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@ravensjt
It seems unlikely that a population of 200 million can enforce their will and dominance on a population of 20 million?The 200 million should (by numbers alone) face worse hardship than the 20 million because there are more of them?
No to both, the 200,000,000 by numbers alone is more lilely to have a larger body of people facing all manner of experiences, including an assortment of hardship, than the smaller population in the same setting unless selected for condition. The inverse of what you postulsted is more lilely, meaning that it's more likely that members of the smaller population lack experiences of the larger than the other way around. A population does not "face hardship".
What you claim discounts the history of Race in America....
I'm a little hesitant to delve into the history of Race in America before obviating the futility of racism as a reliable basis of reality, but I've not discounted the historical effect of racism. The modern context of the American landscape spanning several generations is one of natives, immigrants and people decended from various migrants over vast historical, geographical, and socioeconomic circumstances that this thread has obviously not even begun to scratch the surface. The OP is probably still curious about the rammifications and necessity of political action from the 1860's through the 1960's on the dark skinned Americans of African decent today.
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@ravensjt
The underlined is all I'll respond to, the rest is an analogy....Living without an obstacle is an advantage.......When the end goal is the same ( prosperity, peace, success etc) and one side has a "head start" or less obstacles in their path.... they are in the position of Power.
Rather, a headstart towards a common goal represents a position which does not require as much power, relative to the "other side" (of the hill). The position of power, sticking with the hill analogy, would be on top, not by the tunnel.
An advantage implies the context of competition, which I have not addressed directly, however the knowledge of overcoming obstacles also has potential to be used to ones advantage to efficiently work over time, given the opportunity in circumstance.
Hmm, will try to clear things up then.I suspect you know this and that's why you used an analogy/red herring fallacy
I did use an analogy, which was meant to illustrate the application of Truth written to refine a previous falacious statement on power for clarity. The fallacy which the analogy is meant to address for reference within the thread is the associative leap regarding the relationship between power and obstacles, if that makes sense. The underlined portion still stands, and the analogy is not a red herring. I had to look up that term, believe it means a misleading way of distracting from the original topic.
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There are cultural colloquialisms which vary across the United states that get entire species "wrong" in the context of standardized organization for universal communication. That doesn't mean they don't read books
Maybe their great great grandparents didn't. It means the books you read were not written by people who value every historical use in terminology.
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There are cultural colloquialisms which vary across the United states that get entire species "wrong" in the context of standardized organization for universal communication. That doesn't mean they don't read books
Maybe their great great grandparents didn't. It means the books you read were not written by people who value every historical use in terminology.
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@ravensjt
A few refinements
Racism refers only to a belief as with any other ism, and the belief is not necessarily as simple as a statement of "superiority" of race absent context. That's sufficiently summed under the term, "idiocy", but perhaps best conveyed with its respective form of racial tribalism. Of course, to sustain the status the racially based tribe people must be convinced of a threat to their community on the basis of race or a superiority of race.
Racist is used in conjunction to describe an actor or action based upon racism.
Living without a particular obstacle is NOT power. Force*distance=work Power=force*distance/time That's why when you encounter an obstacle on the highway, you dip into your power reserve (gas tank ie cash in the bank) to increase the amount of force from a harder working engine in order to maintain the same distance over time. If you happen to live next to a tunnel and the next person happens to live on the other side of the hill thereby presenting an obstacle, that is not power. People expended energy they had stored to apply force to the hill and displaced it over time, and THAT is power. Your living by the tunnel is *partially* a RESULT of power insofar as power is required.
That a population of say, 200,000,000 people does not contain the conditions observed to some degree in a population of 20,000,000 people residing in the same setting seems unlikely unless the smaller population is defined by its condition. From a statistical standpoint it's more likely the the relationship is inverted from your postulation. That is, it is more likely that members in the smaller 20,000,000 population may catagorically have a larger lack of first hand experience regarding the totality of obstacles faced by members arbitrated within the larger population. This is one of many reasons why actionable reference with respect to a sustainable system of racial minorities and majorities is unethical, being of an inherently flawed nature, and with the casting of ignorance, widely considered immoral.
Being spoiled has not to do with the alottment of privilege, rather it is only philosophically sustainable to conceptualize that it arrives from a lack thereof. Being "spoiled" does not ensure the continuity of associated privilege either, potentially quite the opposite.
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