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@Wylted
Invoke gladiator role between me and poly.
If this is true that seems like a waste of your role.
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@Earth
I’m focusing on the fact that you said “like” which implies that you either summarized your PM or made it up.
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@Earth
my Wincon is different. Just something like "you are a vanilla townie". So nothing fancy. I hazard a guess Lunatic doesn't want us to use PM structure to make lynchs and will punish Town if they try.
Post 270 you said this.
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My scum reads at this point is Wylted. He pressured me most of the game for claiming Miller when it is SOP for Miller to claim DP1.
First he states that any millers should be killed on DP1 which I disagree with. Millers could always be killed at night if there is some sort of vigilante role. Or saved for later day phases if there are other more scummy players. Wylted’s pressure on me seems very opportunistic.
I also slight scum read Oro based on his role, his reason to claim this day phase, and his leadership on suggesting everyone to claim wincons where it doesn’t really seem necessary.
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I agree with Earth about analyzing wincon. It’s already clear that not all of them are the same and mafia players can simply fake their wincon.
However, Earth’s handling of the situation when asked his wincon seems scummy especially when stating that his wincon is “something like vanilla townie”
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@Wylted
You are focused on disproving my theory of the wincon.
I'm not even focused on that. I'm more focused on the fact that Oro claimed his role so early which seems so scummy. You're playing just as sloppily as you did in Day 3 of Ancient Roman Battles
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@Wylted
I only watch real fighting like the WWE.
This shouldn't discount the fact the my character was tournament winner.
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Oro and pie are confirmed town. Look elsewhere.
I don't see any possible way how you came up with that conclusion on just the first day.
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@Wylted
He is a modwit. Low on the mid part. He is an individual with an IQ of 115 who thinks of himself as smart because he found some smart people he agrees with and copies their reasoning. It's why earth knew he would choose to protect chris over himself and targeted him. Any intelligent person would have known we were going to know he was targeting chris and would instead target him, but he targeted chris anyway. Idiots always do the obvious move in situations that should be wifom.
So your reasoning for Oro claiming his role early is that he's not smart. That's a dumb excuse.
He claimed innocent child because he lacks imagination.
So you're saying he lacks imagination on the role he could have fake claimed? Sounds even more scummier. I wouldn't be surprised if you and Oro are a scum team working together.
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@Wylted
I already explained. Millers appear to be something they are not. Your justification is that the guy appears to be an asshole based on his actions and is an asshole.
Did you miss the part where he was tournament winner in the American top team?
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I AM CAUGHT UP NOW AND Poly's justification is absolute shit. Millers appear guilty but are innocent. His guy just straight up appears guilty.
Why don't you believe my justification? You seem hard pressed on eliminating miller but could be a ploy for a mislynch. What are the points in my justification that you can't trust?
Also both pie and oro are basically confirmed town in my book at this point. Pie would have went ahead with the wincon oro stated if he was scum.
You really think Oro is town confirmed just cause he stated wincon. For all we know, Mafia could have a very similar wincon such as You are a mafia member, simply changing mafia to town. Honestly, I can't really trust anyone is town based on their wincon, especially since people have stated different wincon.
Plus, I'll say it again. I don't understand the reasoning for Oro to claim Innocent Child so early. If he is who he claims to be, he will be automatically confirmed in DP3, he could have played undercover until he got the official reveal from TUF. There was absolutely no need for him to role claim. So my vote remains on Oro.
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@oromagi
Why not? If I'm not confirmed DP3 you already have your lynch.
There's no reason for you to claim early since you will already be confirmed in DP3. You could play undercover and appear innocent until TUF proves your innocence. But by claiming early it appears really scummy as it can be Mafia using this role to stay alive for further day phases. I believe claiming early with this role is not the best tactic to take as town.
With that being said,
VTL Oromagi
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@Wylted
Go into more detail about your justification please
Don’t know much about the characters and who would be town vs mafia, but my guess is that Kamaru Usman is town because he was the tournament winner of the Ultimate Fighter 21 of the American Top Team. However his actions that season by claiming he wasn’t holding the cage, even though he was, makes him miller
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@Wylted
Always claim PGO as miller and miller as PGO.
What is PGO?
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@Wylted
I think we should lynch claimed millers and that millers should not claim. Low likelihood of being investigated and a convenient scum claim.
Im fine with being lynched if there are no other suspects but I think it’s better to wait till future day phases to see if any other scummy players arise. I already appear guilty by role so best to just keep me in your back pocket until later.
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@Wylted
If there is a cop there’s a possibility that he will investigate me but that will be a waste of time as I will appear guilty anyways. Cop can investigate someone else and hopefully find another guilty.
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@Vader
Because Kamaru Usman was caught holding the cage during a fight by the ref and onlookers, yet constantly was claiming that he wasn’t
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Didn’t even have an opportunity to participate this day phase lol
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With a half dozen other targets, all of whom could have far more valuable and dangerous PRs (excluding GP who already used his), scum went out of their way to redirect Poly.
My sentiments exactly
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@Wylted
I watched lunatic. I did not see oro visit him, but I saw whiteflame visit him.
If you are a watcher, why did you choose to watch Lunatic?
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@Wylted
poly probably got redirected.
that seems really unlikely.
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@Wylted
I watched lunatic. I did not see oro visit him, but I saw whiteflame visit him.
Wow. Explain yourself.
VTL Wylted
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I motion detected Whiteflame last night and there was no movement there.
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Oromagi- slight scum- General lack of pursuit of badger until it seemed he was theonly option; He was online and aware of the scummy vote switch when it happened but didn't bring it up til much later. I am hoping he is town here, his character analysis may prove useful here. I particularly am not interested in researching any claims to see if they make sense with characters or trying to decide a theme split. though at this point it probably doesnt even matter since badger never used the fake claim so the remaining scum member(s) still probably have it.
I want to pressure Oromagi also for this reason. In addition by giving such detailed character analysis could be a way to appear town-sided by generally helping the town clear the air of character information.
VTL Oromagi
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Mine doesn't say because of this but there an effort to connect battle to role- it is kind of stretch but connecting battle descriptions to roles seems like it would be hard to do.
I agree. Honestly not too familiar with the theme to judge how roles are connected to the battle. So kind of just skimmed the whole character description and went straight to the role.
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@whiteflame
Chris could have also been visited by someone. If he’s town confirmed then maybe mafia tried to kill him and he was blocked. We can first see if Chris visited someone. If not we would know that someone visited him.
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So I think we should push for Chris and see if he visited anyone last night.
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Someone either visited him or he visited someone else
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I’m the motion detector and looked at Chris last night
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Since no one died last night it’s clear someone may have been protected or someone’s role was blocked.
I’m still curious about Chris. Lunatic I don’t think that joke between Badger and Chris can show non association. I actually viewed it as the opposite. Chris could have also been fed up with badger at that point knowing his team mate is losing.
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Waiting on me for what? I claimed my battle already. I don’t think there’s any point to full claim right now.
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I feel as though badger initially added chris to his list of suspects just to make Chris appear less scummy in the event that he was lynched. Badger pushed for Chris to give info in the beginning of the first day phase but it wasn’t such strong pressure like his other suspects. In fact, badger kept pushing for me to get lynched in most of his posts. Nearing the end of DP1 I feel as though Badger put his last vote on Chris as a means to make him seem innocent. So I’m curious to hear what Chris has to say about all of this.
VTL Chris
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