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The reason I am saying earth is the best target is so we don’t to risk him coming in with the item on the last day phase if he is scum and he is in the lynch pool. Savant has a perfect order for this. 

I can 50/50 who I track between Mharm and banana. 

they can’t kill me because they lose a night phase 

I either will track one to a kill, or I don’t. If I get no results from tracking then the other is scum 


We can hit scum near perfectly with this and not risk the game. 

Then the question is, who is the last one. High odds it’s banana and Mharm. I even read earth as mostly towny but if that’s wrong we lose. 

Savants plan with what I started above is the correct path and covers all our bases 



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@Moozer325
It’s not 90 percent. You are absolutely town locked. For him to think you are scum, he would have to think we both are scum or his logic is non sensical


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@Moozer325
Just a pool. Because he says he copped you doesn’t mean he did. He could have lied as scum and have the scum item (as scum he would know you are inno). I think it’s less likely than Mharm and Ana but it’s a possibility.

But we need to unvote because if he has the scum item and is scum. They can coordinate and end the game 

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Luna just woke up and told me if I mod killed myself the role would still take effect. Meaning I can do that but it would still result in the day phases being skipped. He was pretty annoyed. 
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Also now that I’m not as annoyed. I also had the option of the only protective item/role in the game that we have seen this far . There is a def a balance to this game somehow and it inclined to think mafia can mess with us cus of all the items. 
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I’m fine with leaving it. 

My reads are the same because I know moozer is locked and will post that for confirmation if I’m the target. Just ping me before you do it. Going back to work 

Pool is 

Ana 
Mharm 
Earth. 

Earth hedges our bets and if we are comfortable with that at least we probably have a 50 50 with other 2 
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@Mharman

I don’t know how else to say this nicely. You suck and continue to suck after 5 years. It’s never ending. Great person and I like you as a human but you suck.  Stick to Overwatch. At least your plat in that. 
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@Savant
I think a lot of people wrote it. I’m a lose cannon but I’m trying to be nice and not bully the retard. 

Either he is town and dumb 
Or he’s scum 


I’m so tempted to just let myself die so I can laugh at him if he’s town but there is a high chance he’s scum and I don’t want to ever have him say he beat me. I’ll feed town the win.  Trying not to tilt from retarted reads and be reformed. 
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@Mharman
Mharm I have above a 60 percent win rate as both factions. I’ve lost once on mafia scum in like 10 gsmes and the only reason I lost on ddo a lot is killing myself constantly to teach town lessons when they are being dumb. I also am one of the best live players on the site. Normally I’d just say I’m scum and have you hammer me to laugh my ass off when scum wins and then point and laugh at you when you see how shit your read is. Then make fun of you all year. 

But I don’t want to do that with semi new players and mafia dying on here. I will feed town the game though before I let you tank it. 


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@Mharman
I have mod killed nyself constantly in games lmao. Ask wf or bullish. I play to win and Luna knows what he gets when he brings me in. 

That’s not a bluff , it’s logical. If I die, at least it’s not costing 2 day phases and it town locks moozer because it will show his exact role. You vtnl and it’s the same as a bad lynch. Where as if town lynches me , the game is likely over. I’ll wait to see what town wants but I’m confirming.  I will not be lynched. I’ll just mod kill mysekf before the hammer so the game is saved from your shitty play. 


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@Mharman
Bro you are scum or just bad at the game. 

Anytime I think you get better you read so heavily into pm and mod pysch you always tank the game. It never fails. You go back and re read and go off to narnia when your initial reads were way better than you came up with. The shitty part is that it’s NAI so it’s why I can never read you.  

Did the same shit last game and we’re doing it 5 years ago. On god it’s painful. 
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If we vote me do not vote me. 

I’ll screen shot the part I got about moozer so he is confirmed for Poe and mod kill myself if we go that way. I cannot be lynched or the game is likely done if my math is right. 
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@Mharman
They are instantly unvoting is the thing. Sitting it there as a conslusive read without even considering they could have that is very bad town play or inside knowledge lmao 
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Actually that math is all around. Didn’t even consider. 

If I get lynched. The game is likely over. 


I will percent mod kill and you guys can VTNL if it goes that way. My reads Havnt changes but I see where the mixup is confusing and don’t fault the read. 

Can’t control what Luna tells me 
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@Mharman
I know what you said. It’s the fact you didn’t worry at all or even consider that as an option that in referring to. 

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No one needs to vote anything until we decide together. If they do have the vote control thing 

1 vote + 2 + that is gg 

Would be 3 kills assuming we can’t stop it and that’s over. 

Takes it to 6 when I die and they get 2 night kills. Which would be 2 to 2 if my math is right. 
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@Mharman
Is this a slip. 

Why are you confident a hammer won’t come through? 
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Also my  pm specifies during one night I can play jeopardy and risk it all. I’m assuming he www referring to that. Because I’m gambling the beloved princess role for an item. That action to play takes the night action. 


I’m assuming this was a miscommunication because I never clarified if I could use 2 items and was assuming because of what he said it was 1 action per np
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Back from work break. Yeah I went back and read. 

I even asked him about this and said, “this is exact role?”  

And he said  “i had to check moozers pm lol” 

It would have given me someones exact role for sure. 
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If savant uses his role we likely just outright lose. Cus then you have the same pool and you have to get the lynch right on a 1/3 (well 2/3 more likely) at that point if the vote thing happens to be in play. I’d rather just mod kil myself since savant is largely town read and I think he is basically locked and you have a stronger Poe. 

Assuming that argument is bought. But I can’t control the information Luna gives me or what he said the role was. 
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@AustinL0926
I mean confirming him as popular townies nukes the reason for a cc. 

I just don’t see a world where that exists 
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@Mharman
I agree with this part. I asked him about my night action and if I got an item later could I use it along with playing double jeopardy and he told me no. 

I took this as confirmation that only one role could be used but there is technically a difference I guess. But took that as all roles. I can confirm when he’s up. But I think this was a misunderstanding between the jeopardy being used at same time as an item. 

I do see where it looks wrong and don’t blame you for that read. But the rest is stupid 
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If I start to get pushed I’ll just copy the message and Imgur it so I’m mod killed instead of you guys losing a day phase. 

not that I care about your logic. It’s never solid but i can see where his confirmation of how the roles are used is contradictory to what I was told. Happy to post it if he lets me. 
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@Mharman
I don’t know what to tell you bro.  

You are saying two things that are completely opposite from was told to me in pms. I’d be happy to share if lunatic allows it. M

I literally copy pasted the spelling 
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As far the part about Luna saying two roles could be used. I was told I could use one “action” during np1 when I asked. If he allows me to share the screenshot I will. I didn’t confirm last night phase, I only had asked when I used the double jeopardy’s portion during the first night phase. 

He may have been referring to the jeopardy role and the use of another item but that is how I interpreted it 
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Also moozer was not role confirmed. Moozer was tested and Lunatic often and I mean very often uses popular mafioso as a way to throw town. 

I would rather confirm what his role was. Because it would indicate whether he was a popular townie or popular mafiso. Which heavily gives credit to Austin 

With the wf flip, him having access to all his stuff, me having access to a role cop or a doc if I got my question right (and savant had claimed investigation) 

There is a high chance scum could have a lawyer, redirector, godfather, bus driver or something to fuck with town roles. 

So yea confirming moozer locks in Austin. 
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that is an essay and I will try to read through that all later. Yes role cope works that way and yes I was given the result 

“Popular townie”

I confirmed with Luna it would say townie or mafiso before I picked between that and the doc. That’s not a scum slip you doofus. It’s literally how he gave me the role. 
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not only that, if he uses it we still have the same lynch pool and we are down a lynch. No world he should use it. It's just a free loss at that point
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@Savant
If i get lynched it skips a day phase, if I get killed it skips a night phase. I am not sure if that is a variation?
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@Savant
nono, It was only once. It was like risk it all shit. I got to pick between those 2 items and if I failed the question I am vanilla. So it's done. I just still have the tracker because I used the role cop last night
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@Savant
I can only have one night action a night, and it was a 1x rolecop. I still have the tracker to use whenever 
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was half hoping they would come after me last night and was trying to bait the kill, but I guess i did actually scare them when I said I had a plan for that. 
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@Savant
I am the beloved princess. 

But part of my role is I can play double jeopardy on one night phase. I went all in on np1. Got to pick from 2 categories and if I got the question right, I got to pick between a doc and a role cop. Doc didnt make sense cus me dying helps (confirmed I could self doc), and i'd be guessing who they could kill. Took a role cop to confirm someone at some point in the game after they claimed. Moozer made the most sense since he also locks austin. If i got the question wrong, I would convert to vanilla. Was like a risk it all thing  
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@Savant
wait do you know something I don't? My assumption was a player got it and if they died, it went down with them. Are you saying, their team will still have it even if he dies?
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@Savant
Yes he's confirmed 

popular townie - that is an exclusive town role 
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realistically we have the lynch order and doing him first just makes sure they don’t have the item but by Poe we win unless savant is a god and I just can’t see him as scum. 

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@Moozer325
just because he said he copped you, doesn’t mean he copped you. I think with certainty there is 1/2 between Mharm and banana. That leaves the question who would be the third in that scenario. It has to be earth unless savant is playing out of his mind 


And if he is scum, he has the vote thing. So you leave him alive and he is scum they just win when the numbers get low. If he flips town those two by default are the scum team. And even on some odd chance some fuckery is going on, I can 50/50 them with the tracker. 
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@Savant
I think it makes no sense with the math. I think earth is the safest lynch and I still have an item. 

They can’t kill me or they lose a night phase and I can narrow down even more Poe tomorrow with tracking tonight. 
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Hedges bets 
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@Savant
Yeah this makes sense from what I can see. Should be home soon to type up shit 
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Kinda sus on the people wanting you to use it tbh 
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@Savant
That’s my point. 

I don’t think it’s worth 

Cus I think that just ends the game if we get the 50 50 wrong if there are 2 scum. 
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If you used it, it would make more sense to use it on earth but then we have a very high chance of a 50/50 the game ends if he comes up town, I think assuming 2 mafia. If my math is right.  


If he comes up scum we just likely auto win but don’t think it’s worth the risk 



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@Moozer325
This is more my thought process yes. 

I think it confirms Austin more than earth. Which was why I used it. I think you two are basically town locked 

But those 2 seem the better choices all around. I think the argument for earth is that if he is scum and has the vote thing. He just auto wins on the last day phase. 


Reason I picked you over him was the investigation result. Say I went to him and his role is real. Then we have the question of if a god father exists (which it could) with all the cops. Could be all kind of stuff. 

I would rather confirm 2 people over 1 


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I’m wrong lol. 
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Never mind 
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@Savant
I have a solve. 
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@Savant
Does the dp end ?
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@Savant
I see it all the time. When you are about to die it’s an appeal to emotion. But I think it’s less likely than the other 2 



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