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So I think the solve is as follows.
1) luna is lying. (sorry have to say it)
If he's telling the truth. I will get a message saying I'm recruited
This confirms him, the recruit, and me. I don't get a message. There is no recruit and it's a gambit.
If luna is town , he knows there is a recruit and he's Truthfull
Recruit is reading this. He visits me.
Town confirms 3 people.
After that if I'm town confirm. And I'm targeted. I'm still around to vote
If recruit does , then you have to lynch me.
Makes mafia
1)pick between luna who If telling the truth is confirmed
2) yolo try to kill the recruit to force a mislynch on me.
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Or maybe supa was hinting at BP and I read it wrong entirely
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@Lunatic
Just killed , if it was my lynched I would volunteer myself.
I think supas works as lynched. That would be my bet
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Even better the recruiter will be dead.
Just make sure I'm the target.
It forces mafia to pick between
1) you as the kill
2) hope they yolo and hit the recruit
If recruit is hit , I get mislynched but odds are in our favor
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@Lunatic
Game is over if all of this is true.
Openly say you are going to recruit me.
Dont say who the recruiter is.
If we have a random death, I'm scum confirmed.
(That won't happen. Recruit can confirm me next dp)
Then If I'm the target of a nk , I stay around to vote regardless
Openly say you are going to recruit me.
Dont say who the recruiter is.
If we have a random death, I'm scum confirmed.
(That won't happen. Recruit can confirm me next dp)
Then If I'm the target of a nk , I stay around to vote regardless
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@SirAnonymous
I had a suspc of what he was. His likely works after lynched as well.
Could be wrong
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Based on supas soft claim. I suspect there is a lot of "staying around after death"
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F also missed the odd night compulsory.
No reason not to out anyway. I won't be the target of a nk cus I'm the easy mislynch
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I want to poe this game down
I'm adrenaline junkie. If I die at night , I stay around for one extra day
And die during the next np
I'm going to get pushed as a mislynch , would rather get shot to self confirm.
Confirms us both and you can recruit someone else
(Say who you go for )
Game is over poe wise
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@Lunatic
1) this has to be true (mason thing )
2) mafia had a recruit with judas , so I buy it
3) why in the fuck would they recruit you as town if everyone other than me thought of you as confirmed
2) mafia had a recruit with judas , so I buy it
3) why in the fuck would they recruit you as town if everyone other than me thought of you as confirmed
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@Lunatic
I didn't fully iso and missed a lot. Said I was skimming.
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For clarity it's not contrived.
Luna will agree with this because he's called you out on the same thing. You have a habbit of just being indecisive as mafia.
I'm giving reads because luna said I hadn't which was a valid critique.
I'm also not off luna. There is just no way to get a lynch or build a case. What do I do. Keep tunneling him to have no one listen to just get myself lynched for being stubborn
Also reading this in iso moved him to null. Danielle had posted something I missed (I never read the op, bad habbit ) that said the "mod would post"
If I take that literally then the riddle does likely town confirm him
Or she's bastard modding.
So me beating my ahead against a wall to get nowhere is not helpful
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@Lunatic
First dp only
Not this dp
Re read her initial stance and watch how it changes when she agrees with me
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@Lunatic
You don't find her post that I quoted weird at all?
That sticks out to me like a sore thumb.
I could buy annon as newb town.
He's either newb town or coasting. One or the other
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@SirAnonymous
I did read it. Maybe hard is a stretch but you geninuly thought avoiding him was a good idea
Then we're swayed very easily.
It's almost like coasting.
Magic also has that habbit where she just rides the waves as scum
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Want to look back Into the exact wording of Danielle's post as far as "mod will post riddles"
If it says that , I likely have to concede my case. Bothers me magic did read that and went with it.
If it says that and mafia posted it somehow it's bastard modding.
Lynch pool is likely
Magic
Anon
Parrot
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@SirAnonymous
Sure but I'm game there is hardly no justification from you as to why.
You went from a hard don't lynch to a sure with little to no explanation.
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Also has been coasting. Maybe new ?
So far
Scum lean in order
Magic
Anon
Null
Gp
Luna (this went from scum to null. Speed posted something where the mod said. "she would post the riddles. I entirely missed this dp1.). Will read wording to this later
Town
Speed
Supa
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From around post 30
Then at around post 90
Anon went from not wanting to lynch to being willing nearly out of no where
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I don't know if I actually need to iso supa. Only supa would basically claim some role on his second post as town and hint at death utility?
I can't see him doing it as scum. He usually is quiet
Supa as town is a vocal tp and doesn't think before he writes. So this is right up his meta as town
Enough that I feel I don't need to really read to much more into him unless something really sticks out to me. He tried to call speed scum with bad logic but that's because he can't read.
What do you expect from a trump lover
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The quote below really really bothers me. I never really realized how much until I read it in iso
1) magic was really willing to vtl pie to test prior to this
2) went from that to being willing to vtnl
3) and completely 180ed on her logic prior to this
This sticks out to me because it was a super hard 180
1) magic was really willing to vtl pie to test prior to this
2) went from that to being willing to vtnl
3) and completely 180ed on her logic prior to this
This sticks out to me because it was a super hard 180
I would really hate to say this, but Mikal is making sense. I think it is very bastard to have a misinformation riddle, but at this point my thoughts are we should either lynch Luna or not lynch this DP. Comment #12 bothered me too, when I read it but it was just a gut check. In hindsight I think Luna embraced the riddle too willingly. I feel like Luna is usually more inclined to point out that nothing is certain and no information is guaranteed as town. Also, lynching Luna has the benefit of informing us whether we can rely on the riddles and will provide retrospective reads on a bunch of players. But I am also okay with VTNLing.If everyone disagrees on whether lynching Pie and him not dying this DP proves anything affiliation-wise, then this shouldn't be on the table anymore.
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Grey parrots mostly seems okay , other than his role claim which was weird af
I lean town on speed. Most mafia won't be consistent with their reads. Him pointing out to supa dp1 that he read magic as town (this wasnt instant, he remembered his reads) implies that he actually had developed reads and was consistent with them. His reaction dp1 to the mod riddle seemed geniuine
The only thing that half bothered me was the fact of him saying role madness. I didn't get that at all and I read it as trying to set up the lack of trust in roles but I think he piggybacked this off magic
Going to iso but just post reads instead of how I did it there. Will take far to much work compared to mafia scum.
For now I town lean supa
With a wtf ???? On top of grey parrot
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It just flusters me when people buy into a town confirmation so easily in a theme riddle game for gods sake.
His motivation to kill pie definitely can exist as scum. Again I point back to last night.
But that's it about this subject. If I get a break at work or before I play bdo today , I'm going to take the time to iso every player and take notes. Don't know how to work this site on my phone well so probably will write them on a piece of paper and then upload to imgur and post the link
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@SirAnonymous
Also it's not anti town. Not letting him walk buy as town confirmed should be a norm. I'm just having to defend myself from saying that non stop which is why I want to move on. Its clogging the game
If you want to think he's town confirmed as perma thing. Then do it.
If you want to need advice and at least keep in your mind that he's not. Then do it.
I will not successfully push it and no one wants to even second guess it. You are only as good as mafia as much as you can convince people. I have no way to convince people to even entertain the idea so it's a lost cause to keep on about it at this point other than answering questions directed at me
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@SirAnonymous
Iso is a term in mafia that means you take each player (or a specific player ) and read their posts and only their posts to form reads. It allows you to see breaches in logic or sudden flips in posting style to help develop reads.
I usually iso the entire game and do it for each player.
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If you want to vote me , vote me. But I actually want to move on past this. I fos you. I can't lead the lynch, and I am letting mafia win at this point by cluster fucking the page by arguing.
Which is probably your intention
But if I can't get you. I want to go back and actually iso this to focus on other people
With the amount of people here. The judas lynch was likely the (tp type roll). So prob 2 mafia
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@Lunatic
How would town be eating itself alive right now? You are implying inside information, I would like to know what your talking about.
That's not information. No one plays on this site because town Is autistic. You never stop complaining about how bad people are as town. It's literally why we went to mafia scum
So instead of letting people third imposter. I take an impossible position (as scum you are saying ) and try to double down and lead a mislynch that no one is on board with
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1) you would be insanely skeptical and you would not read this as town confirmation. You are willing to run with it because you are town and people would accept it. Even as a town luna , I think you would bring the point up that it's not town confirmation.
1A) you mean take down a role you as mafia would think or know that existed in the game. Just so you can ride the town confirmation.
The exact same thing max did last night , in a game that you modded. No it would never happen
The only thing you have added to your favor is that riddle
2) we will see , when your alive the last dp as a "confirmed" townie , I'm going to lel
3) right..... Because as scum I would leave you alive to try and mislynch you when literally no one on the game is remotely buying my case
4) my gut would have had me lynch max. Me going along with people and thinking I'm the crazy one , is why I didn't.
I'm not saying you are scum.
I am willing to lynch you for a variety of reasons.
1) to test the riddles. Which now we are down a dayphase so this is no where near as useful when we can afford it dp1
2) your entire overall playstyle. Not remotely second guessing that you could be town confirmed. Now suggesting that I'm pressured enough to try and tunnel lynch you as scum when I'm clearly in the minority when literally no one else agrees. Because that's a smart scum thing to do.
Let's pretend I'm backed into a corner. So instead of posting very little , making excuse for my friend visiting , and saying I play bdo at night and letting town kill itself .(literally read every game prior to this, mafia doesn't need to win. You let town win for you ) Instead I'm causing this fus as scum
Lmfao
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Also that read makes no sense. If I was "backed" into a corner I would literally just go along with the town and not cause a fus
Do you think I'm going to rofl tunnel you as scum when I can just ride the dp and let town eat itself alive
Lmao
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Insofar as the other reads. I have not had a chance to sit down and do an iso of the game. I was at work when I started posting and then we did live mafia all last night. If I get a chance today after bdo , I'm going to try to iso the entire game
As for now it's dealing with my tldrs because I am not trying that on my phone
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That's what bothers me even more about you and it's why I'm willing to bite down. If you flipped this with any other person, there is not a chance in hell you would willingly accept it.
And you will continue to be alive every dp
If you outed your roll. Why no nk on you , why no role block , why nothing to attempt to stop you when everyone read you as town.
They aren't leaving you alive to try and lead a mislynch on you.
Yes I will triple down on my stance. Not that it's worth pursuing , but everything about how you have played this game bothers me.
I didn't trust my gut last night, I'm 100 percent going to trust it now
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@Lunatic
It's okay. Your read accuracy is as good as your gambling luck
And no I'm not backing down and the fact you aren't willing to even acknowledge it after how last night played out is a joke
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I absolutely do not think we should town confirm luna and we should prob move past that for the same reasons in live mafia. There is no way to prove it and if he is scum , he's set this up so we'll it will be near impossible to build a case against him
We should not insta town confirm him and keep that thought in our mind
If anything use last night as precident
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@SirAnonymous
It's the same exact situation. Not saying it's the same outcome. But it's almost a parallel from this game
The reason I ended up trusting max was because of this game. I felt like I was the insane one. And said fuck it.
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What doesn't set right to me. Is luna was so sure he was one of those roles and so willingly accepted the town confirmation when he would not have did it with anyone else
This literally reads dejavu from last night's game and almost like luna knew this would happen or set it up so it would so he could kill speed to self confirm
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@SirAnonymous
This exact same situation happened. Literally
And luna was mod
Speed was a role that if lynched went to a mafia (I believe it basically something similar to the same role as here)
Max had a kill and odd night vig. Speed claimed 2x deathproof (he was 1x). So we lynched him and had max vig him to test his claim. Max killed his normal target and used his second kill on speed and speed flipped as that role.
We town confirmed max the entire game off that kill and I had the same gut feeling where I kept saying he was scum but it was so hard to justify
End of the game comes and he had rolled us because he was basically town confirmed off the big
Literally the same situation
And I still trust my gut with Luna. He doesn't sit right to me. Had I went with it last night, we could have had a chance.
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I have to catch up on this dp but for those that played life mafia last night. I want to point you back to the game we played.
Which lunatic modded
And the exact same thing happened. Literally the exact same thing and we town confirmed max the entire game lost.
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Leaving work and will be on bdo for the remainder of the night
@mod time check
I'll post either really late tonight or early tomorrow. My vote is staying in luna for the reasons above
I think it's shady af that he didn't even question the idea he's town confirmed when I view him as the type of player who would question someone else about it
It feels like he's fishing for 2 days of fuckery knowing pie is telling the truth.
On you guys now.
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@Lunatic
Get a lynch on him and see if it's in shambles. You won't be able to
I don't think there is a way in hell danielle just auto town confirms you for balancing purposes.
I also think there are ways we can evaluate his claim without having to waste 2 dayphases. I don't buy he's fake claiming for all the aforementioned reasons.
To fake claim as scum he has to be willing to die and have a role that would make it worth. Don't buy it as his first post without seeing how the game unfolds
To fake claim as town is just stupid which is still possible but either way don't want to lynch it.
So I'm going to keep assuming he's telling the truth
If you think your case is good , get town to lynch him and lead them off a cliff or on a 2 dayphases journey where we probably end up in mylo.
I think they are smart enough to ignore your push.
I don't think there is a way in hell danielle just auto town confirms you for balancing purposes.
I also think there are ways we can evaluate his claim without having to waste 2 dayphases. I don't buy he's fake claiming for all the aforementioned reasons.
To fake claim as scum he has to be willing to die and have a role that would make it worth. Don't buy it as his first post without seeing how the game unfolds
To fake claim as town is just stupid which is still possible but either way don't want to lynch it.
So I'm going to keep assuming he's telling the truth
If you think your case is good , get town to lynch him and lead them off a cliff or on a 2 dayphases journey where we probably end up in mylo.
I think they are smart enough to ignore your push.
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I also want to drop this convo until pie responds. We are letting people slid under the radar and not have to contribute
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@Lunatic
Def ignoring you being a pr and this for balance
Lawyer can negate the result. We just don't say when we are investigating him.
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How does the cop idea only work after we lynch him. What?? Lul
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@LikeMagic
Or scum just wrote random shit and put
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For fuckery
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@Lunatic
The idea of not testing you in that game vs this is entirely different. There are different ways to solve it without testing the claim with the amount of players in it
Why test it when other roles can likely solve it and save us multiple day phases.
Also inno child flips third dp after multiple day phases where it can be night killed or lynched. This is basically the mod saying
"Look a townie"
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Wana hear a conspiracy theory
Luna and pie are both scum
Luna town confirms himself via that submission of the text the mod put and leads the lynch on pie because he's a mafia hunter (it's why he keeps bringing up the role)
Town confirms luna via text and via him pushing the lynch due to a bus.
Also allows mafia a extra kill
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@ILikePie5
Input now , you trump loving cunt nugget
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