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@nagisa3
Im not sure what you mean literally. I believe the Word of God is jesus christ himself and therefore true.
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@secularmerlin
Of course! i was skeptical until i experienced the Holy Ghost and the healing of God.
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@secularmerlin
use the text, what the text doesn't refer or apply to, depend on the spirit.
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@disgusted
Life without evil is an unobserved claim as far as we are aware of, doesn't mean its impossible. and you are right, man will be a new creature without sin, what mankind used to be in the garden of eden before sin was introduced to his nature.
However it is impossible to have a life without evil if you refuse to believe in God.
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I believe the Lord gives us access to herbs and other such things to help in healing, not because lack of faith, but because of the dispensation of grace toward us to have herbs to help!
But i agree that there is a difference between addiction to pills and other things and simply drinking hot tea and honey for a cough.
I agree with what you are saying, i don't take pills, I trust in the Lord to help me, but im not above using natural remedies to aid me when things get tough, cause like outplayz said, when you are in severe pain, you just want it to stop, you don't care how or why, just make it stop asap!
The problem that many people do get on medicines is because they don't have God in their life or they are doing things that harm them, many mental problems are caused by spirits and ive seen many people healed of pain, cancer, and other things at an altar as the church prayed for them.
I don't doubt the power of God, I believe healing will come if we ask in faith and are willing to humble ourselves to God. Other times, God may direct us to knowledge of things he made to help us.
I believe that verse has more to do with meth, weed, and other things.
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@disgusted
So basically you are saying existence has value because of evils? Or are you just stating a unrealistic view of such a thing as "Life without evil?"
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I believe it shows a similarity in dress appeal, a likeness if you will. and sometimes it brings comfort and security in knowing you can put on the clothes of someone you love and that you are like them in some way.
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Well, i look at things from a theistic moral absolutism, basically what God says is right is right and what he says is wrong is wrong. I honestly have no idea how to think in a moral relativistic manner.
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@secularmerlin
im aware of this.
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@disgusted
easy! just obey his word and you don't have to worry about it! If you want a life of sin, you can have it! sin doesn't stop on this life, it continues in hell and in the lake of fire. But righteousness and peace endures too!
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@secularmerlin
Prophecy is more than just foretelling what will happen, its also encouragement and mandates to obey the Lord, often prophets condemn sin and stress to the people to return to the Lord and know better times, Joel talks about how the land will be restored for example.
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Id say it has made life easier in regard to less physical labor, but id argue that it opens another door way to mental and emotional fatigue. It has more to do with moderation i think than what kind of work it is.
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@disgusted
free from sin, pain, sorrow, death and other such evils.
So paradise is just a synonym for nonexistent. I can go for that.
because you seem to equate nonexistence as similar to either evil or good.
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actually, talking to animals is quite common in witchcraft, i invite you to research it! But the way animals often is speak is through a spirit, in the case of balaam, God opened the mouth and allowed it to speak, in other instances you will find demonic spirits giving similar abilities.
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@disgusted
Actually the first writer was moses as far as we know (idk who wrote job) and He had direct communication with God.
Im sure many primitive societies invented Gods, the ones you need to watch out for are the ones who had a God revealed to them.
How would i know how many people believed in God?
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@disgusted
thats what im talking aboutSo paradise is just a synonym for nonexistent. I can go for that.
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@disgusted
Simple, because you have never non existed, but you have sinned. Unless you didn't exist for a brief period of time and somehow were consciously able to describe, interpret and retain feeling/memory, I can't understand your sentence.
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Tripe? ill have to google that. Im being honest. How can you misery equal to not existing? have you ever not existed?
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@disgusted
You are absolutely right, primitive desert dwellers don't know beans about God, Thats why holy men moved on by the spirit of God wrote the bible.
Billions? where are you getting that number from? do you billions of people who don't believe in God?
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@disgusted
I did read what you posted, from my understanding you seem to believe that life without sorrow and pain and etc would make us NOT human and you seem to think we would be stripped of will or understanding or something... But you still haven't answered my question on if you have experienced Joy or peace.
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From the elder scrolls series, particularly morrowind. Can anyone interpret and understand those things? I get a little bit like how vivec defeated the idea of coincidence/luck through exposure of sychroncity and the implication of meanings, but the rest is kind of blurry for me.
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@disgusted
Sin is like a disease, i would think humanity cured without it! however you didn't answer my question.
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@disgusted
I cannot even fathom how you make sin equal to non existence or even related to it. Haven't you ever had Joy or peace?
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Ephesians 1:4-13 makes it clear that the righteous were foreknown and then predestined. The same can apply to sinners. But we don't know what we are until we have rejected the faith altogether or we believe in it. Until we take our last breath, there is hope!
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The true humans we once were. If you want to speak of true evolution, Humans can achieve it through christ. We become a new creature through him and his spirit.
The bible is written by holy men as they were moved by the spirit of God. But more than that, I myself am a Witness for Christ and his salvation through his blood, his word and his spirit.
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@disgusted
sorry, forgot to mention reciever again.
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the scripture doesn't tell of a cow jumping over a moon. Don't use sarcasm when speaking to me, i don't do well in interpreting it. It took me a minute to just realize you Might? not be speaking in regard to scripture. infact im still not sure.
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I would like someone to debate the topic of torture, is it needed? does it work? should agencies use it to obtain information? Is the information from torture more likely to be true than if torture was not used? Sources?
Ill go ahead and advocate one source specifically for U.S. The Senate Intelligence Committee Report On Torture.
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you do have a choice because you don't know. Its like tv tropes of disarming a bomb, you can chose the red wire or the blue wire. one of them will potentially disarm the bomb, the other will set it off, but if you do nothing it will go off anyways!
So you can make a choice to seek God instead of chosing to rebel against God or doing nothing about it.
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A good example of a person who was a prophet but didn't obey God was balaam in numbers 23, he hated israel so much he often sought enchantments against them and was bought by balak to curse them. God told him not to and he built an altar to God and prophecied of Jesus's Birth, and talked about the star that signified it. And he even blessed israel afterwords! Telling balak that he cannot go beyond God's command. Even though later he tried to curse israel and the Lord made the donkey to talk to him to save his life.
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God is able to express himself in more ways than one, if you have had out of body experiences or have had visions or miracles, those fall perfectly in the perimeters of scripture. If God gives you the ability to prophecy and it comes to past then i cannot fault you for being used by God. However, a prophecy must always come to past exactly as it is said. And there have been prophets who did prophecy, but turned away from the faith. The gifts of God are without repentance after all.
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Paradise most fundamentally defined is being present with the Lord and free from sin, pain, sorrow, death and other such evils.
Sin defines its self through disobedience to the law of God. In taking pleasure in the pain, disorder, betrayal, depression and physical pleasure more than the hope, love, brotherhood/sisterhood, joy etc that others experience.
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I liked the next generation better, though i won't deny that the original one had a lot of good episodes! KHAN!
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@secularmerlin
Prophecy is an irrelevant red herring.
If i prophecied you would be struck by a semi truck 3 days from now, are you willing to accept that prophecy is not irrelevant?
or if i prophecied that a friend of yours would recieve 33.000$ in 2 days and it happened, would you give credience that there is a God who knows all things?
Ive found people say things are irrelevant when it doesn't apply to them. could you imagine having a prophecy of God telling you what will come to pass in your life?
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rest from sin and being present with the Lord are one and the same, you can have no spiritual rest without the Lord being present, infact you cannot even have life without the Lord being present. But we will take on his image and likeness.
The word is proof enough, if you understood what the word actually is, you might consider the implications when i say the bible is proof. Jesus Is the word of God. If God is true and not a liar, then everything the bible says which comes from God is truth.
revelations, daniel and parts of romans, ezekiel and zechariah make it clearer.
My own testimony is greater to me. His word abides in me and his spirit as well. I am the Lords brother. not physically, but in works and spirit. as is all those who are born again of the water and of the spirit that have a promise of eternal life.
make no mistake, Christs death gives us the ability to repent and not be bonded by sin. But sin abides in humans still and it will be no more when we reach that place. All sin is gone.
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common sense is also based on our belief through observation. The only thing that holds people back from believing in God is believing there is no proof of him.
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and not only does he know where you are going, he actively working in your life to try to save you from sin. Even if he already knows you will rebel or resist him.
with knowing comes choice, without knowing comes restriction.
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Also, God may know where you are going, but you don't. as far as you know, you could be one of the elect of God just waiting on the right message or spirit of God to change you.
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God knowing you are going to hell and God fore ordaining you are going to hell are 2 different things. Hezekiah was decreed by God to die, yet he prayed to the Lord and he added 15 years to his life.
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God knew before and was actively working in his life. God was using every form he could to try to convince him that he was sinning and was still showing mercy by letting him live, though he foreknew and fore ordained that he wouldn't make it. So when judgement comes, even though he did evil and was destined for it, he couldn't argue with God about it cause God was merciful to him regardless and he still had a life that he made decisions in and lived it the way he wanted.
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Distant world is obviously a bot. please investigate.
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@distantworlds
are you a bot or do you just not recognize the sumerians ideology and their religion and religious influences?
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@distantworlds
actually nephalim or giants before the flood are the result of aliens (angels) interbreeding with human females.
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@distantworlds
one of the first statues that is based in sumerian economy showed satan pushing eve backward into the tree of life. Id argue sumerians helped to prove the spiritual nature of God.
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