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@zing_book
You mean Uber, Lyft, and such?
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If one got onto a bullet train going max speed for 100 years, would that person's time be effected much?
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@Intelligence_06
I always figured they made robots so mechanical looking for the aesthetic,
More than not being able to imagine human robots.

To my thinking there'd still be value in making robots look like robots,
Maybe cheaper, maybe easier to identify, maybe value in invoking less empathy.

Personally, I'm not sure 'most people in Star Wars recognize droids as sentient, though some do.
Personally I'd rather we 'didn't make sentient robots, though 'simulated/pseudo intelligence wouldn't bother me.

Also I'm reminded of a movie.
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@n8nrgim
I think I less often change my opinion from 'one conversation or in an hour,
But often change my opinion over the course of many conversations or years.
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Why not make a movie with interchangeable parts?

Where individual actors or themes could be switched,
Example, say one was filming Star Wars, do it twice, with characters of opposite sex playing everyone, Rather than the Emperor, the Empress,
Or have character's all be Japanese, or Nigerian,

Not to be 'Inclusive,
But to have changeable parts, also to be inclusive, but inclusion more for the purpose of selling a movie in another country, than feel good inclusion.
Also make it easy to switch a part to, so you have a twin 'brother/'sister,
Regardless of cast being opposite sex or not,

Be a bit of a build your own movie.
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if some adults are no more mature than a minor, guns increase murder risk
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@Intelligence_06
Depends on the restrictions.
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Bodily Autonomy
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@Danielle
I'm not sure that the Constitution 'specifically uses the words "right to bodily autonomy"?

Instead it has other rights related,
Or rights it says we 'don't have.

Then I think there's 'assumed rights it didn't even state.
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@n8nrgim
Different cultures have different age thresholds,
Different cultures have different ways of raising kids and expectations of them,
Different expectations of their outcomes as a result of that raising.
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A hypothesis on the nature of politics
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@Bones
Well, there's Politics of a shared goal, the organization and accomplishment of that goal,
American Revolution,
Though people 'still often disagree on the exactitude of goals and methods,
Jockey for position, for individual profit, glory, or that their ends be accomplished.

Politics as conflict, disagreed goals and means in the wide speaking,
People pushing or holding their morality, ethics, in-group,
Conflict of Politics becomes war by what extent of means varying,
Personal morals and ethics violated for perceived greater goods, Lying to the would be murderer at the door, in search of their victim.

Though, I'd say myself different clumps can agree on some ideas,
The fact that they 'are different clumps, often causes the need to disagree upon even that which would be agreed,
As the agreed is not the object so to speak, but victory.

Rambling.
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@oromagi
Sorry, but none of that is enough to convince me that Trump led or attempted to cause an insurrection or violent coup.
To my view many of the events and words can be interpreted more than one way.
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@ILikePie5
Well,
There was something or other about Trump urging metal detectors be removed, as he believed himself safe and/or did not believe they would attack the capital with guns. Of course the Left view will be because he wanted his armed supporters to take over the capital, but I'm doubtful,
At a gist it seems more likely he just wanted to seem positive to 'his people, and disregarded the idea of guns as dangerous, though I could be wrong.

There was something or other about Trump being angry with Secret Service telling him he couldn't go to the Capital.

Something or other about a number of people asking Trump for pardons, implication being that they either thought/knew they were doing something that was illegal, or that they could be charged with.
Though possible they did not think what they were doing was illegal or wrong, but wanted to cover their bases, or started a stampede once one person asked for a pardon.

Likely other things, but I've not been watching the hearings closely.
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@oromagi
What new evidence popped up?
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I wonder what the heaviest mannequin a human can judo throw?
. . .
Hm, would depend on 'size of mannequin as well, I suppose.
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Working on map of 'part of world, rather than world as a whole. Do you figure it would be better to 'randomize maps, in the placement of land types within territories,
Or to place land purposefully?

Random being quicker and being more like to make the wars more equal, though there'd still be un-eveness.

While deliberate would make it possible to create shapes such as faces or symbols, or instead make territory look more 'real such as mountain ridges.
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@3RU7AL
Yeah, I'd rather my conversations be private as well.
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@3RU7AL
I don't care for that ruling, myself.
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@3RU7AL
Example?

I'm not saying there 'isn't an example, several come to my mind, but I'm curious what's on yours
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@Intelligence_06
I suppose to me, the left wants to give privileges to people who don't need or deserve them,
And take away privileges from people who need or deserve them.
But that's vague of me.
Hm, Google. . .
 
"Ideological groupings. Generally, the left-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism" while the right-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism" ..."
Left–right political spectrum - Wikipedia

Eh, in the 'general Left,
I see people who are opposed to family values, who'd rather the government educate their kids more than themselves, take away guns from the citizens, encourage internationalism and immigration so that cultural values of America are destroyed, increase taxes, number of bleeding heart causes and expectation I share their opinion on said causes (Make me go to sensitivity training will you), 'force people to bake cakes for weddings they consider immoral.

The Right, vote on more a state by state basis, number of laws that divide a fair bit based on values, leave people alone in their private lives.

Course this is a 'poor perspective of either side, I get that.

Personally I'd say Fascism is 'Far Right Wing, though that doesn't go with my earlier description, my description being more complaints I have against the Left, than what I think of the Right, Right has plenty of problems, but I view those problems more as problems with the 'individuals, than the Right.
Though Right 'is known for Authority.

I also think that a lot of people on the Left end up going 'so far Left, they end up on the far Right, as if the Left and Right Spectrum is a circle, rather than a line.

Personally you come off to me as Right wing, Intelligence_06,
I don't mean that as a good or bad thing,
But I don't remember long past conversations or posts with you much,
And in recent conversations, I haven't been able to get a read much on your beliefs, values, ideologies.

But you seem to support your country and it's authority over it's people strongly, don't 'seem to like religion much in general,
Only conversation way back I recall, was something about trouble with other people in school, I 'think,
You've an extensive number of topics and posts, on DART, just none come to mind much, 'this moment for me,
I'm rambling.
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@Intelligence_06
True, there's a number of issues I talk about here, I wouldn't with people I know more familiar, family, work.
Though even here I have a filter.

I also think there's a fair number of left 'or right on this site, 'maybe,
Harder to tell than how active Alliance vs Horde are on a WoW server.
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@Reece101
Incompetence can be funny, such as a scene where Beavis is 'cooking burgers, and one just see's them half-hardy strewn across a grill, some at odd angles of atop of one another, no way they'd cook right.
It's also funny because one get's the idea that the two 'think this is the right way to cook.

Odd mannerisms, timing,
Funny faces, odd voices, mismatched timing can be funny.

Manners ill matched to a scene,
Characters behaving as one wouldn't expect, such as when the 'normal people suddenly find something funny and do the odd laugh.
Bait and switch.

The series has funny moments.
Lot of it is low brow humor though.
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@zedvictor4
Even if there was only one human in existence, I think they might find themselves a religion.
Though I suppose my definition of religion might be broader than yours.
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@Intelligence_06
Religions are usually 'ideas of ethics, morality though, accepted behavior and such.
One could argue 'any organization possesses the capability for it's individuals to use it as an ingroup or power base,
Capability to silence questions,

But morality and ethics in groups follows much the same, I'd think.
People get caught up in movements at times, ingroups, get tunnel vision on. . . assimilating others.


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@Intelligence_06
Do you consider morality/ethics more clear than religion?
If so for what reasons?
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Constitutional Revolution - a path to true democracy
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@Methusellah
How would job security work?
Term limits?
Pay for people elected?
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@Methusellah
I'm doubtful of the idea,
But I suppose one 'can make the argument that with modern technology, people have the 'ability to be constantly informed, and able to vote.
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@zedvictor4
The word "one"?
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Supreme Court has overturned Roe V Wade
Well, I suppose people can vote and/or move to states where they think abortion 'is right, or wrong.
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@3RU7AL
Well, I just foresee this as continuing in disagreement between us,
Not that there isn't value in discussion, and attempting to change another's view,
But I've not much more to say,
Not that I'm running from conversation,
I just see another disagreement coming, and would prefer to decline to meet it.
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@3RU7AL
What law are you referencing/complaining about in particular?
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@3RU7AL
Does it 'matter if one can hide candy they didn't buy from the movie theater under their coat? Movie theater 'still makes money by not allowing outside food sources.
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@3RU7AL
'Most of the time sex is easy enough for people to tell by appearance, attire, voice.
Women usually look like women, and men like men, even with their clothes on.
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@3RU7AL
Some people are androgynous in appearance (not sexual organs), but I don't think that's the same as a transexual.
I'm pretty sure you're referencing that one incident you referred to a while back,
And all I can say is that it's not how I would have handled the situation.
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@Polytheist-Witch
You make a good point,
And it's unfortunate that sexual inappropriate examples are the first that come to my mind.
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@3RU7AL
I don't recall thinking of it much at the time,
Were at least two gay guys in training,
Even if shared a room, probably only feel minor discomfort before adjusting,

Social conventions, norms.

You could obfuscate and neutral talk many instances, but it doesn't mean I'm going to accept them,
You could say people see insects and animals mate in nature often enough, or that people view it on the TV often enough,
Why should anyone be bothered by people doing it on a public bus? Or be bothered by some individual fondling themself in the public library.

I'm not trying to call trans perverted with those examples,
I'm disagreeing with your disregard of social conventions and norms.
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@3RU7AL
I don't actually know the people in the military and government's reasons.

But height, weight, age, are already factored into expected PT scores,
As well as passing various tests.
Demonstrable skill at a specific task is also taken into account in evaluations.

If the military raised standards, for women to that of men of the same height, weight, age,
Far, far fewer women would pass, I'm pretty sure,
Again, even of the same height, weight, age, the women would on average 'not meet expected performance.

Just look at sports records, how is the difference between sex not obvious to you?
You say height and weight, do you really think a person's sex has no influence on their physical ability?

Why do you think we separate motorcycles and bicycles races?
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For me It's not about,
"it means that men men can be honestly mistaken for women women (mostly by conservatives)
it means that women women can be honestly mistaken for men men (mostly by conservatives)"

It's about men claiming to be women, and women claiming to be men,
Even if they 'mean it honestly, they're still wrong,
And I disagree with society claiming they're right.

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Personally I'm conflicted on copyright at times,
The digital age and ideas are to blame really,

It makes sense that if someone discovers, designs, puts in effort, that it is 'theirs,
Incentivizes creation,

But it's also irritable in some cases,
Take character animations or models,
Thousands of times the same animation created in a game, that has been created before, and is 'this games forward punch 'really any different than the thousand of other's before it?
It can't even claim originality,
But I imagine one can't just rip the skeleton animation from one game, into their own and sell it,
But. . . It seems dumb to me.

It's sad, but I sometimes wonder if the digital age wouldn't be better off 'without so much copyright.
Course if I ever made money in life, perhaps see me change my tune. . .
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@3RU7AL
The video is satire, but C'mon, look at the difference in PT standards between men and women.
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@3RU7AL
Why people would want a separation of sports by sex, seems clear enough to me.
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@3RU7AL
What does that mean?

Personally my take is that rbelivb doesn't really think that trans 'are their opposite biological sex, and he just lies to them.
Yet there's the problem when they enter the opposites sex's sport, implying that the people who support such 'really 'do think that trans are the sex they claim.

Well, I suppose it's more complex than rbelivb just lying to trans about their sex,
 rbelivb is claiming that woman and man mean something other than woman and man.
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@3RU7AL
So what does this thread and you imply or want of people?
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@3RU7AL
Sure, and the Greeks once wore togas, I think,
'Not the same as telling one's child that they are the opposite sex, and raising them in cultural context as if they were.

So what does this thread and you imply or want of people?
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@3RU7AL
The fact that many individuals need sex surgery, implies that their sex was obvious enough before altering their body it as something else.
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@3RU7AL
Is sex not quantifiable?
Even age has problems of definition, as people vary in mental quality, maturity, but simply because exceptions exist, are we to disregard age as a basic rule?

Is it not an expectation in society that children are raised in accordance with their sex?

I'm not bothered by laws protecting people,
But I am unsure what this thread is arguing or advocating.
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@3RU7AL
If you say you are 21 and try to drink,
Bartender asks for ID.

If you try to sign up for male or female boxing,
I imagine they get verification of 'some sort.

If a guy or girl enters the bathroom/changing room/bath house of the opposite sex,
Are they not asked to leave?

The existence of this thread seems to imply that I 'am expected to pretend men are women, and that women are men?
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@3RU7AL
But men want to use the woman's bathroom,
And women to use the men's bathroom,
The sign on the door is law enough of what's expected,
But this is more about pronouns than bathrooms,
Why does the existence of X many trans, mean a need to refer to them in a false pronoun?

I don't mean to equivocate them with criminals,
The point is about numbers/percentages, not crime.

rbelivb at beggining of thread says,
"If someone asked me to call them by the pronoun "she / her" - although they were born as a male - I can agree to this purely as a matter of social convention. I do not need to believe that this person is "really" female or "really" male. In other words, just because I use female pronouns to refer to this person, it doesn't necessarily imply anything in terms of my beliefs about their chromosomes" #1

So they're asking us to lie in speech?
Why should we do this for a tiny percent?
It doesn't matter if that tiny percent is X many, if in proportion they are small,
Also doesn't matter if percent is X many if they are not enough to vote the law into being,

We should consider ourselves lucky that they are so few of the populace,
It 'should mean that their absurdity cannot be normalized.
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@3RU7AL
"Schizophrenia affects approximately 24 million people or 1 in 300 people (0.32%) worldwide. This rate is 1 in 222 people (0.45%) among adults (2)."

I'd argue if even '1 person suffered from a mental illness, it would be right to treat them with respect,
But that there is 24 million people with schizophrenia, doesn't mean I have to change laws to respect their beliefs.

Though if they were enough that they could vote their laws, I'd likely be required to.

It doesn't matter that there's X many Communists or X many Atheist or Theist,
What matters is context.

I don't mean this as a gotcha,
I just have trouble with numbers and percents application, meaning, perspective.

I have the same trouble when people say X many people died from Covid or X many people died in school shootings,
People die all the time, what I need is comparisons with other deaths, to tell me if it's enough to take concern over,

Don't want to get into argument on Covid though,
I just don't understand why . . . Hm, was .5 America or 'World for identify as trans?

But also, even if there are tiny number of criminals, we still make laws that disallow an action.
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@3RU7AL
Why does that number matter?

I don't mean that as a disagreement,
I just have trouble with numbers and percents application, meaning, perspective.
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@3RU7AL
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@rbelivb
What if there's no 2nd bathroom, or even a 1st?
Well, when there's no second bathroom, usually it's a one toilet bathroom with a locking door,
When there's no bathroom, then one is usually in the great outdoors, and must improvise.


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@Reece101
Well, I likely will have to focus on some part of the world in detail, instead of small detailing all at once,
Though I'd like the 'complete world map to be exceedingly large,

Currently I'm just roughly filling out a map,
Then once it's filled in, rearranged, parts added, taken away,
I plan on focusing on 'part of the map,
To flesh out demo idea, feasibility of mechanics, how well idea works or not.
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