PGA2.0

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE EQUAL TO RUNNING AWAY LIKE TRADESECRET: "If you do not wish to engage in a reasonable discussion then I will ignore all future posts. You choose."

Listen up Preterist Bible fool, I don't have to choose, you have made the choice already by subjectively and wrongfully accusing me of not being reasonable in our discussion, therefore you will ignore my future posts regarding your ungodly pagan faith, therefore you are RUNNING AWAY!

SO BE IT RUNAWAY PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN PRETERIST!

I knew you would eventually use a lame excuse to runaway from further discussion, because who in the hell in their logical right mind could ever defend such a Satanic faith of Preterism to begin with? As shown, certainly not you!

Another pseudo-christian bites the dust when engaging the Brother D!

NEXT?

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE EQUAL TO RUNNING AWAY LIKE TRADESECRET: "If you do not wish to engage in a reasonable discussion then I will ignore all future posts. You choose."

Listen up Preterist Bible fool, I don't have to choose, you have made the choice already by subjectively and wrongfully accusing me of not being reasonable in our discussion, therefore you will ignore my future posts regarding your ungodly pagan faith, therefore you are RUNNING AWAY!

SO BE IT RUNAWAY PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN PRETERIST!

I knew you would eventually use a lame excuse to runaway from further discussion, because who in the hell in their logical right mind could ever defend such a Satanic faith of Preterism to begin with? As shown, certainly not you!

Another pseudo-christian bites the dust when engaging the Brother D!

NEXT?

Okay, I'll mention just one of many sickening things Jesus did to unbelievers, of which was, His ghoulish creations when he returns were a bunch of horse-like locusts with human heads, women’s hair, lion’s teeth, and scorpion’s tails! They’re gonna be stinging unbelievers straight for a whole 5 months, ouch! (Rev.9:7-10).

This is embarrassing for you AGAIN, whereas the “Revelation” of the Apostle John in the different chapters of the book of Revelation of Jesus’ Second Coming HAVE NOT HAPPENED YET! Understood?

Have the following Second Coming of Jesus events been seen as yet, or if it happened already, is Jesus’ brutal murdering spree upon the nonbelievers on record anywhere in the worlds history? NO IT IS NOT, therefore Jesus HAS NOT returned! 

Try and follow along where the Apostle John was godly revealed in what the Second Coming of Jesus will be like in the following passages: Rev.1:13-16, Rev.9:7-10, Rev.9:15-19, Rev.11:5-10. Now, if you don’t accept these biblical axioms of Jesus’ horrific brutal return, then are you prepared to call the Apostle John a LIAR as well?

Even Matthew agrees with the Apostle Paul where Jesus’ return will be a ghastly, horrifying, and a brutal take no prisoners murdering event! “This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous 50 and throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 13:49-50). Do you want to call Matthew a LIAR too?

PGA2.0, maybe its time for you to actually accept the fact that Religion in general is NOT your forte whatsoever. To compound this fact by swallowing the Satanic faith of being a Preterest, where your faith was “invented by Satan” in the year of 1790 as just “another” DIVISION of Christianity as embarrassingly shown in the link below:

YOUR OUTRIGHT LIE REGARDING THAT I HAVE CALLED YOU NAMES IN POST #65: "Again, you have done nothing to refute my arguments but instead fallaciously attacked me with namecalling, conjecture, and wild accusations while providing nary one proof to back them up."

Do you deny that to understand someone you need to understand the context, the specific word meaning, and intent of what the author or communicator means?

Sure you need to try to understand that, however, my entire point is that the aforementioned process is still subjective.  Look at all the different opinions you have on this thread alone. And everyone would claim to have a proper understanding.

You were not there, or in the head of the other.  So all you can do is speculate. 

What you fail to realize is post-70 A.D. of the book of Revelation renders all Preterist thought absolutely FALSE. THINK, the earliest Christian historian who recorded the church’s knowledge of the Domitianic dating of Revelation was Hegessippus in 150 A.D. and this continued to be the unanimous view until about 4 centuries later with the Syriac Peshitta NT manuscript in which someone wrote that John was exiled under Nero. HELLO? Therefore, It is sometimes claimed that the Neronic dating is in the original, but this is impossible since the original lacked the book of Revelation. The history shows there is no source or reasoning given for this change in that 6th century manuscript. This is most problematic at best, and definitely lacks the authoritativeness that would be required to credibly make such a huge revision to what was commonly accepted and passed down from the end of the first century/beginning of the 2nd. FACT!

The same can be said for the Muratorian Fragment, which is the 7th century copy of the 2nd century original, with no way to prove the Neronic dating was in the original. There is no record of any of the early church fathers holding to the Neronic date of Revelation, where this is a fascinating glimpse into the early church fathers and what they believed on a variety of topics is in ‘A Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs’, over 700 pages that were compiled by David Bercot!  In addition to Hegessippus, who, notably, wrote this prior to Irenaeus, Tertullian, Hippolytus, Eusebius, Jerome, Sulpicius Severus, and a number of other church fathers both before and not long after the council at Nicaea in 325AD, all confirm that John was exiled to Patmos by Domitian where he received Revelation, get it?!!!  The lack of any dissenting view naming Nero in place of Domitian until the 6th century should give early-date advocates pause. 2+2=4! Therefore, most of the events of Revelation are still in our future where some view the messages to the churches as having already been strictly for them and completely fulfilled, while some view each church as symbolic for a different time period, and of course there could be room for double-fulfillment of most of those first 3 chapters.

Remember, there was a celebration on Patmos in 1995 commemorating 1900 years, approximately, as in 95 or 96 A.D., since the Revelation Jesus gave to John. Furthermore, what other events in the 1st century A.D. are ever claimed as taking place 2 or 3 decades earlier, or later? UNDERSTAND? With all of the accurate records kept during the Roman Empire era and surviving today, there is little room for such a vast difference being possible.  Understand this simple premise, its commonly believed that Jesus died around 30 or 33 A.D., Paul and Peter were martyred in the 60’s, Nero lived from 37-68 A.D., etc. NO ONE SAYS JESUS DIED IN 3AD OR 60AD, or that Peter and Paul were martyred in the 30’s A.D. or 90’s A.D., or that Nero actually reigned around the time of Jesus’ ministry as recorded in the Gospels!  The majority of scholarship places John’s writing of Revelation in the mid-90’s, but somehow your insidious Preterist faith thinks it’s ok to go against the overwhelming consensus of the past 2000 years? LAUGHABLE!!!  

Remember, the great fire of Rome took place for nearly a week during 64 A.D., but no one places it in 54 A.D. let alone 34 A.D. A powerful earthquake in 60 A.D. devastated Laodicea, and yet no one ever says that earthquake took place in 30 A.D. 30 years prior. With the vast majority of evidence to the contrary. Your Satanic Preterist faith literally rests on this single pillar of the dating of the book of Revelation. And, really, that is no pillar at all in light of the historicity of the late date!!!!  

Now, go hide yourself from the above FACTS that make your Preterist faith as comical as the Pentacostals, Mormons, Jehovah Witneesess, etc., because in the true Matthean  4:10 way, BE GONE SATAN! 

Listen up, don’t you remember me stating that you follow the fraudulent Preterist Faith that is not only Satanic, but goes directly against Jesus’ inspired true words?!  Subsequent to ungodly Preterists using a Sharpie pen and scissors to mark out, and cut out approximately 75 percent of the JUDEO-Christian Bible, what is left is a Satanic “pocket size” version at Jesus’ expense! BLASPHEME!

As if the above Preterist fraud isn’t disturbing enough to Jesus, and as shown, you come forth with some of the most laugable Devil Speak “mumbo-jumbo-gumbo-dumbo, strum” rhetoric that this forum will probably ever see!  Look at your phrases and words, that are copy and pasted from your Satanic faith’s website, where obviously you don’t have the sense to feel embarrassed.

Whether you are a half assed Preterist, or a whole assed Preterist, the truth is that your pagan faith was “hatched by Satan” in the year of 1790, get it?! Therefore, your faith is yet another DIVISION of Christianity where every Bible reader prior to this date read the bible wrong in your Satanic view, and are therefore 

Furthermore, since your comical and ungodly faith preclude that if all prophecies have happened before and up to 70AD, then you are stating that IT IS A LIE in calling the hope for Jesus to return in bodily form in the future, at the end of time and history, and raise our bodies towards heaven, and bring judgment to all unbelievers, is now a ruse! You slap Jesus in the face because the 4 aforementioned biblical entities unifiy the history of Chrisitianity and Jesus’ Second Coming, but to your Satanic thinking, even though these four entities unify Christianity, and the future Second Coming, to you these precepts is fraudulent and WRONG!  HELLO?

The bottom line is YOU live in the past, where TRUE Christians live in the godly future, understood?

there is only one correct understanding.

Yet then you state

the Scriptural verse and the surrounding passage (context) need to be considered. The audience of address, the timeframe, the culture of the times all plays a role.

So how is everyone supposed to get the correct? understand with all the subjectivity.

PGA2.0,

ONCE AGAIN, ANOTHER BIBLE DUMBFOUNDED QUOTE BY YOU: "The Law of Moses has been abolished (Matthew 5:17-18) since it can no longer be carried out in the prescribed manner. It was always pointing to the better covenant, a schoolmaster or tutor to lead us to Christ."

HELLO? Your misnomer of whether the OT laws, ALL 613 OF THEM, can be carried out or not is moot!  This is because of the simple biblical axiom that they are still too be followed today in the 21st century, understood Bible fool?

Tell the membership, what part of Jesus' Sermon on the Mount don't you understand relative to following the 613 laws of Moses TODAY?  

JESUS STATED: "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled" (Matthew 5:18).  With these words, Jesus likened the continuance of the Mosaic 613 Laws to the permanence of heaven and earth, UNDERSTAND?!  Therefore, has Heaven and earth passed away or disappeared yet? NO IT HAS NOT! Therefore, as Jesus stated with specificity, the true Christian is to follow every jot and tittle of the 613 commanded laws of the Old Testament until the earth and heaven do pass away!  2+2=4, oil and water don't mix, and your outlandish Bible ignorance is again laughable!

In summary,  despite your quoted claim to the contrary Christians do cherry-pick.  Not all perhaps, but certainly some do.  I have had the same conversation experience with Muslims and Jewish.   despite your claim, there is only "the" hermeneutic, there are in fact 100s of thousands if not more methods to interpret.  This is evidenced by all the denominations of Christianity alone. 

I mocked you because I am a sinner. Or it might be because I think the ridiculous deserves to be ridiculed. Or it might be because I don't think turning the other cheek means getting walked all over. I personally do get frustrated with comments that are repeated ad nauseum over and over again - despite ample and good answers to them.

Having said that - I also welcome the opportunity to discuss things with people who are genuine. And if that is you and i have misread and taken offence at your opening words - then I apologise.  

As for fulfilling the law, I don't think it ceased. Obviously, you did not comprehend what I wrote. Let me try and explain it to you. 

The OT law is still ongoing in the NT. The difference is the letter not the spirit.  Jesus did not stop the law. Yet he fulfilled it. The OT law of sacrifice was at its heart about what? 

It was about atoning for the sins of people in a temporary way because the blood of goats and cows are not eternal. Jesus however as the Eternal Son of God has blood that atones eternally - for the sins of his people. Hence, the OT Mosaic system is known as a shadow of things to come - namely Jesus who is the real deal.  therefore, the atoning sacrifices has not ended or been ceased in spirit - but in Christ is eternal for all his people. 

Hence, not ceased, but fulfilled in Christ. I notice you OMITTED to explain what fulfilled was according to your own thinking. Perhaps it is you who is running away from the obvious. Yes, you said what you think it was not. but OMITTED to say what you think it was.

PGA2.0,

YOUR REVEALING AND TRUTHFUL QUOTE TO MY POST #20:   "Hilarious!!!"

Yes, I am glad that you admit that when you are in discussion with your Satanic Bible rewrites, it is HILARIOUS!  Tell you what, what is even more HILARIOUS is your Devil Speak you spew forth relative to your ungodly comical faith of "Preterism!"  Just watching you remove one foot to insert the other regarding your Satanic faith within these threads is better than watching Saturday Night Live!  HILARIOUS!

There you go again.

 it ought to be clear that his non-reading is not that he has no ability to read but that he is reading according to his own hermeneutic and not as Christians tend to read. 

I stated there are 10's of thousands of denominations, ad the driving factor is different interpretations.  So who are you to say your analysis applies to all Christians.

Your narcissism and self-righteousness are nearly biblical in volume.

Side question: As a Christian why would you mock someone for asking a question?

I will back everything up.

Thats fine.

CaptainSceptic,

See, what did I tell you?  In all of  PGA2.0's subsequent posts to you relative to your debate challenge, he is running away from it!  I have Bible Slapped PGA2.0  silly in many threads within this forum, so expect to see some of the most comical and outlandish responses from him in a discussion.  

PGA2.0 RUNNING AWAY QUOTE #1: "How badly do you want to debate this?"

Subjectively, you never let a pseudo-christian, especially a PRETERIST, control YOUR debate, it is your debate and you construct it the way that you want, not PGA2.0's way.  This is an old ruse that the pseudo-christian uses to "try" and get the upper hand when the parameters by the challenger have already been set that is uncomfortable to them at the onset. If PGA2.0 ever gets off the pot and commits, we will see some of the most outrageous Bible hermeneutics and rewrites this forum will ever see, brought to you by the minion of Satan, PGA2.0! 

Notwithstanding the fact that scripture is notoriously ambiguous anyway.

How do you share a burden of proof when you first stated: 

" I truly do not believe you can demonstrate an adequate or reasonable explanation for morality other than a necessary Being - God - since without an absolute, objective, omniscient, unchanging, eternal source and reference point all you have is subjectivism and relativism. "

Then you stated:

"God as a necessary Being is the most reasonable explanation for morality."

What BOP do I have other than addressing your statements?   Tell me what BOP I should have.  Better yet, why don't you set the entire thing up and invite me.  

Invited you to a  debate about it so you can set me straight.

Invited you to a  debate about it so you can set me straight.

https://www.debateart.com/debates/1980/god-is-essential-and-necessary-to-demonstrate-an-adequate-or-reasonable-explanation-for-morality

My retort:   Well there are lots of examples of conduct that is immoral like

Hence, your accusation that Christians cherry pick is incorrect

I never said Christian once.   In addition, you state that no Christian has cherry-picked verses in my presence is incorrect, and something you can't know, as you have not been in my presence during those times.   You could have said I may be misinterpreting, or ask for a specific example. However, you do not.  You immediately jump to the conclusion that I am talking about Christians, and no matter what I experience I am wrong because.....

Did god's plan include Adam eating it?

Sure. He knew Adam would eat it but He never forced Adam to eat it. Adam chose to eat it. 

So god planned for adam to eat it, then got mad at him for eating it, and as adam cannot go against god's plan, how did he have a choice and not just the illusion of choice? 

God did not force him to eat from it. 

Did god's plan include Adam eating it?

Adam did not act outside of God's plan. God knew what Adam would do. That is why from before the foundation of the world God had that plan. God gave Adam free will to choose. 

So Adam's only choice, according to this quote, is to act according to god's plan. Maybe I'm missing it: what was Adam's other option?

The action Adam chose showcases God's plan 

WHY IS GOD MAD AT ADAM FOR EXECUTING HIS PLAN???

How can a righteous and good Judge like evil? 

THat's got nothing to do with the question I asked. Why is god mad at Adam for executing the plan god laid out in the first place? Did Adam act outside of god's original plan? If so, then god wasn't entirely omniscient. 

Please explain how the entity who, according to you,laid out an entire plan for every molecule, allows something without condoning it.

Because He allows it for a purpose and a season so that good would come from that one evil choice and good would be seen to triumph over evil.  

Then it's condoning the evil (going according to his plan) rather than merely allowing it (shrugging your shoulders and saying 'didn't see that coming, but I'll let it continue) for some perverse playacting purpose. If he wanted to make good triumph over evil, there's plenty of other ways for an all powerful whatever to accomplish that, right? Hollywood does it all the time. 

God already knows your choice, yet He allows you to make it. He compels you via His word,

If you are compelled into doing something, YOU DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE. You're compelled.

You are under the misconception that just because the whole of history - past, present, and future - is presently before God that we are unable to choose

Can I choose to do something that's not in god's plan? Yes or no. 

God already knows your choice, yet He allows you to make it

So he allows me to fool myself into thinking I've made it.

The action Adam chose showcases God's plan 

WHY IS GOD MAD AT ADAM FOR EXECUTING HIS PLAN???

You keep ignoring that god knew that all of that, exactly, would happen, according to a blueprint you think he laid out.

There isn't any choice as a result. You're not approaching this in an honest way at all, you want to have your cake (omniscient god who knows all things and planned all things) and eat it too (wherein people are somehow held accountable with eternal torture for doing exactly what god laid out for them to do). God knowing doesn't prevent anyone from doing anything, it's the opposite, and that you don't see it is a testament to how thoroughly your indoctrination has blinded you, dude. I get it, you're a true believer, it's really unlikely we're ever going to have any real discussion, you just end up quoting bible verses and preaching meaningless garbage at me.

I asked it as clear as I can:

CAN GOD BE SURPRISED?

If the answer is no, then you don't have free will, you have the illusion of free will, and you're being held accountable for stuff he traps you into doing over and over again. 

The Christian religion is reasonable and logical and I argue necessary in making sense of existence. 

And yet if you were born in Afghanistan the chances are you wouldn't believe a word of that.

And I feel bad for people like you too who think they have the answers yet on questioning you find that you can't make sense of life other than manufacturing meaning in what would be a meaningless universe from an atheistic perspective.

Religion doesn't make sense of life, it proposes a fantasy and pathetically tries to make sense of that based on fear, fear of the existence they find themselves in.

You don't pass laws to murder others.

The death penalty is federally legal in the US, where I live. This is a law that's been passed specifically to murder people, legally, and it has a very large contingent of self professing Christians supporting it. Apparently, we do make laws to murder others. 

Just because I know something you do is wrong does not stop you from doing it if you want to. Thus, you are still accountable for your wrong choice.

If you set up, specifically, a scenario in which you know I can only make one choice, and I make that choice, how am I responsible for NOT choosing it?

It's akin to a maze: I can't choose which way I get out of the maze, there's only one path to the exit. I don't choose the path, I simply follow it until I'm dead (exit). This is where you're missing my point. If Adam could NOT go against god's plan, and as you pointed out, god's supposed omniscience would dictate that this is the case (otherwise he'd be surprised), then he didn't really have a choice and god should have just created him in hell in the first place, just as he might as well eliminate earth altogether and put you in heaven or hell from the start, since he knows what you're going to choose, he knows you're going to die in either grace or sin. There is no free will in your scenario, because that would mean god isn't omniscient, or at least, had no plan, he's just watching.

 In the long term, nothing matters and what Hitler did is not answered for by justice.

If Hitler repented rather than killed himself, then died by a tank shell, would he be in heaven right now? The answer is yes. There are no sins, no amount of sins can pile up, that your faith says cannot be instantly forgiven. That's justice and perfect morality at work for you. To me, he's dead and I'm glad about it.

For instance, Nation A believes abortion is wrong, except when not having one will result in the death of both the woman and unborn. Nation B believes abortion is right and permits abortion for any reason. Clearly both these positions cannot both be true since they are the antithesis of the other.

Nations don't believe anything. The people in them do, strictly, speaking. Also, these positions are not the opposite of each other as abortion is legal in both places, under different conditions. And finally, you're confusing moral with legal. Ideally, people decide what's moral and then make laws accordingly. Not Jesus.

without a necessary being who has revealed the right,

This perfect moral system is the one where I do a crime, the court knows it was me, and sentences YOU to death for it. Not by mistake, they knew the whole time.

God did not make them do exactly what they did. They chose to do what they did. Their sinful preference was to do exactly the opposite of what God said to do. You are inventing, twisting, and convoluting the context.  

If god knew what they'd do when he designed them, and made them anyway, and he cannot be surprised by their actions, that means they cannot take any action god hasn't foreseen, right? How exactly is that free will then?

God may allow things that are wrong for a season or time (permits it for a time). He allows it for His purposes.

Then how exactly would I be the one accountable for his will, if I'm only doing what he wanted me to do? THIS IS NOT FREE WILL.

Isaac Newton was a "Bible man".

I bet you won't step off a skyscraper anyway though.

It isn't what you actually say PGA2.0, it's whether you're a "bible man". This is what passes for intelligent these days

 How is it inconsistent that He warns you of the consequences and you understand them yet you choose to ignore them?

If god makes someone like Adam or you knowing you'd do evil, you do not have free will at all.

It's as simple as that. If you choose to repent or not doesn't surprise god. He can't be mad if he can't be surprised, and he can't be surprised because he knew what you'd do the second he made you, and he knows if you'll be sorry about it or not.

Grace is not getting what you deserve but what you do not deserve.

In this way, grace is the opposite of justice according to you. 

Did he receive the same that he gave in terms of harm and hurt and evil? 

Not remotely, but he's dead. That's the end of that story. Well, unless he said really sorry, Jesus, and now he's on Jesus's yacht full of 14 year old girls in heaven, right?

 if things just happen why do you believe tomorrow will be like today and why should things hold together as they have in the past? Can you answer that instead of talking around it? 

That's what they've always done.

I don't spend literally any time, not one second, wondering if tomorrow will be like today. It won't, it's a totally different day. I don't get this question. Let me guess, is the answer "Jesus, ha, I made sense of a big question"?

Change your "fittest" to "bare minimum" and you will start to understand evolution a little more.

Hitler, again, good grief you guys love that one.

Strange that someone we all agree was entirely evil, who perpetrated such heinous crimes against God's chosen people, that god made him do that... 

And also that god didn't step in and help on his own, but needed five years worth of war and millions of lives lost to get rid of him.

Why not just miracle his ass out of there?

Or, better idea, don't make him to do that in the first place.

Like look at the plans for your Hitler and say "Whoops, wait a minute, if I make this guy exactly this way, he's going to kill six million jews, plus a ton of other non jews, like CHristians! Maybe I should take another look at this design, yeesh, that was a close one!"

When you start with God you find answers that make sense.

I think it more likely that you invent answers that pacify you.

...could also be...

No. IS the very thing he claims to loathe in those qualities listed.

It means why do we exist? What is the reason you are here? Why is there something rather than nothing? 

In order: don't know, don't know, and don't know. Without knowing these answers, it's amazing I find my way to work every day! Okay, so what are your answers? 

I'm asking the question again, because you repeatedly say that you make sense of the questions above. Please demonstrate making sense of them. 

My starting point - God - makes sense of morality. God would have an objective mindset, knowing all things. Relative human beings do not. 

This is not 'making sense' of morality. This is assigning credit for morality to god. That doesn't make sense of it at all.

Morality is relative and subjective, this is clearly how the world works.

It's not the same today as it was however many hundreds of years ago this book was published. You saying "You don't rape anyone because unbeknonst to you, God wrote on your heart! You know it's wrong!" doesn't explain the massive number of self professed Christians who DO rape people. Did god forget to scribble it down for them too? This is going to get more difficult, I'm afraid:

No, he was not. Show me how that was God's purpose. He went against God's purpose. He chose to do things his way. He placed himself above God's good counsel

Well...then was God completely surprised by these two and their behavior?

How could an all-knowing being be surprised? That does not make sense. 

Didn't he know they'd do this when he made them?

Again, transcending time means He sees the past present and future before Him. They have a will in which they choose evil. Evil is living and acting outside God's counsel and will. 

I'm confused. In these back to back posts, you're responding to my pointing out that god made Epstien and Weinstein to do exactly what they did, act like monsters.

You took offense to this, saying they were going against god's purpose, not with it. But in the bolded, you make clear, god cannot be surprised and sees the past, present and future. This means they don't really have free will, because that would make god surprised by their behavior.

make sense of existence and life's most important questions. 

And what are life's most important questions?

They are, Stephen,

1) What are we?

Why is that an important question?

(2) Who am I?

I don't see that as an important question.

3) Why am I here?

Why is that important?

4) What difference does it make?

That is your best question so far and the answer from my stand point is that it makes no difference whatsoever.

5) How can I be sure or what is necessary for surety?

That makes no sense to me at all. Sure of what?

6) What happens to me when I physically die.

That question is not important to me and neither should it be to you. 

How you or I answer these is how you or I will live your or my life IF you or I am being consistent to what we state and not lying to yourself or myself.

Life changes all the time as do opinions and beliefs.

Now you tell me. Why did your god create anything, at all,  in the first place?

you carry a constant theme of attacking the Christian worldview

And you being very deceptive again and making it sound like I have it in for Christians just for the heck of it.

You know damned well that I have specifically attacked the systematic bigotry, vilification and incitement of hatred by Christians. I have completely backed up and justified my assertion. You, nor anyone else on this forum has denied such and my assertion stands.

Christians believe God's Word as true. Unbelievers do not.

That statement is hollow, meaningless and displays a total arrogance that everybody should obey the "words" of your imaginary friend.

The Bible is that kind of roadmap.

I believe what the Bible teaches

The Bible teaches bigotry, hatred, fear, jealousy violence extreme sexism, gratuitous killing.

And if you believe what the Bible teaches then you are a bigoted, sexist hate-filled, anti-social who has no place in decent civilized modern society