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@AustinL0926
You mentioned it somewhere and also told badger you used chat GPT to create your own little guide or something. It is not a scum slip at all.
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@whiteflame
I misinterpreted the soft claims but thought they were two anti heros. If I was town with an antihero character sitting there Ii would have speculated about theme as well.
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They actually should have lynched Lancelot though. He really was lurking and 90% of thee time when that happens.
Being inactive is not a scum tell but lurking is almost 100% of the time and is even more of a scum tell than a shitty character claim. By not noticing they essentially incentivized scum to lurk in all future games
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@AustinL0926
The first one was not a scum slip. I saw two soft claims and knew my own role. I had a theme I was thinking of from that alone and it is independent of affiliation. The second one was not a slip because your last game you mentioned reading several guides.
Paraphrasing in the endgame I believe you said
"I lied about it being my first game so I wouldn't be scum read . I read a bunch of guides to prepare."
That is a paraphrase but I am sure the post would be easy to find. This is one of those things where it only looks scummy because of confirmation bias and you already knowing I was scum.
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@dustryder
It's less about lying about the true premise and more that the arguments for and against abortion/vaccine mandates via bodily autonomy are simply more nuanced than the simplistic syllogisms you presented
I am on the YouTube comments a lot. That's about as nuanced as I have seen them get. Either bodily autonomy is more important than human life or human life is more important. If you tell me that it is a balancing act then you need to tell me where to draw the line precisely.
For example, have you considered the moral considerations given to the unborn Vs those currently living in society and compared the degree in which they might be harmed?
Yes. The unborn would have a life expectancy of about 80 years vs the remaining life expectancy of 5 years for the people who died of COVID.
267k people died of COVID in the United States in 2022. 1.5 million people died from abortions. It's not just number of lives killed either we have to look at remaining life expectancy. 5 for the people who died of COVID but let's say 10 to be safe. That is 2.7 million lost years. With abortions life expectancy is 80 years it is 120 million years lost to abortion. In 2022.
The one argument you can make is that the lives of children are less valuable than senior citizens in hospice, but I don't think most people would admit to believing that.
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@whiteflame
And hey, I actually called that scum would have “used” the silencer role on themselves to make them look townie. Didn’t know I nailed that.I have thought about doing it 100 times but never do. I feel like it was obvious bullshit to claim scum would silence somebody so widely scum read
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@whiteflame
- Wylted’s claim. Seemed ridiculous from the outset,
That's my interpretation of what that2s role was. So I feel like it is something that 2 would make a role
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@ILikePie5
Wylted can’t fake claim to save his life. This was partially the reason I wanted him to full claim DP1 and would’ve lynched him
This is true which is why I usually claim my real character
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@Vader
you need to figure out how to fake a claim. The one thing that could have EASILY proven your point. I have never seen “Key Team Epic”. Tbh, I’m surprised whiteflame did not catch on to that, but regardless, I left so many options out there, Attack on Titan, Jujutsu Kaisen, and even Naruto! A lot of mainstream anime I didn’t choose were out there and just were not capitalized on. Mafia dug themselves into a whole
I had no ideal it wasn't mainstream. I just googled mid 90s anime.
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I thought there was another scum team with the lurking by Lancelot and b.k.s mimicking tbh. I am about to read the op so it is possible they are TP.
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I also think Egyptians are only classified as black by groups that are very uncomfortable with the fact there are zero successful advanced African civilizations. It's clear that the Egyptians had a lighter skin tone similar to what Arabs have
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Can you imagine if they remake The Prince of Egypt redone so they can deny that blacks used to enslave the Hebrew people?
I believe this in fact happened but it's debatable as to whether Hebrews were ever enslaved by Egyptians. Egyptologists are split on it
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@zedvictor4
If you say you care about bodily auto omy in one argument and under other scenarios with less extreme consequences than murdering babies, you say you do not agree with bodily autonomy than it's extremely obvious you aren't presenting your real arguments and being intellectually honest.
So here is both their arguments as it pertains to bodily autonomy so you can see the hypocrisy.
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P1- bodily auto omy is more important than preservation of human life.
P2- pro life mandates save lives but at the expense of bodily autonomy
C1- abortions should be legal
Now here is their argument as it pertains to bodily autonomy and vaccine mandates
P1- bodily auto omy is less important than preservation of human life.
P2- vaccine mandates save lives but at the expense of bodily autonomy
C1- vaccine mandates should be implemented
Do you not see it as hypocritical to consistently push both of these arguments?
The reason both arguments survive in the same exact people is because they are in fact lying about their true premises, unless you have a better reason why forwarding both arguments would not cause cognitive dissonance.
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Liberals pretty much showed that abortion rights are not about bodily autonomy when they wanted vaccine mandates. I don't understand fully the hypocrisy op is stating but the bodily autonomy arguments have been exposed as a bullshit argument meant to appeal to libertarian minded people. It's clearly about eugenics and none will say it out loud because eugenics is not popular.
They know it is typically blacks and low IQ whites getting abortions.
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@badger
You get full creative control of the white washing of films, I will handle distribution
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@badger
You are good with tech and I have had a business ideals for a while. With deep fakes being a thing what do you feel about partnering up with me to turn black characters white with deep fakes so I can sell DVDs to racist boomers and nerds? I think there is a huge market for things like making Annie or the little mermaid white. Hell I might even be able to make the black panther white and sell the deep fake movie to boomers.
What percent of the cut do you want?
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As far as burden of proof is concerned. I think it falls equally on both sides here. Though overcoming the bias to see both sides as equal will be tough, particularly when there is a natural bias to assume popular laws are a result of altruistic intentions.
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@fivesix
You might as well hash some stuff out here. My impression is you wanted good arguments against your position and for your position to be understood and oromagi seems to be trying to understand your argument and provide rebuttals and counter arguments.
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@whiteflame
That would've been quite the feat since Baymax isn't an anime character, but fun thought I guess.
That's sad because it is my favorite anime movie
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I am not going to lie I thought that2 soft claimed big hero 6 and was Baymax and was a doctor he said ilikepie6 in his first post so I instantly thought. "I got your ass Baymax"
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Worst part is I had a ninja and I just thought nobody would be stupid enough to watch that2. I am done talking now.
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I don't know why I am fighting. Scum 3 games in a row. Are you guys colluding to fuck with me by making me Perma scum. like it might even be 4 games in a row at that point and that2 who I stole the role of was literally a rainbow body guard or some weird shit like that so go fuck yourselves.
VTL Prez
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@whiteflame
Please confirm you sensed one of my rainbow guards. I believe you should have gotten the name of it.
Clear Heart
Heaven's Wheel
Atarxia
Any of that sound familiar?
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@whiteflame
The only caveat I can give now is that I will say that I was visited by someone. I will not explain how I know this. Based on SirAnon's result, we'd have to conclude that it wasn't Wylted. So, at least for now, I would say that Wylted is pretty clearly the one who should be lynched this DP.
I will prove you were visited by me. One sec
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@SirAnonymous
I am the watcher. I watched That2. That2 was visited by PREZ-Hilton. Unless mafia has a ninja I couldn't see, which is totally possible, PREZ-HILTON is scum
Why would you watch that2? That's a random target
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@ILikePie5
Not to mention I cannot find anything about her being protective of her friends in any wiki
Not my fault, watch the show
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@ILikePie5
Fine I guess I don't actually know what the fuck my role does. I am rainbow bodyguard and using it on people affects people differently. Supa would not give me a straight answer on what it does. It says in my PM that it is a secret and affects everyone differently. I used rainbow bodyguard on whiteflame last night.
My justification is her having a lot of friends and being protective of them or some shit
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@Vader
Austin will get a pass for the spamming of votes. He has been warned.
So we aren't allowed to spam votes? Or just those silenced. Because it sounds like you are mod confirming he is silenced here
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@Vader
There was additional text. He was refusing to bold certain parts to spell out a word. I was asking if that is legal for a silenced player to do? So if I was a cop and found somebody guilty would refusing to bold letters to spell that be a mod killable offense
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@ILikePie5
You’re again putting words in my mouth. Why would you (if you were town) ever ask that question in the first place when you know a potential Townie could die?
That's like asking why a Vig would ever use a vig shot since 100% certainty is impossible.
No no no. You asked that from everyone before you Unvoted Austin not after. You haven’t pursued anyone besides me since then.
Wrong
Only you’re scumreading me and not even fully like the other three, yet you are still pursuing me
I don't think my vote is on any ody right now. Where are you getting this? I placed one vote this whole do and it was on Austin.
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By the way it isn't a scum tell to have bad logic necessarily. It usually is but changing your logic when you are disproven to meet the same agenda absolutely is
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@ILikePie5
You didn’t prove me wrong. I responded to your post. Are you going to full claim or are you going to make me lobby for votes on you?
You literally changed your original logic of me trying to get everything to stick when my scum pool has been pretty consistent all game.
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@ILikePie5
You didn’t prove me wrong. I responded to your post. Are you going to full claim or are you going to make me lobby for votes on you?
Yeah I am going to full full claims with 2 votes on me from my scum pile. Get some people on my town/null pile and I will consider it. The fact you are ignoring obviously scummy people, particularly jumping off of Austin's lynch and trying to defelect me from getting Barney to claim by jumping on that wagon, doesn't look good for you
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@ILikePie5
If he’s scum that benefits us but if he’s town, it doesn’t benefit us.
You had a scum read on him so why did you automatically assume he will flip town once I messaged supa to mod kill him?
Barney replaced Lancelot. I haven’t seen you go after him this DP? You’ve only been on Austin today and after unvoting him you’re on me.
I literally urged you idiots to get a claim from Barney before lynching austin
If Austin is scummy to you, why did you unvote him?
Because every single one of you should be helping me get a claim from Barney first
There aren’t 4 scum lol.
I never said there was. You have stated 3 scum and then 2 scum I have stuck with thinking it was 3.
Clearly one of my scum reads is wrong. I have Barney, you, B.K and Austin.
You only got added today so good job I guess talking yourself into being scum read when you could have coasted
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@ILikePie5
You’re putting words in my mouth. I still behaviorally read you as scum.
I think I already linked you to the post proving you wrong though.
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I think I actually claimed my real character that game also. I can't remember
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@whiteflame
I’ll need to check back through Wylted’s prior posts to see if I’m seeing a similar trend. As of now, if Austin really is silenced, it doesn’t really change what I think should happen.
Check my scum games. Other than the Hitler claim I almost always just claim my real character because town almost never correctly guessed the theme .
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@ILikePie5
Either way, I think your character is scummy
I have only watched death note, one punch man and that movie based on hero academy I wouldn't know but interesting how I am no longer behaviorally scummy but scummy due to being an anime character you don't like or something
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@ILikePie5
Town Silencer also makes no sense. Definitely not in a Supa game.
Well either the scummiest player got silenced in the game either indicating a scum team with very terrible players or it is a town player or he is lying.
Bottom line is, if he is telling the truth about being silenced, Vader will mod kill him for cheating and we can all see the flip.
You are looking worse and worse tbh. I was trying to overlook the miller claim but this logic is retarded and the fact you are manufacturing scum tells when we have a few people displaying actual scum tells us that you are either terrible at this game or scum so tell me what I should think between those two things?
Have you suddenly started thinking that lurking is a town tell? That B.K. buddying everyone is suddenly a town tell? That Austin's shady behavior is a town tell and that the story of the scummiest player being silenced is not super fishy to you?
This is odd. It almost makes me feel like we have 4 scum. Austin, B.k. and Ragnar appear scummy but randomly all of those people are town reads for you or at least austin becomes your town read when it actually looks like he is at L1 and about to be lynched
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@ILikePie5
So you think Austin is some sort of genius that he knew you would figure this out because FT once did it lol. Either way. A Town Silencer also makes no sense. Definitely not in a Supa game.
Are you just playing dumb here? This is literally what every silenced player does ever. Badger also noticed likely because he has played mafia before. This cannot be your first game with a silenced player
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@ILikePie5
No he unvoted and voted. This is what silenced players usually do. I also speculated that he was testing if his vote was stolen. I once silenced FT when I was town and he did the exact same move and he then while silenced led a lynch on me by voting and unvoting me repeatedly. I was of course town but I didn't like him talking
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@Best.Korea
Why do you flop around with majority opinion so much
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@ILikePie5
this response. Okay, let’s see. First you’re adamant about not lynching BK, then at the end you’re like ya let’s do it. Right in this, you go for Austin as well.
Never said that. I said I would consider it given how scummy he was looking.
Let’s go to DP2. You move immediately from Austin to me after Badger says and Austin confirms he’s silenced. Not to BK but to me.
Nope, I don't think I voted you at all this do
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@ILikePie5
I am not going to hunt down any of my own posts again you guys just need to have better memories or reread stuff yourself
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@ILikePie5
You’re just scummy
Your single reason for saying that I already responded to and disproved which is why you refused to offer a rebuttal for what I said
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@ILikePie5
I feel like you are going to be like this all game because I like policy lynching millers
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@ILikePie5
Why would you as town ask this question?
He is in my scum pool but I have a feeling that supa is about to expose him as lying here or modkill him
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@Vader
If somebody is silenced is spelling it out the way Austin did worthy of a mod kill?
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