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@Theweakeredge
When it comes to emotion or spiritual discussion I am not sure what else there is. I have no problem with people not believing in gods due to lack of physical and/or scientific evidence. But having had my own spiritual experiences and having faith based on those I tend to be able to understand belief in other theists and give that emotional and/ or spiritual evidence weight. Just like I wouldn't argue someone saying they experienced love at first sight.
Edit to add: I don't consider myth or sacred text to be evidence per se. I think it's a record of personal experience that others have found to be their experience. Text also is meant more to be a guide to worship for believer not evidence for non believer or non practioners.
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@Theweakeredge
This post is old and before I was banned. If you have a question you are free to ask.
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@zedvictor4
Why was I tagged in this?
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@FLRW
He is not made of atoms.
Everything is. So yes the gods are too.
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@oromagi
I like the idea of mandatory National service after high school that includes one year of military training (emphasis on physical fitness) followed by a year with an option to
- continue in some military specialization or
- some alternate civil service (jobs like firefighting, National Parks, vaccination programs, federal field research, etc preferably with some application toward individual interests
In exchange, the Federal Govt. will cover the cost of all higher education/job training after service.I would expect to see a significant reduction in crime since the majority of all crime is done by 18-24 yr olds.I would expect to see significant improvement in general physical fitness with associated improvements in health outcomes.I would expect to see considerable improvement in college readiness, elimination of college debt and considerable improvement in job readiness after college.In a single generation, I'd expect to see considerable declines in social inequities between class and ethnic divisions.
I like it
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People complain about capitalism all the time but nations without it pollute and have issues as well. In general the West which is in essence capitalist probably has more restrictions to help those areas as they can. Consumerism is more the issue, which falls to the individual. There are whole businesses now coming up to address issues like what is being discussed. Packaging is changing. Products are environment friendly. Waste disposal companies. All due to capitalism and individuals seeing a market or a need to fill.
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I think forepaly should be encouraged over third base, especially for any teen romance.
Our anatomy and physiology teacher in high school was married to one of the school counselors and every year he did a sex Q&A for his classes with her. It was seriously an ask what you want and we will talk about it session. They went over everything and I mean everything. It was humiliating and super helpful at the same time. I can't imagine doing that for a bunch of teens then or now.
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Consent - is not a big deal when it is just a game and recreation. Consent is only a big deal when we are talking about serious things like a contract or getting married or whatever.Rape according to Germaine Greer, the feminist writer, is just "bad sex". In some ways she is right. It depends upon what you think sex is for and whether it is serious or not serious or even sacred.
That's a lot of bs.
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I think kids should be told abstinence is a legit a choice to not getting pregnant and using contraception. Teens are bombed with sexual images and content constantly. They should feel ok not feeling ready or willing to just have sex cause everyone seems to be. I watch a lot of occult based shows and they show teens having sex and drinking like a soap opera would.
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It's assumed anyone coming in to file a complaint is telling the truth. Whether a theft or a rape or a domestic violence. You then have to prove guilt. In a they said they said a jury has to decide who seems honest when no physical evidence exists. The system isn't 100% for either side. Though in the case of rape I have no idea why anyone would just assume a women would lie about it when it's probably the most horrible thing to have happened to her. Some have been lead to pick man that were not the involved like the Making a Murder case where her attacker wore a mask and they told her he was a know rapist in the area. But in general most who go to the police are not making it up. Just like some kids are lead to say they have been molested doesn't mean a child should be ignored when they say they have been assaulted.
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Rape has nothing to do with attraction or even sexual gratification. It's a about power and humiliation.
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@zedvictor4
I will also mention, as I have on previous occasions, that it is very easy to induce spiritual experiences/moods.
This is why I don't use drugs ( which I don't use in general) when doing meditation or trance work. I feel it clouds the experience.
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@Benjamin
It's my understanding that a good bit of Norway's success ( Scandinavia in general) is the politicians not screwing over the populous. They have invested their money properly, not taken from one fund to another and not padded their pockets like American politicians do.
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@Timid8967
No. You just keep saying you can't discuss religion while in a religion forum. Makes no sense.
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As an animist I believe all living things have a spirit. People can work with them whether plant, animal, land, water or dead person. Healings and insight can be gained by working with spirit, but that's my personal experience.
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@fauxlaw
Thanks we are doing tarot cards readings and selling some metaphysical items.
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@Timid8967
non-theists don't debate theology - it is impossible because theology means - the study of god and non-theists don't believe in god.
So book reviews can't review fiction? And movie critics can't discuss fiction? Theology is usually based on myth and myth is written down. You can discuss the points without believing in them. If what you posted is true you wouldn't even be in this forum or made this post.
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@Theweakeredge
Then you train a mental health force not get rid of all police. Good luck finding people to do it. Most psychologist and psychiatrist don't want to do that kind of work or they would train for both jobs and join the force.
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Why do people assume the universe has ever been nothing? If energy is eternal then it's always been there. If we are of "God" and he/she/it is eternal then so are we. Which the spirit is.
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@Theweakeredge
I have worked with the police for 20 some years and know what they do and in general they are. They do get called to do those things but they are not psychiatrist and those situations don't usually go well for people or the police. You want a mental health squad cities need to set them up.
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I am about to become my own boss. After 25 years with the State I am quitting end of May to open a business. I am vested so I will not loose my pension but I will not get full payment which I would if I rode out seven more years. I just can't do it anymore. The last Judge I worked for fired two of us ladies to hire his mistress. The one I work for now is nice but I hate civil court. Divorces suck. I am just gonna take a chance. Scary at 50 but what the hell, YOLO.
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Police are not psychiatrist. They are law enforcement.
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@Theweakeredge
What ridiculous bs. However they started they are now the first level of law enforcement people call when they need help. There are police solving crimes, keep people from getting abused, doing charity work and keeping roads safe. Your hatred for another group of people you don't understand and probably never interact with is astounding.
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@Matthew_18
Myth and not real are saying the same thing.
Myth is a story that can't be proven there is nothing that says it didn't happen somewhere else.
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@Timid8967
I apologize for offending you. it was not my intention to suggest we should do nothing about suffering.
I am not offended. It's the internet. Tone can be an issue with nothing but words.
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@Vader
Why do people keep saying this when he was high on fentanyl and passing counterfeit money. He was still in a criminal lifestyle. None of his crimes are death penalty crimes and he should not have died for them.
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@Matthew_18
I didn't say it wasn't real, I said it's myth. The Bible is myth like any other religious text. There is no proof any of the stories that happen in myth happen on Earth. There is a reason for that. And don't call me names again.
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@zedvictor4
By FLRW: The national debt level of the United States is a measurement of how much the federal government owes its creditors. Right now it is $28 trillion dollars. The federal government is broke.
This is what I was referring to when I say funded. With real money not on paper.
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In Heathenism the gods themselves are subject to fate. Odin is constantly on the move to change it and can't. We have limited free will. Who we are born to, where we are born, how we are raised. Our own mind via psychology keeps us from being subject to our own fears, hopes and paths and lives. We are subject to a multitude of things that keeps us from doing exactly what we want or should be.
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@Stephen
And the Bible is myth. So it can say what it wants to.
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@Stephen
The Bible is myth not fact. No proof Jesus is a real person. If they are saying his body rose up then I suppose it did there. But that is not a thing that happens on Earth.
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@Stephen
No idea what the details the visions of Jesus after his death were.
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@secularmerlin
Income tax is a good chunk of the money the government works from. You don't view the priorities as difference in pay?
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Do you mean Judaism or all the Abrahamic religions? Cause Judaism is still a fairly closed religion. You get converts but most are born into the faith and it's still strongly tied to the Jewish people.
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@Timid8967
Suffering exists so why do anything about it? Let's apply that to rape, murder, racism, sexism. child abuse, domestic violence or improving humanity in any way shape or form. What a lazy stand on life.
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If the soul is eternal we all resurrect at death, just not with our body.
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Tacitus did not witness the Crucifixion, there are no Roman documents to collaborate this "facts". The passages are to explain why the followers were call Christians. No historian will say for certain Jesus ever existed because Tacitus is still not a strong enough source to say it's 100 percent true.
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@Greyparrot
Oh ok, lol. That's not much.
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@Greyparrot
Most people when asked will donate only 8 dollars to climate change I saw in a survey.
What an odd amount. You think most would at least round up to ten.
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Tacitus observed worshippers not Christ. By that standard the German gods actually walked the Earth too.
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@TheUnderdog
Kids get used in divorces all the time. When they don't it's usually because the parents are mature adults or they both wanted the marriage to end.
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@TheUnderdog
Deadbeat parent. they don't because they like to use the kids against the other parent. We have a woman right now who tried to adopt out her youngest and when bio dad was contacted he was like I have a kid, not I want her. They almost did it anyway until he got a lawyer. Mom is fighting to keep dad from getting the kid just cause. She should loose her rights far as I say but I don't have a say. She will get to keep the kid and dad will have to share and deal with the *itch till the kid is probably a teen and goes to dad anyway since mom doesn't care.
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Ghosts don't have bodies to eat with. They might tip a bowl over but they can't make milk de materialize.
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@Benjamin
Again, how many humans do you need to replicate? That's right: TWO.
Even biotypical people might not be able to procreate due to all kinds of factors. While our sex organs are set up for making babies our minds have way more going on and are far more ingrained in sex then just making more humans.
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@Timid8967
Do you think we should try to end suffering if possible? Suffering from hunger, assault, medical condition that is say treatable if you can afford it. Shouldn't we reduce as much suffering as we can? Granted there will always be suffering you can't control like mourning but I would think we should be doing something to eliminate suffering when possible. Dying from starvation does nothing for character.
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@Bones
GENERAL ANSWER: Without evil, there cannot be good.
I feel this is the biggest piece of garbage we tell ourselves to be lazy. You can so have good with no evil. There are all kinds of spiritual and natural principles and laws. Evil is not a single one of them. Love is and evil is part of the ego that keeps us from loving. It's a self serving scape goat to do things to others you don't like. It's got nothing to do with god, gods, or spirit.
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@Timid8967
What do they call Friday? Happy Day. And Tuesday? Pension Day.
Freya or Frigg's Day and Tyr's Day.
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