, board game, DVD cases, CD cases.
Even in days before electronics, even before print,
I'd imagine people didn't 'need much.
One only has so much time, so much attention.
Having a gold palace or 1000 musicians and dancers, fish eggs to eat.
All just seems superfluous and shallow.
People had their voices, instruments, world to observe, thoughts to think.
Managed to fill their days, I assume.
. . . Though maybe some people, felt they 'needed a coliseum or street performers, the finest of wines.
I myself rather like my electronics, am accustomed to them,
Would have difficulty adjusting my attention to not be bored,
But I think I 'could adjust my attention, don't 'want to though.
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@Mall
Because my family does.
And they do, out of a mix of Culture and Religion.
My family makes a point of remembering and taking some action that for them, Christmas is about Christ,
Even if they also partake in the culture of Santa, Christmas lights, and food.
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Musing on what if the majority of birds died from disease,
And possible locusts eating all the crops.
Most types of grasshoppers are edible, I hear.
Acquiring the knowledge of how to cook, store, and preserve such,
Might help some people hold out a while.
Course the people it would help, are the ones where there 'are locusts and such.
Cities often have trouble in famine because they rely on imports,
Other than other humans, often not a good food source on hand.
. . .
Something I like about America is our self reliant culture in some places.
That one sees with preppers for example,
I enjoy the image of many families during the Cold War, preparing bunkers and supplies.
Such actions, in my view make a country strong, resilient.
I think problems should be focused on 'local solutions, more than Federal solutions.
Not that I am 'against Federal or State aid in times of disaster,
I just think it would be 'better, if the effected communities could handle it themselves better.
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I had a dream last night, where I met I chimp that could speak, albeit rudimental.
Creeped be out when I woke up,
Got me thinking on personhood again.
"How do you define "personhood"?
I am not trying to be snarky or anything. I am genuinely curious as to how people define that."
I'm 'still not happy with my own perspectives on the subject,
And again my mind turns towards Efilism.
I'm still not inclined to become a vegan, though I 'am interested on having that as a debate topic, perhaps in 106 days ish.
A conversation with someone in YouTube comments irritated me slightly,
In their statement that all people who ate meat were animal abusers.
I argued there to be a scale of abuse, as well as scale in participation.
A separation between actions and ends.
. . .
I thought they made decent arguments, unfortunately YouTube sucks as a text conversation platform (In my view).
Though I did bow out of the conversation, as I wanted to chew on their arguments some,
It's easier for me to return to such conversations on DART, than YouTube. In terms of site utility, I mean.
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@Moozer325
Stage 1
I think people clarify the living thing as a human/person.
We kill plenty of other living organisms.
Stage 2
'Is this argument dumb?
People disagree on when personhood comes about, or when we should care.
Even people who believe in souls, might have variation on when they think an organism gains a human soul.
Stage 3
Again I think important clarification is I think such people view the fetus as 'already human.
The 'potential of sperm or an egg doesn't matter to a number of people, as they do not view it as a 'new forming individual.
People get angry at people who murder school children, 'partially because of how much life they had left to live, to realize, their potential futures.
But they feel such a way, because the child 'is alive. Is human, a person.
Maybe.
Stage 4
I agree people fear government overreach.
However I'd argue the situation of a fetus and a person missing a kidney are seen differently.
On a lifeboat, a person hogging their private stash of food, would probably be forced to share, even if it violated concepts of property.
If someone had two parachutes on a plain about to crash, they'd be forced to share.
A person is also often seen as responsible for 'creating the situation of the fetus coming into existence.
. . . Replace the kidney scenario, with a kidney already being transferred to a person by accident. Lot of people would hesitate to rip that kidney our of the transplantee, especially if it would instantly kill the transplantee.
Imagine some person who keeps switching places with kidney donors because it gives them a thrill, but they don't 'really want to transfer a kidney, they always get discovered before the operation. But then they fall asleep or some accident, and they're upset their kidney is gone. They should not have been switching spots with kidney donors.
Some forum topics on the subject of abortion,
An old debate of mine,
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@RemyBrown
I prefer national borders myself.
In your view, how is forests over skyscrapers not worth it?
I think they're pretty nice myself, less smog, keeps the land strong, wildlife, camping is fun.
I don't like skyscrapers much myself, though I 'do find them impressive, especially in person.
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@Double_R
@RemyBrown
Is it really 'skin color?
There were Americans who disliked Irish immigrants,
Not 'so much because they were Irish (At first. . 'Maybe) but because they were an influx of immigrants. I assume.
. . .
Or for example, the people from the Dust Bowl https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okie
Again, is it 'really 'race?
. . .
People don't even like people one state over coming to stay and change and flood the state.
Sometimes.
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@RemyBrown
One could argue that whipping has potential to be abused or normalized by accepting or encouraging it as a governmental punishment.
Whether by parents, schools, or goverment.
It is not a 'long punishment, as prison is, there lies the potential. It can quickly be dispensed, at 'seemingly no permanent harm.
Perhaps it would be more freely used.
Some objections to it, I'd think are the degradation, humiliation, lack of respect.
Who would pass the sentence? Who would administer the sentence?
Think of the racism in earlier American days, some argue still here, but 'less than there used to be I imagine.
How 'ready some people would be to use said punishment.
Is pain and brute force, the 'ideal?
Does a person learn why not to commit an action by such?
Do they get out of their circumstances that 'led them to choose their crime?
Or do they learn another is more powerful, and that such action is acceptable in life? Are they encouraged to emulate their own whipping against others?
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@Greyparrot
Enjoy something nice, take care of it.
'Probably have less problems than a used car,
Maybe cheaper than multiple used cars, assuming the used cars keep breaking down.
Though maybe you meant you could have bought a cheaper new car,
Or maybe you meant you bought a car that is new to you, but is used.
. . . Eh.
What type of car?
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Trump's '51st state' trolling aimed at putting Canada 'off balance,' says expert
Just makes me think of South Park, and the Canada and America Wars, kind of funny.
And kind of funny imagining President Garrison being an ass.
. . . Course America and Canada fought 'early on in our histories, and time is too long that we could 'never fight again. Just doesn't seem likely in my lifetime, to me.
Not that the video is talking about war.
. . . I doubt even 5% of Canadians would want to be part of the USA. People like their own ways, tribes, culture, ways.
"The original Parti 51 was a short-lived political party in Quebec in the 1980s that advocated Quebec's admission to the United States as the 51st state. The party won just 3,846 votes, or 0.11 percent of the popular vote in the province, in the 1989 election — fewer votes than the Marxist–Leninists or the satirical Lemon Party — and was dissolved the following year.[28]"
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@Greyparrot
Nothing comes to my mind,
I think humans tend to practice ownership on anything they are around.
Though some people claim the Native Americans lacked land ownership,
Eh I say,
The concept of personal space is too fundamental for me to agree with such.
Even 'animals such as bears or hawks have territory.
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@Greyparrot
"If we do not confer personhood to a 9 month old fetus, does this mean it must then be considered property as well?"
Maybe.
Are there only two choices?
Free individual or physical property?
Though being fully grown human, does not stop others from considering one property, in all places.
. . .
If it's not a person, is it then a 'thing?
Are all 'things property?
Dogs, water, air, trees, land,
Government/Shared public trust property?
. . .
Personally I dislike a treating of humans and their parts as property.
As well as stem cell research, and fetus corpse research.
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@Reece101
I think it would be good if prison were more self sustaining,
But I think it dangerous to make prisons 'profitable.
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"Jews often had no choice but to enter this market as they were often banned from pursuing other careers. Due to restrictions on Christians lending to other Christians and charging interest, Jews were funneled into these roles. If they were not moneylenders, they often held other positions in business, such as merchants, traders, and shopkeepers."
"In 1914, Jews were well-represented among the wealthy, including 23.7 percent of the 800 richest individuals in Prussia, and eight percent of the university students.[59] Jewish businesses, however, no longer had the economic prominence they had in previous decades.[60] The Jewish middle class suffered increasing economic deprivation, and by 1930 a quarter of the German Jewish community had to be supported through community welfare programs.[60] Germany's Jewish community was also highly urbanized, with 80 percent living in cities.[61]"
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@RemyBrown
Harris
Harris being a gun owner or saying she would shoot a home intruder, does not convince me she is more libertarian, or would not pass legislation against gun rights in America if she was in office.
Additionally there is the problem of waves, her being in office, would make it more likely for 'others to pass legislation against guns as well.
Trump: Free Speech
I don't think he's doing it out of patriotism.
But I 'am inclined against Federal Censorship of the internet.
"Even when Republicans agree that content is false, they are half as likely as Democrats to say that the content should be removed and more than twice as likely to consider removal as censorship.
Partisan conflict over content moderation is not only due to disagreement about facts, but also to divergence in preferences."
Course people also claim Project 2025, is going to censor various X.
And when I think 'Conservative or 'Tradition, I 'do think back to earlier years in America when TV had a lot more censorship.
Gender
If I see a person with balls, penis, sperm,
I'm 'generally going to think male.
If I see a person with a vagina, boobs, and uterus,
I'm 'generally going to think woman.
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Alien Confused As Earth Leaders Try To Explain All The Human Genders
I sexually identify as an Attack Tyronecopter.
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Negroplasty
Immigration
I admit I am bad at economics,
But I think business owners often see more customers, as charge higher prices and keep the same minimum number of workers, at minimum pay,
Which since there are more people willing to work, there are more people willing to work for worse pay, so they are able to find their cheap labor.
To me, it sounds as though the Black Death increased wages,
But I only have shallow knowledge on the subject.
I acknowledge the value of population in economic, military, and cultural war with other nations.
But I think it is better to output people, than input people.
I lean towards city and state identity in the concepts of blood, tribe, and culture.
Where are the Native Americans?
Trump Wife
At a glance it looks as though she came over legally.
Open Borders
Ask the Native Americans.
Have More Kids
I lean towards having less people in the world.
Additionally, A nation should not have to allow foreigners in, simply because they bred more.
Open Borders
Ask the Native Americans.
Values
Ask the Native Americans.
2025 - 1776 = 249
Our blood, culture, and values. Lives beyond our own lives.
Africa
I never said them being a trading partner would be bad.
Family Values
When I think Leftists,
I think of a bunch of (Rant Removed)
I decline to comment on family values at this time.
College
I am not totally against government restructuring how they deal with colleges,
But I see no reason to excuse a group of people of debt they freely chose.
They could have chosen the miliary and how it helps pay for college.
I can't speak of the 1950s and college, I'd have to read a 'lot more.
Libertarianism
Well for one the Left (Rant not bothered to be typed out)
I decline to comment on Libertarianism.
Self Reflection
I think it is fair to say I am not managing to engage with you on a number of topics,
Personally I think it is due to my 'want to be vitriolic,
But I realize such is not constructive.
I suppose such is a failing on my part, but ah well.
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@Greyparrot
Something about people claiming to see drones,
Something something rumors of Iranian Mothership,
Government not giving clear answers on identity of the drones.
Nothing that makes me think aliens or foreign spies.
It's just a bunch of rumors so far.
Lot of possibilities.
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@Greyparrot
I have not heard enough information about them, to have any strong opinion of them.
Being in the modern world, does not stop false rumors or misinformation.
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@FLRW
"During the war, German citizens bought war bonds. However, the Jews bought gold instead. After the war, the German economy collapsed and the only thing to trade that was worth value was gold. The Jews didn't support the war effort, and after the economy collapsed they purchased up all the businesses dirt cheap."
Do you have a source for that?
The antisemitic instincts of the German Army were revealed well before the stab-in-the-back myth became the military's excuse for losing the war. In October 1916, in the middle of the war, the army ordered a Jewish census of the troops, with the intent to show that Jews were under-represented in the Heer (army), and that they were over-represented in non-fighting positions. Instead, the census showed just the opposite, that Jews were over-represented both in the army as a whole and in fighting positions at the front. The Imperial German Army then suppressed the results of the census.[4]
A higher percentage of German Jews fought in World War I than of any other ethnic, religious or political minority in Germany; around 12,000 died in the fighting.[41][42]
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (1920), a forgery which claimed that Jews were taking over the world, was widely circulated. The second half of the 1920s were prosperous, and antisemitism was much less noticeable. When the Great Depression hit in 1929, it surged again as Adolf Hitler and his Nazi party promoted a virulent strain.
I don't in 'particular.
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@RemyBrown
I think individuals and groups by nature and nurture, have more or less advantages, depending on their environments.
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@Savant
Colleges and bookstores have a 'limit to how many people they can service, I imagine.
I also would think a 'single teacher, ought have the right to refuse service to anyone they want, and to prioritize who they want.
'But,
I don't think government should subsidize such teachers or colleges.
I do agree with you, that government should encourage making education and certification cheaper and more available, so long as quality of education and proof of competency is not diminished.
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@Swagnarok
@WyIted
There 'is so much technology, both in surveillance and examining of evidence nowadays.
My mind 'also thought about all the various actions I would have taken if I had been killing someone. So much hassle.
. . . But on another hand, it also seems incredibly obvious a number of actions one ought take.
I'm not sure yet, if he cared about getting caught though.
Russian inspired?
Also occurred to me,
I suppose CEO shooter wanted to create a stir,
Though he could have always released evidence online or to papers 'after CEO death.
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@RemyBrown
Harris
Even if I treated Harris as Biden, I would have voted for Trump over Biden.
AR 15
It's not 'specifically the AR 15. If I kept looking, I imagine I would find more Anti Gun policies by Harris. Where there is one, there is sometimes more. Sometimes 'probably more.
I view 'Rights as something often lost incrementally until all gone, I do not view small losses in Rights, to 'truly be small.
Gender
I view it as a culture debate myself. I don't aesthetically agree with the culture, I think it it encourages pretend thinking, and is often harmful.
I do not wish to vote into office a party I view as encouraging it.
They can always compete in the any sex league.
Immigration
I view some problems in the world, as arising from the number of people.
I view some problems in labor and pay arising from people trying to import cheap labor, rather than addressing poor pay or bad job conditions.
I view floods of people as harmful to areas.
I don't feel strong human obligation to 'have to take in immigrants because they want to come here.
I prefer to prioritize people already here and people we have obligations to.
We had an obligation to people from the Dust Bowl, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okie, because they were Americans.
Though I still lean towards stronger State and City identities.
We had obligations to any South Vietnamese who feared for their lives due to choices in the war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_boat_people. Because of out involvement in said war.
. . . One 'could argue we have various other obligations, or just a human obligation, but such does not strongly move me.
Trump Immigration
Do you have a source for Trumps marriages and context?
I don't ask for such as proof, but context for my understanding.
Did they have passports? Acquire Green Cards?
I've also 'Never argued for Trump being a morally upstanding person, just that him being in power may result in policies and drift favorable to my views.
If John McCain was alive and ran for president, I'd vote for him.
I don't care for Trumps cult of personality, but I am not unduly threatened by it.
If we don't deport 'anybody, then we might as well have Open Borders.
1st world countries have less kids than 3rd world countries, I hear.
. . . I cannot conceive how people think it is right to allow others to usurp your blood or culture.
Only by controlled immigration can a nation retain it's values and people.
Because they then use that money to illegally send more people to America.
Besides, if Africa becomes a dependable trading partner, then said money comes back to us, along with any investments we made.
Blood
It says my genetic relatives are there.
I value family.
Generally more the closer we are related.
I do not mean to say said value is unconditional,
Though my support for my immediate family 'is.
. . . Though on another hand, a lot of that is built on relationships, if I found out I had a fourth sibling, 'possible I would not value them as highly,
Or if I found out one of my parents was not actually my parent.
But I also value relationships and pacts,
Such as the pacts of fellow citizens or coworkers.
Or adoptive family that has done right by me.
I'm not saying blood is 'everything, but it's a large number when I factor in my values and actions.
College
"seinors got college 99% or so government subsidized."
I'm not sure what you mean.
My eldest brother was a valedictorian in High School could have gotten a full ride at a cheaper college, he chose a more expensive college and got bad grades.
Too bad for him I say. He chose the harder school and did not study enough.
He also joined the military later, doesn't erase past debt, but did give new college where he wouldn't acquire more debt.
I am not familiar with College and Economics.
I see an article that contradicts you, but I still don't believe one way or another because I have not done research. I'm not saying that you have not, just that I have not and I see at a glace different views.
Libertarians Right or Left
I would imagine that Libertarians could Lean Left, RIght, or Center.
Still thinking on it.
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@RemyBrown
College
I suppose government might encourage people to go for colleges that don't cost as much,
As well as prioritizing funding colleges that seem balanced in cost and education.
Going too far, can result in underpaid, understaffed, lacking resources.
Government might also encourage common knowledge of certifications that can be acquired by testing and self study.
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Seems wasteful to topple statues of X,
Could probably make more money selling the statue as a single piece.
. . .
F****** YouTube comment locks.
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@RemyBrown
I agree that speaking 'clearer is better for politicians, than speaking in ways that can be misunderstood.
Police
It doesn't need to be 'Harris's position, what matters is that I view it as her 'sides position.
One's side get's pushed forward by their candidate being in office, even if their candidate does not make it their main push.
They elect judges, and give into their sides pressure on issues at times.
Though, I still think Harris pandered to the movement.
Guns
Source looks Far Right, but while Trump is awful straightforward,
Harris was nice but reticent.
Though it 'is too bad people judge other politicians harder than Trump.
Trans Children
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6249-if-you-have-a-random-thought-post-it-here?page=40 Starting at #1188
There are kids 'biologically who are. . . 'different sexwise,
Operations in such cases are more understandable to me, than people with mental issues.
I also disagree with the million terms for gender. Or referring to a person by the sex they are not.
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I worry about weirdo or stupid parents, who encourage stupid or play ideas in their kids.
If the kids are determined to be 'confused and 'wrong about what they are. I say let the kids grow up a bit first, random age 18?
I don't see it as something to encourage or normalize though.
I haven't thought about it deeply but I dislike the culture that pushes it so much.
Trans in Sports Movement,
Just have 4 categories for sports, men, women, trans, and any.
Immigration Movement,
I think the Left encourages immigration to the point it is detrimental to current inhabitants.
I think the Left 'can be hypocritical when they get immigrants in their cities, though some show amazing support.
I think Left cities often **** up their cities, like San Francisco, by being too permissive.
I am less about deporting, than I am about my government verbally and physically discouraging illegal immigration.
I don't really care for immigration in general, but acknowledge it's use in some circumstances, our history.
I think we should try to improve third world countries to a higher standard of living, as I think a lower standard of living results in population booms.
I think people should value their heritage and blood.
Include Everyone for the sake of Diversity Movement.
I view them as Left, I view the Left being in power as encouraging to such.
College
I am not informed on the subject to have a strong opinion,
But I 'would think excusing one batch of college kids their voluntarily accepted debt, would not fix the problem.
Libertarian Left or Right,
Certainly something for me to think about.
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@RemyBrown
Well, I don't really consider myself a Conservative,
I dislike a lot about them as well.
I'd vote for Trump over Stalin,
While Trump by his vague policies and directions 'did put illegal immigrants in camps, and separate illegal immigrant families (Both actions anger me)
Trump hasn't put 'Americans in camps. As Stalin put Russians in Siberia, not to mention all the people Stalin personally ordered shot or erased.
Sure I can imagine Trump 'fantasizing about being a Dictator, but he hasn't 'managed it yet, and I think it unlikely he 'could manage it in America.
Also Stalin's a Communist.
Maybe Trump 'really thinks he could shoot someone in the street without consequences, but I doubt it. I don't see why politicians can't use hyperbole.
Though I admit they 'can be serious, and I am not fond of it's use by politicians.
Well Kanye had that zipper gimp mask thing he was doing, as well as a past history of making controversial comments.
Trump hasn't shot anyone in the past, and it just 'seems an absurd action that would be damaging to him, far more than other small absurd small damaging actions and speeches of his.
If Trump said he was going to mock a reporter, I would take him seriously.
It's not as though Trump even said he was 'going to shoot someone. It's just him making an *** claim to stroke his ego and strut in front of other people, to mock his opposition.
I don't think Trump is crazy, though he has a lot of issues I would criticize.
He has not appointed his horse to the senate.
Off my head, I'm not very fond of the,
Defund the Police Movement,
Anti Gun Movement,
Trans the Children Movement,
Trans in Sports Movement,
Immigration Movement,
Include Everyone for the sake of Diversity Movement.
I didn't like Biden trying to excuse College Student Debt, though I would not be against him trying to reform College costs.
I was uncertain about his Covid Policies, though I did not have a solution myself.
I didn't like his policies on guns, especially when he ran he said he wasn't going to go after them.
I don't 'necessarily blame Biden for the Economy.
Harris is part of the Left, whose policies I dislike, I also wasn't impressed by her campaign.
Though I thought she was going to win.
I vaguely want Freedom and less Government.
I am not against Communities practicing and spreading Communism, but I don't want it from the Federal Government.
I want Free Speech, Guns.
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@RemyBrown
1.
Maybe Trump shot someone in self defense, or as an accident.
Are you saying what if Trump did something like walk up to a Healthcare CEO and shot them?
Well yeah, at that point he might lose my vote, still depends on his opponent though.
2.
No, I'm not going to take it back.
Hyperbole exists, exaggeration, grandstanding, playing to the crowd, saying offensive stuff to get a rise out of people.
I imagine he said it to revel in his power, or to play the crowd.
He 'still understands I imagine, that shooting a person would cost him some voters, it not result in prison time.
Trump doesn't need to be in a street fight, for me to understand by the example, of how humans socially use language.
Who is Ye? Kanye West? Well maybe Kanye isn't as popular as he thinks.
And maybe people took his claim more seriously as something he might do.
Maybe corporations trying to make money, are different than human voters.
3.
I did not like Biden, I did not like Harris.
I do not like the Left in general lately.
4.
1st Election
I voted for Hillary because I viewed Trump as an untested idiot.
I viewed Hillary as having a long career in government and familiarity and closeness with the position of president.
I liked how her husband handled the economy when he was President, though I disliked his Gun policies.
2nd Election
Later on, I've just 'really come to dislike the Left and various Left Social Movements in America.
But I still didn't like Trump very much, too divisive a person.
Covid is bad, Trump 'might have done a better job with that, but I am uncertain.
But I couldn't bring myself to vote Left, considered voting for Trump, but voting third party keeps me on more friendly terms with my family.
3rd Election
Still 'really dislike the Left, even more now, as I dislike a number of Biden's policies.
The economy is bad, but I'm not convinced that's Bidens fault.
But I 'really don't like the Left, bunch of (Profanity redacted). I don't like their policies or their movements.
I don't like their stands on Immigration, Guns, Abortion, Race, Sex.
I expect Harris to win, don't want to vote for her, Wasn't impressed by her history or her campaign.
Consider voting for Trump, but eh, voting third party keeps me on more friendly terms with my family.
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@RemyBrown
Well, personally I voted for Hillary, Third party, and Third Party, the last few Trump elections.
1. If Trump shot someone, then would you still vote for him?
Maybe, needs context.
2. What if Trump said he could shoot someone and not lose voters? Would you still vote for him?
Maybe.
What people say, isn't always what they do,
Some person might say they're going to kill someone in a fight, but they don't mean that literally.
Some people might brag about their support, to the point they claim they could shoot someone in the street, doesn't mean they 'are going to shoot someone in the street.
Who I vote for, depends who Trump is running against.
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Best wishes to you as well,
And yes, I do feel added to in concepts and viewpoints.
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@WyIted
I don't recall ever saying I would kill baby Hitler.
But to answer your question, I think many do not view the Healthcare CEO as a serial killer.
Many do, but many do not.
We can't just kill business men or politicians we don't like.
Or who support laws and policies we find damaging, too many people on the Left and Right, might view the opposition that way.
I can understand a person killing adult Hitler, if a person was a aware of the 'literal killings of various groups in Germany during Hitlers reign.
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@WyIted
As I do not have your information, I must speak theoretically.
I'd prefer that such a company and CEO was addressed by the law, society, and government.
Revenge is a selfish motive, and self destructive, this shooter has harmed himself and his family, friends, social group. 'More than he has changed society.
Richard Chambers did not go around murdering can companies or people who littered,
He didn't murder Governor Tom McCall, when McCall initially squashed the bill.
The 'shooter has a personal, and I would argue 'warped view of the second amendment,
Has a lack of understanding of the 'motivations of nonviolence, as well as how well they function in some situations.
I'll admit Maximus's action can be interpreted different ways,
Suffice to say I have a different take than the shooter.
The shooter acknowledges how Rules permeate humanity,
Yet then disregards the Law and the implications of Law.
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@ebuc
Generally speaking, I am not against families wanting to hold to their values,
Generally speaking I agree that some cultures are barbaric from my point of view,
I view a family sharing a room as being different than sharing a room with non-relatives,
Though I think families would still often 'prefer some degree of separate quarters.
. . . Regardless though, if one has the 'means to separate the sexes, I think it better to separate the sexes.
Interesting view, on human sexuality and evolution.
I think it is a fair argument to say humans and our socializations are not simple,
But I also think there is argument for not adding unneeded complexity, or acknowledging practical realities.
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@ebuc
If a boy wants to play with dolls, that's there choice, though I'd probably softly discourage it,
As I would discourage not playing with dolls, if boys playing with dolls was culturally normal.
Understanding and practicing social norms is a valuable skill.
Some individuals are very strong,
And are able to live nonconformist lives very comfortably,
But unless I knew that child to possess such strength, and had an understanding of the ramifications of their actions, I'd not encourage them to misstep.
Same as I tell someone their zipper is undone,
Perhaps it's an accident, and if not, I'd not encourage them to be outside social norms.
Even if a boy wants to play with dolls, they're still a boy,
They shouldn't room with girls.
I can understand people are prepossessed to certain actions depending on their genetics,
Killers for instance, might be predisposed, doesn't mean I should encourage their predispositions,
Understand and encourage them differently than people Non predisposed, perhaps.
For the human sex organ,
I'd assume it's either our imagination influenced our choices in mates during evolution,
Or just same as other animals that possess exaggerated body parts that influence their mating rituals, just the luck of the draw.
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@WyIted
It's too bad if it's true that he and his mom suffered,
But it does not 'justify his actions to me.
I think he is wrong, in his perspective, his blaming and his solution.
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@ebuc
You give a good and clear explanation.
I understand sex,
I understand that some people are not 'physically born as most other men and women,
I understand that organisms other than humans exist with many sexes,
I even understand that there exist organisms other than humans that can acquire characteristics of other sexes to the point of function.
I understand that cultures can develop expectations of how certain sexes will behave.
I don't think because a guy likes pretty things, is emotional, or is a bit weak, means they should try to become a woman, just be a man who likes pretty things, is emotional, and a bit weak.
I don't think because woman likes violent things, isn't wildly emotional, or is physically strong, means they should try to become a man, just be a woman who likes violence, calm emotion, and strong.
I don't think liking dresses makes a man gay, we've had cultures where men wore such clothing such as togas.
I don't think liking pants doesn't make a woman a man.
I don't understand identifying as a sex you are not,
It's not something you 'identify as, in 'my view,
I think sex is something you 'are.
Though I admit people can 'technically identify as something they are not,
That does not mean I see it as something to encourage as normal or good, or what they truly 'are.
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@Savant
@#18
Well, murder 'is often defined as Unlawful Premeditated Killing,
There's Community Law/Definition and Personal Law/Definition.
Also the existence of multiple Communities and Various People all having their own Personal Laws/Definition.
Adds a bit of haze maybe.
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@Savant
Thinking on it,
There 'are some murder situations where I might go the Jury Nullification route,
But I don't see how the murder of a Healthcare CEO is 'justified.
. . .
Hm, a Fathers child is molested by their male Judo instructor,
Father shoots the molester on their way to court.
I might not convict.
I think that it should have been addressed through the Legal system.
But I do not think the Father is likely to shoot someone again.
I do not think the Fathers actions if excused, will give possible rise to copycats. Well, 'maybe it would.
What the molester did was illegal, and seen as a great wrong.
. . .
What did the CEO do?
I'm not saying the CEO 'didn't do something, but I've not read into such.
. . .
Even if the Judo instructor was a hot woman, I'd be inclined to vote to convict her,
To discourage her repeating said action or copycats,
But I'm not sure I'd be as angry at her in said case. Hm, Chauvinist and Homophobic of me I suppose,
But I don't 'think I 'approve of the Fathers action, even in the male instructor case.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
No offense taken.
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@n8nrgim
@#13
I think communities should encourage, discourage, community legislate against sins.
Which would be lacking much 'direct force,
Home Owners Association for instance, can't have me whipped if I paint my house a gaudy color.
But 'could exert influence, or fines in certain situations, such as a community where one agrees to laws before joining.
On a Federal Level however, I think I prefer the direction of the American Constitution.
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@Savant
@WyIted
Maybe she should have done that 'more, and been more specific about what Biden and she had done that was good.
But I didn't observe last election too closely, don't know too well what she did or didn't do.
Murder is illegal,
I don't like or support murder, generally speaking,
Why should I let the guy go free if he gets brought to court?
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@WyIted
That 'is kind of funny, Monopoly money,
But I still do not support or condone the shooter.
If I was in a jury, it seems likely to me this moment, that I would vote to convict him.
(Depending on punishment being sought by prosecution)
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@Ferbalot
What 'are your arguments, and how do you link them?
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@CatholicApologetics
Well, for them to their mind 'ideally I'd assume,
Acquire various forms of art and wealth for preservation and power purposes,
Use said wealth for charitable purposes towards all people,
Try to increase the population of people in the world that share their faith,
Try to encourage values in society that align with Catholic beliefs,
Try to encourage goodwill and peace in the world.
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@Owen_T
I think it is an appeal to authority,
But I also think people (Myself included) often defer to various authorities.
Fair enough.
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I still don't understand what people mean by gender.
I still use it as a synonym for someone's sex.
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