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@ethang5
Like I said, you wouldn't.
So you think that human bodies don't have any physical flaws in them whatsoever?
I call trick play. Don't ask me for the purpose of a part of a design. The entire design goes to the purpose. What does a windshield have to do with moving passengers from point A to point B?
The pharynx and accompanying windpipe are as essential to a human as an air intake valve is to a car. Without oxygen, neither the car nor the person would function at all.
The value of good designs not only involve benefits or reduced risks, but things like efficient use of space, multi functioning parts, and scalable structures. Everything gained in a design sacrifices some other thing. Want a fast car? You will lose fuel efficiency. Want a spacious car? You will lose aerodynamics. But hubristic armchair creators never have to deal with reality. Which is probably why their "better" designs never make it past their talk phase.
How would increased spatial efficiency, multifunctionality, and scalability outweigh a greatly increased risk of dying of asphyxiation, for example?
Is what I said true or false? Has anyone made a single cell?
Ultimately, this point is a red herring. Humans not being able to replicate life wouldn't in any way defeat the point that human anatomy has flaws in it.
And tell us, which artificial organ is better designed than the natural one? Hmmm?
Why does it have to be "better designed"? Artificial organs are designed to replicate the functions of the biological ones that have failed. This alone proves that human bodies are flawed.
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@MisterChris
How long do you think it would be until MgtowDemon becomes yet another type1? I'd give it about a week, maybe less.
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@fauxlaw
Do you always operate at 100%? No, you don 't have to do that. What makes you think God does? I saying that God in omniscient in no way implies that he must always act thereby.
Him being omniscient means he knows which designs are good and which are not. At the VERY least, he should be able to see the flaws that mere humans can point out.
Tell me one thing about creation that was perfect. Nothing. However, the problem with the view that everything should have been perfect disregards that creation continues today, and Darwin admitted that. Evolution is the continuation of the extended creation event. Or, did you imagine that God created for 6 days, and rested, then retired?Nope. Even survival of the fittest is a testament to the ongoing progress from imperfection to perfection. It's a process, not a single event.
Why would God create flawed beings and then a subsequent process that goes through many iterations (some of which were defective) when he already knows what the endstate — "perfection" as you put it — looks like?
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@ethang5
Anyone who seriously thinks this is so hubristic he is probably beyond logic.
I don't see what overconfidence or excess pride has to do with stating facts.
Whether a design is "flawed" or not depends on the designer's purpose. A car is a "flawed" boat to one who thinks sailing off his doomed island is purpose.
So what's the purpose of, say, a pharynx that is used for both ingestion and respiration? What benefit does it grant compared to having separate pathways for food and air (which would drastically decrease, if not outright eliminate the risk of choking)?
The people looking at the human bodies and saying it is apparent that there are many flaws have not been able to make a single cell. Not even one.
So... artificial organs aren't a thing? You know... the thing that people get when their biological ones fail?
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@ethang5
Flawed beings is so subjective it has no meaning and can thus be applied to any being no matter what it's form and function consists. Atheists even call God a "flawed being". The argument is illogical gibberish.
By "flawed beings", I think Ragnar means in terms of our physical bodies. One quick look into human bodies make it apparent that there are many flaws in the design.
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@Jarrett_Ludolph
UD is the notion that the creator must be extremely lousy to design such flawed beings. This is meant to directly contradict the notion of creationism, as God is supposed to be omniscient.
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Because changes don't happen accidentally. They always serve a purpose.
Not true. What purpose would the wind blowing a leaf from point A to point B serve?
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@ethang5
@janesix
Darwinian evolution is false because it is impossible.
Explain plz.
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@seldiora
Please don't make any more call-out threads.
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@MgtowDemon
Silly pot, do you not realize the hypocrisy occurs when you call this fine kettle black?
Sorry, did I strike a nerve in your supremacy complex?
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@MgtowDemon
It's funny that a nobody like you would understand, hence proving my point.
I'm a nobody?
ahahahahahahah
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good one. You'd make a very fine third-rate comedian, Wylts.
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@MgtowDemon
Nobody understands the point being made lol.
False.
Fruit - Short for Fruit_Inspector, the person who defeated Oro in this debate.
Had Oro employed vote manipulation, debate vetting, and/or any of the other tactics that you suggested he did, he would not have lost that debate. This is the point that Seldiora is making.
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Nobody knows Fruit; everyone knows Oromagi.I don't know who this "Fruit" is.
I guess this hammers the point home lol.
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@MgtowDemon
Yes, you can't prove someone wrong unless it's through an official debate.
Why not debate?
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> Claims to be completely pWniNG the liBtARdS
> Hasn't done a single debate
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@BearMan
You forgot the point about getting extremely butthurt over others' swear words
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@ethang5
But this site loooovvveees kid boys!
You, sir, are the pinnacle of maturity.
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@Greyparrot
Lockdown making me really fat and bored.
Can relate
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@Greyparrot
Sup dude hows life
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@ILikePie5
Thanks!
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@MgtowDemon
Ah nice to see you again Wylted!
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@warren42
We don’t really have much from Croc, but Cookie’s reads on Croc don’t seem like they deviate too far from potential noob scum bussing.
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The first big point I noticed was Croc’s post 90. In it, he basically said “I have no clue lol” despite saying he knew who to lynch in the beginning of this DP. This looks like Croc putting on a facade of activity and helpfulness (albeit a pretty poor one), while exhibiting much of the same fluff-posting and sheeping as before. This, combined with allegations of lurking, makes him look moderately scummy in my eyes.
LittleCookie is much of the same. Though providing a tiny bit of good info in DP1, his continued fluff-posting and what seemed like jumping on the Supa bandwagon (which I also revisited) makes Cookie appear scummy in my eyes.
In short, the people I scumread haven’t changed, but with more reasons behind them.
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Alright just read through the new stuff (there honestly isn’t much of it given this game slowing down to a crawl compared to last DP).
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@warren42
Press, who did you visit last night?
I’m Miller.
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@Crocodile
Alright. You said you have an idea of who to lynch. I wanna hear it.
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@Crocodile
You said you have an idea of who to lynch. We’re waiting.
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I’m re-reading DP1 right now to form refined reads. The people I have as most scummy right now are Croc (for lurking and sheeping DP1) and LittleCookie (for sheeping DP1, although did provide a tiny bit of reads)
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@Crocodile
aight bros i think we have an idea of who to lynch
Yes?
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@warren42
Right now it looks like either Supa or no lynch
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If there is a tracker (don’t reveal yourself), visit DD tonight.
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Been thinking about this. If DD’s doctor claim is fake, then we can easily catch it in future DPs.
Onto the other person in my scum pile.
VTL SUPADUDZ
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@ILikePie5
@WaterPhoenix
Scum claiming miller is extremely risky as the possibility of getting CC’d is incredibly high, especially for an unpressured SOP claim.
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If it comes down to it, I don’t mind being the policy lynch. However, there are still other people I have scumreads on, particularly Supa (as noted before for his increasingly erratic behaviour among other things).
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Ok just read up on Renarin Kholin and DD’s claim makes some sense. It’ll also be very easy to determine whether he’s town or scum in the following DPs.
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@skittlez09
thoughts? dp ends soon so vote!
What about yours?
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