Lunar108

sugar mammy is that an american word ? 

sugar mammy is that an westren word ?

extremely hard to find both in  a single male , after all tolerating an old woman for her money before moving into 13 wives including a 9 years old kid with the money of an old woman 

observed same-sex behavior in more than 450 species

So, you should beat the crap out of somebody for making a joke?

- You mean this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLzHbQLLyi0

The christian world overcame the curse of religion by thinking freely and critically as well as embrace secularism and allow the development of science. Our world is no longer culturally Christian. The Islamic world is a horrible place because they have yet to embrace secullarism. Christianity and Islam can both loose followers but the important thing is that the religious people ceise to act based on that religion.

You people act like no atheist has ever gone to religion like no one religious has ever been an atheist before. You act like people of other religions have never been Christians like people don't convert from Christianity to other religions and vice versa. You want to know why you get crap in the religion forum?

It's the religion forum. And you basically come here to tell us we're wrong, stupid, unintelligent, we've been called worm people, we've been called mentally ill,we've been called homicidal, genocidal, we've been called evil. I mean at what point are we supposed to be open-minded about the people that come here to talk to us.

Why would they question their own beliefs? If they're asking others to consider their beliefs using their own beliefs as the metric, then why would they question their beliefs by, I guess the word for it would be "impartial" methods? Are religious people claiming to be impartial?

 now let me repeat the first question would god punish people based on where they were born or who there parents are ?

According to the Bible, yes.

I'm not religious. Both of my parents are. I'm am a theist, but I don't subscribe to any particular religion. What does that say?

- Hitler is no worse than Churchill or Leopold or Mitterand or the rest of them, they all human scum who killed millions of people. The reason why Hitler is so despised in the West is just because the object of his massacres were Europeans, whereas the other's were non-Whites, mainly Muslims...etc.

- Oh, it's not OK to hurt the feelings of an American family, but it's ok to hurt the feelings of 2 BILLION MUSLIMS. Got it! Your hatred for Islam is making you delirious. It's actually hilarious.

- Do that with "f*ck niggers" or "burn Jews" or "hail alqaeda"... & see where that gets you. Different nations have different blasphemy laws. What is sacred or sensitive to you is not necessarily the case for another peoples. – It's actually sad, that "f*ck Jesus" will get you pretty much the same punishment in a Muslim country like Pakistan as insulting the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh), yet nothing but support in a supposedly Christian country like the US.

it's very vile to see kids writing extremally racist shit 

- Or deliberately pissing in mosques. No?

we are not discussing countries we are discussing religion feel free to discuss countries on the historical or political forum 

we here are on the religious forum we don't discuss about countries we discuss religion

- Then post this nonsense in the political forum.

, and I'm pretty sure that adultry is not accepted in christianity

- Would you please tell that to Whylied.

since islam copied that from christianity 

- They had to copy that didn't they! Without Christianity no one would've known that adultery is bad... But didn't Christianity copied that from Judaism. Seriously, how old are you?!

 You know what is absolutely vile? The systematic kidnapping of millions of 8 year olds & 8 months old from their families, due to race, religion or class in your own countries, & the systematic massacre & starvation of 8 years old & 8 old months in other countries. – Speaking of boys being arrested for blaspheme in the West, Police arrest 12-year-old over racist social media messages in West Midlands. ABSOLUTELY VILE! Spare us your false disgusting moral abyss. Ugh! DISGUSTING!

- I think Whylied is lying here, as usual. Why are you so worried about homosexuality when adultery is fine in your country? That's hypocritical.

"When Hitler and al-Husseini met, both leaders clearly believed that Germany was going to win, and the bulk of their conversation dealt with what the Arabs should or should not do help bring that outcome about.

Al-Husseini began the conversation by declaring that the Germans and the Arabs had the same enemies: “the English, the Jews, and the Communists.” "

https://time.com/4084301/hitler-grand-mufi-1941/

 Like that White couple who got 15 years in prison for insulting a Black family

Which is about the same sentence you will get if you blaspheme in Europe or the US, or less. 

Related by Ahmad and the four Imams with a trustworthy chain of narrators.

- No.

"an adult non-elderly free woman either in worship, or in the presence of adult straight men who aren't kin, must cover her idle body ('Awrah), thus her hair along with the rest of her body except the hands, feet & face."

"I am a very dumb person and I like playing dumb" yassine

Traditionally, the four major Sunni schools of thought (Hanafi, Shafi'i, Maliki and Hanbali) hold by consensus that it is obligatory for the entire body of the woman (see awrah), except her hands and face (and feet according to Hanafis) to be covered during prayer and in the presence of people of the opposite sex other than close family members (whom one is forbidden to marry—see mahram).[33][34][35] According to Hanafis and other scholars, these requirements extend to being around non-Muslim women as well, for fear that they may describe her physical features to unrelated men.[36]

https://blog.hautehijab.com/post/10399809-ask-haute-hijab-is-hijab-really-mandatory-fard

directly from muslim mouths 

- I don't care what Muslims say or do. Islam is God's religion, not some random opinions.

Salam, I have been wearing hijab for 11 years and the past 6-7 years of them have been a struggle, both spiritually and emotionally. I don't believe it is obligatory to wear it at all having looked time and time again at the Quranic verse, which clearly talks about covering the cleavage, not the hair. God does not mince his words - if it was meant to be obligatory, it would have been clearly commanded, not phrased the way it is in the Quran as in take your "khimar" and cover your chest. I have been on and off about removing it, because I worry that I am letting my own ego and desires cloud my judgment on this, but at the same time in my heart of hearts I just do not believe it is obligatory, more cultural - modest dress is what is obligatory, which will be coloured by the culture in which you live. Even when I wore it, I did it more for my parents who expected it from me, and I didn't want to disappoint, not because I truly believed in it.

Wa alaikum as Salam!

Thank you for your question and for sharing your concern, may Allah (S) reward you for your courage and for being honest with yourself! I’m going to first put forth the Islamic mandates that refer to hijab and then address your second point on wearing hijab out of parental expectation.

There is clear and decisive scholarly consensus (ijma`) on the mandate of hijab. The general ayah governing the head covering is in Surah Al Ahzab, verse 59 where Allah (S) states,

{يا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ قُل لِّأَزْوَاجِكَ وَبَنَاتِكَ وَنِسَاء الْمُؤْمِنِينَ يُدْنِينَ عَلَيْهِنَّ مِن جَلَابِيبِهِنَّ ذَلِكَ أَدْنَى أَن يُعْرَفْنَ فَلَا يُؤْذَيْنَ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ غَفُوراً رَّحِيماً. {الأحزاب: 59

“O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to lower over themselves a portion of their jilbabs. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be harmed. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.”

The word, jilbab in this context should not be interpreted by the modern usage of the word. According to the Lisan al Arab (quintessential Arabic dictionary) jilbab in this context refers to the khimar or headscarf. This verse specifically states that we wear the headscarf in order to be known and recognized as believing women and to be protected.

Furthermore, in Surah Noor, Ayah 31, Allah (S) states,

“And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision (i.e. lower the gaze) and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers (walyathdribna bikhumurihina alla juyoobihina) over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed.”

You are absolutely right in that Allah (S) does not mince words, but this ayah does not simply mean to, “take your khimar and cover your chest,” as you put it. The context in which the verse was revealed must be understood in order to fully comprehend the ayah.

According to Abu Abdullah Qurtubi, the 13th century mufassir (scholar who interprets the Quran), women at the time of the revelation wore their headcovers tied back behind their necks; leaving the upper chest, neck and ears bare as was the practice of the Christians at the time, as well as exposing the opening (singular jayb, plural juyub translated as “chests” in the above verse) at the top of the dress. The Quranic revelation confirmed the practice of covering the head, understood from the use of the word khimar in the verse, (which means headcovering, which was already in practice) but also explained that the custom of the time was not sufficient and that women were henceforth to tie the existing headcover in front and let it drape down to conceal the throat and the dress opening at the top.

 

When you speak of the hijab as a cultural practice, indeed it is a religious cultural practice that pre-dates Islam as there is clear evidence that Christian and Jewish women before Islam wore some sort of head-covering. (The tradition was practiced by Christian women until the 20th century, read more.) Islam perfected this practice when Allah (S) revealed the above verse, mandating that the existing head covering was to cover more than just the hair - but the neck, upper chest and ears as well.

Allah (S) gave us clear reasoning from the ayah above as to why we wear hijab – in order to be known. Quoting Anse Tamara Gray in her article, "Lean In - Our Feminist Manifesto” (which I highly recommend you read in full), 

“Like a sports team – We recognize each other. Like an ethnic background – we feel comfortable with each other. Like a flag held high in the field of battle – we bravely go out each day – in every country of the world – and represent our Prophet ﷺ – our religion. We represent our men, who too often blend into the background, and we represent our hurting women who need our activism. We represent any woman of faith unsure how to outwardly express her conviction. We wear the scarf that we may be known.

The second part of the verse, ‘that we may not be harmed’, is not a guarantee of a flawless life. It does not mean you will not receive hurtful words from an ignorant soul; it does not mean you won’t be mocked, or even that you won’t be oppressed. Indeed, if we look to the prophetic example we understand that neither men nor women ran from physical pain, or life-threatening situations. If we look at Mecca and then later at Medina, women easily put themselves in danger to defend their faith; they did it with the approval and support of the Prophet ﷺ – women at battle like Um Salamah and Nusaibah bint Ka’b, women on missions like Asma bint Abi Bakr and Rufaidah al Aslamiyyah, women who fearlessly spoke the truth and risked personal hardship like Um Sulaim, and women who risked their emotional wellbeing like Zainab bint Muhammad ﷺ.

When the verse was revealed, {that the women should close their scarves at the dress slit} [al Nūr: 31], it is narrated by ʿᾹʾishah (R) that the women tore their embroidered fabric, fabric that was decorated with pictures of tents – in other words, fancy fabric that was more than likely of some value to the women, either in time spent embroidering or in money invested in purchasing. They tore this fabric and covered themselves with it. It is akin to the Muslims throwing their alcohol in the streets when the verse forbidding alcohol was revealed. No one ran around looking for a man to ask permission of, nor did they question their own interpretations of the verse. They understood. They followed through. They leaned in. And we follow in their footsteps when we too lean in and embrace this flag of our religion, this hijab."

Muslim women wear hijab because the Qur’an unambiguously orders us to, and there is no qualifying text or hadith or even any lexical possibility to show that the Qur’anic order might mean anything besides obligation. The ahadith all confirm this obligation and the vast majority of Muslim scholars are in unanimous agreement about it and have been from the time of the Prophet (S) down to today.

Now, it sounds as though you wore hijab simply because your parents expected you to, in your own words, "I did it more for my parents who expected it from me, and I didn't want to disappoint, not because I truly believed in it," and there’s nothing wrong with wearing hijab because it’s expected of you, but wearing hijab without conviction is like praying without wudu. Sure you’re doing the actions, but how much are you really benefitting from it? Personally, I myself wore hijab because it was expected of me, and it was fine. I didn’t have much conviction in wearing it but at the same time I was 13 years old. It wasn’t until college that I truly understood the meaning behind hijab – and actually felt it protecting me and setting me apart from other women. I watched as men would hit on other women as they walked by and put their heads down when I walked passed. I learned to appreciate hijab on a level that made me take ownership of the decision. It was no longer out of obligation or to please my parents, it was for myself. It was now between myself and Allah (S).

My advice to you is to take ownership of your hijab. Take the time to truly understand these ayat and the reason hijab was prescribed. Take the time to examine yourself and your own “ego and desires,” as you put it, and where this underlying doubt is coming from. Is it because vanity or love for dunya is getting the best of you? Do you feel like wearing hijab is bringing you down in some way? Think about what is at the root of these feelings and address them head-on. Make sincere du’a that Allah (S) opens your heart to the truth and continues to allow you to be honest with yourself. Of course, you always have us to lean on and we pray that you find the conviction in hijab your heart is seeking, with the help of Allah (S). 

Have a question? E-mail us at [email protected]! If you're thinking about wearing hijab, check out our style guide, check out our New Hijabi Starter Kit and get started here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HbElEqm1TQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duspZzvrIKo

- Examples of footage of women in England wearing Hijab not even a 100 years ago, before Feminism. Hijab, or head covering, was the norm -& still is- among free women or noble women in all human societies (except the post-modernist West & the like).

- Yet, pre-Islamic desert Arab women did not wear head covering... despite the fact that Arab women in Rome & Persia did. Funny fact, Arab women used to go around the Kaaba fully naked to perform repentance. Until the beloved Prophet (pbuh) came & banned that practice. The more you know...

- Actually there is no mention of Hijab (as head covering) in the Quran or the Hadith, or the first 13 centuries of Islam. It's a pretty recent terminology. The issue is about Awrah (private body), i.e. that which must be kept private. The person's 'private body' varies from nothing to the entire body, depending on the age, status, gender, practice, environment & legal school of said person, & also on the age, gender, sexuality, faith, relationship & decency of the others around. – which makes a very long & complicated list of rulings. The designation of 'Hijab' as a head covering is, in fact, a 19th century invention to push back against Colonial allegations accusing Muslim women of being oppressed by men to cover their heads. This was back when European women had no property rights, no divorce rights, no contraception rights, no education rights, no vote rights, no inheritance rights... & so on, contrary to their Muslim counterparts... I guess the only thing the dumb Colonials could feel good about is how the "oppressed" Muslim women wore head-scarves while their "free" women wore fancy hats. 

The Prophet Muhammad did not try to abolish slavery, and bought, sold, captured, and owned slaves himself. But he insisted that slave owners treat their slaves well and stressed the virtue of freeing slaves.