I literally said nothing about free will at all, nice attempt at a strawman and better luck next time.
Also, there is absolutely no reason to regret if the victims of your abuse are just an extension of you, you are actually enabling psycopaths with your outlook, not me.
This is all fancy talk until you have survivor's guilt while you avoided severe torture, mutilation or death etc. After a traumatic ordeal.
Your agony is not their agony and vice versa.
The pleasure felt by a sadistic and competitive winner of a contest is independent of the pleasure of the loser masochist or agony of the loser non-masochist.
I see from your profile that you are approximately just 16 (the username matches so I am quite sure) if that really is your birthday it must suck that new year's overlooks you (but not as much as Dec 31st).
I am not here to bully a teenager, Muslim or not and by bully I don't mean beat in a debate I mean that I do not resent you for the religion you were raised into, pressured to adhere to and that your family would no doubt reject you and isolate you if you parted ways with (I am presuming but this is based on a lot of experience, documentaries, books and knowledge on Islamic communities).
I do not resent you for being raised Muslim 'rayhan', at all. I wish you the best on your journey in becoming an adult and starting to make your own mind up for yourself and I ironically and unironically all at once pray that you find a way out of the misogynistic, homophobic, pro-circumcision (it doesn't rule it out for women btw and this is practised on some in the name of Islam), extremely warmongering faith.
If you wish to attack Christianity, be my guest, you can attack anything you want (intellectually), I welcome it and would stand up to a racist cunt who abused you, without a second thought (well, depends how much our lives would mutually be at risk but still I'd stick up for you). You have a very wrong idea of me, I don't resent Muslims, I respect that many have tried to adapt Islam to modern times but I do not understand why they cling to a blatantly barbaric faith. I understand if that offends you and if you cannot like me but I don't hate you, I can already tell you are a good thinker.
What is it they are quoting and referring to? Is it the word of Allah or no?
Regardless, I will not be Islamic in spirit and will 'lay down my sword' here. Plus, you don't know what I really think or not about Islam, though I am not going to pretend the verses aren't right there in front of you.
I will explore all the angles fully, including an interesting angle of how Islam constantly teaches to doubt laws themselves if one thinks they stand in the way of Allah.
Intelligence is the type of dude to not only ask the teacher why they forgot the homework is due but to ask the student why he or she expects anything less than a good ass-whooping for it.
In fact 'terror' has been central to Islam in both its spread and its maintenance of authority within its realm from start to now.
Not in the sense of extremists with rocket launchers and bombs but in the sense of true, paralysing terrorism done by sufi leader and sultan to the populace.
That said, do not be confused... Do not be misinformed of the history of Islam and its evolution.
no they don't necessarily know better at all, after all they are poor in the first place and may be there due to poor skills at judging how to make accurate long-term decisions.
I will absolutely not accept the debate as it is currently worded with no definition of the scope of Islam in the description, this can be used against me in bad ways later with the current wording if I am Con.
the problem is that to be con on this topic, we need to define what Islam is as in is it the history and scripture or is it the mordern day average muslim
Woman is the default gender role that society assigned cisgendered adult females and that used to not need to be specified. It is a different gender role to lady, chick/bird, dame, vixen, slut, whore and tomboy (and plenty of other gender roles that adult females could fulfil, depending on your idea of a 'role') and it is you who doesn't understand that female is sex and not gender and that in all species that aren't human (including plant species) this is made crystal clear.
Girl used to exclusively be the role that non-adult females filled but over time that's changed to include adult females (or trans males) in it.
You are supporting heteronormative dictionary dictionaries to cut your nose to spite your face.
I find it fascinating that you'd rather change the biological definition of female than the gender role definition of woman to include male-sex trans women.
I find it fascinating that you'd rather change the biological definition of female than the gender role definition of woman to include male-sex trans women.
I'm willing to die on that hill, sure, for my understanding is far deeper than yours.
Woman is the default gender role that society assigned cisgendered adult females and that used to not need to be specified. It is a different gender role to lady, chick/bird, dame, vixen, slut, whore and tomboy (and plenty of other gender roles that adult females could fulfil, depending on your idea of a 'role', such as 'sweetheart') and it is you who doesn't understand that *female* is biological sex and not gender and that in all species that aren't human (including plant species) this is made crystal clear.
Girl used to exclusively be the role that non-adult females filled but over time that's changed to include adult females (or trans males) in it.
Pro-choice abortion alongside vegetarianism, let alone veganism, is a deeply sickening irony to me. Not relevant necessarily to this debate but a stance I have grown to deeply find irony with.
It is exactly correct that the only acceptable way to strategically vote is to keep your mouth shut, there should be severe penalties when you literally admit that you'd have someone's back if the votes went the other way but wouldn't vote otherwise.
It is 100% against the rules to vote based on stopping someone losing that you don't want to lose that you'd otherwise withhold voting for. That should not be one's reasoning ever.
it used to be that you could not award argument point unless it's deemed FF instead of the over 40% scenario that isn't FF where only conduct can be given.
" a) trans women are biologically women "
What is a woman?
"b) gender is a more useful way to define male or female than biological sex."
Please explain why man and woman or gentleman and lady are insufficient for gender while male and female have always been used exclusively for animal sex (even plant sex organs, for instance pollen is a female plant aspect etc).
hang on why are you not equating insects to humans if they are also part of the 'all'?
I literally said nothing about free will at all, nice attempt at a strawman and better luck next time.
Also, there is absolutely no reason to regret if the victims of your abuse are just an extension of you, you are actually enabling psycopaths with your outlook, not me.
This is all fancy talk until you have survivor's guilt while you avoided severe torture, mutilation or death etc. After a traumatic ordeal.
Your agony is not their agony and vice versa.
The pleasure felt by a sadistic and competitive winner of a contest is independent of the pleasure of the loser masochist or agony of the loser non-masochist.
I see from your profile that you are approximately just 16 (the username matches so I am quite sure) if that really is your birthday it must suck that new year's overlooks you (but not as much as Dec 31st).
I am not here to bully a teenager, Muslim or not and by bully I don't mean beat in a debate I mean that I do not resent you for the religion you were raised into, pressured to adhere to and that your family would no doubt reject you and isolate you if you parted ways with (I am presuming but this is based on a lot of experience, documentaries, books and knowledge on Islamic communities).
I do not resent you for being raised Muslim 'rayhan', at all. I wish you the best on your journey in becoming an adult and starting to make your own mind up for yourself and I ironically and unironically all at once pray that you find a way out of the misogynistic, homophobic, pro-circumcision (it doesn't rule it out for women btw and this is practised on some in the name of Islam), extremely warmongering faith.
If you wish to attack Christianity, be my guest, you can attack anything you want (intellectually), I welcome it and would stand up to a racist cunt who abused you, without a second thought (well, depends how much our lives would mutually be at risk but still I'd stick up for you). You have a very wrong idea of me, I don't resent Muslims, I respect that many have tried to adapt Islam to modern times but I do not understand why they cling to a blatantly barbaric faith. I understand if that offends you and if you cannot like me but I don't hate you, I can already tell you are a good thinker.
What is it they are quoting and referring to? Is it the word of Allah or no?
Regardless, I will not be Islamic in spirit and will 'lay down my sword' here. Plus, you don't know what I really think or not about Islam, though I am not going to pretend the verses aren't right there in front of you.
I will explore all the angles fully, including an interesting angle of how Islam constantly teaches to doubt laws themselves if one thinks they stand in the way of Allah.
I thank you dearly for this compliment but let us both remember who the greatest deceiver of them all is.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Allah,_the_Best_Deceiver_(Qur%27an_3:54)
Worry not, all will come in round 2.
You'd best not, one of them is you.
you believing that will serve the kung fu practitioner very well. :)
you clearly didn't read my explanation in the debate as to why kung fu is nerfed in UFC format. observe the rules.
Please read then
Intelligence is the type of dude to not only ask the teacher why they forgot the homework is due but to ask the student why he or she expects anything less than a good ass-whooping for it.
Do you want me to vote on this debate?
I wonder what intelligence level you need to be to think somebody can't debate against what they believe.
what
In fact 'terror' has been central to Islam in both its spread and its maintenance of authority within its realm from start to now.
Not in the sense of extremists with rocket launchers and bombs but in the sense of true, paralysing terrorism done by sufi leader and sultan to the populace.
That said, do not be confused... Do not be misinformed of the history of Islam and its evolution.
https://www.historicalindex.org/what-is-the-hashashin.htm
Tell me about Khalid ibn al-Walid
You will get schooled in 12,000 characters per Round, believe me.
@ ehyeh please vote if you are able to by the end of the voting period.
To others tagged, please vote and I am @ing you so that you see this.
no they don't necessarily know better at all, after all they are poor in the first place and may be there due to poor skills at judging how to make accurate long-term decisions.
No. Islam means submission to Allah, not Muslim.
I will absolutely not accept the debate as it is currently worded with no definition of the scope of Islam in the description, this can be used against me in bad ways later with the current wording if I am Con.
'Islam' means submission to allah, through force if needed.
so if you mean the literal meaning of Islam, you will lose, I am unsure what you mean though.
the problem is that to be con on this topic, we need to define what Islam is as in is it the history and scripture or is it the mordern day average muslim
I actually agree to this topic heading but not to most of the reasoning given inside it other than the 'something from nothing' angle.
which he (or she idk) hasn't disproved and that is false basis of my argument actually, I said I could be any variety
you will lose that semantic game if we go into what allowed means but okay
Yeah, in China.
So work to change the definition of woman, not female. Biology should not cower to social bullying.
I'm going to continue this conversation on your debate against bones.
https://www.debateart.com/debates/3507/comment-links/43014
Let's continue on your debate.
Woman is the default gender role that society assigned cisgendered adult females and that used to not need to be specified. It is a different gender role to lady, chick/bird, dame, vixen, slut, whore and tomboy (and plenty of other gender roles that adult females could fulfil, depending on your idea of a 'role') and it is you who doesn't understand that female is sex and not gender and that in all species that aren't human (including plant species) this is made crystal clear.
Girl used to exclusively be the role that non-adult females filled but over time that's changed to include adult females (or trans males) in it.
You are supporting heteronormative dictionary dictionaries to cut your nose to spite your face.
I find it fascinating that you'd rather change the biological definition of female than the gender role definition of woman to include male-sex trans women.
I find it fascinating that you'd rather change the biological definition of female than the gender role definition of woman to include male-sex trans women.
you are supporting heteronormative dictionary dictionaries to cut your nose to spite your face.
I'm willing to die on that hill, sure, for my understanding is far deeper than yours.
Woman is the default gender role that society assigned cisgendered adult females and that used to not need to be specified. It is a different gender role to lady, chick/bird, dame, vixen, slut, whore and tomboy (and plenty of other gender roles that adult females could fulfil, depending on your idea of a 'role', such as 'sweetheart') and it is you who doesn't understand that *female* is biological sex and not gender and that in all species that aren't human (including plant species) this is made crystal clear.
Girl used to exclusively be the role that non-adult females filled but over time that's changed to include adult females (or trans males) in it.
Pro-choice abortion alongside vegetarianism, let alone veganism, is a deeply sickening irony to me. Not relevant necessarily to this debate but a stance I have grown to deeply find irony with.
Maul was never big on strategy anyway.
I fact Darth Maul was an abomination tonthe Sith order.
Palatine was a Sith Apprentice who had his own apprentice... he had to murder his Sith Lord to take the throne but already had violated the order.
I would have been a gray Jedi for sure.
it is rather transphobic to suggest a woman has to be a female, learn scientific terms before posing to me.
which god? Suddenly options open...
strategic voting is against the rules.
It is exactly correct that the only acceptable way to strategically vote is to keep your mouth shut, there should be severe penalties when you literally admit that you'd have someone's back if the votes went the other way but wouldn't vote otherwise.
Woman is not the same word or term as female.
I saw no sufficient answer to the things I just asked or said.
stop trying to sound smart, it doesn't really work.
I said fact, not theory. It's not a theory that a human fetus is a live human being, it's a fact.
no, that is not how it should work.
It is 100% against the rules to vote based on stopping someone losing that you don't want to lose that you'd otherwise withhold voting for. That should not be one's reasoning ever.
it used to be that you could not award argument point unless it's deemed FF instead of the over 40% scenario that isn't FF where only conduct can be given.
When did the policy change to be arguments too? Was is a MEEP?
" a) trans women are biologically women "
What is a woman?
"b) gender is a more useful way to define male or female than biological sex."
Please explain why man and woman or gentleman and lady are insufficient for gender while male and female have always been used exclusively for animal sex (even plant sex organs, for instance pollen is a female plant aspect etc).
Novice won this debate in my judgement and would have gotten my vote if both asked me to vote.
It would be neither in my interpretation, instead it would be a cryptic clue left by the real god/devil. :)
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7346-bsh1-memorial-profile-pic-pick-of-the-week-no-40-stand-with-ukraine?page=1
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