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@ILikePie5
Is that your solution? Really you're playing the 'left wing source' to deny the facts and witness testimony as valid? Do you not think by now they'd have been sued for the lies if they are lies? They are literally naming police officers and official people at the event giving their testimony, any one could sue them for several thousand dollars if it defamed them.
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@3RU7AL
MBTI is detectable in the words you use.

Good luck identifying anyone's "biology" over the intarwebz.
Oh you meant over the Internet when you were arguing with all the people so far who said they can spot a man from a woman fairly easily IRL? That is a fascinating way to go about things.

I am also curious which pronouns you use to somebody if you have any kind of IRL job, whether it be a colleague or a client/customer, unless they are particularyl androgynous in both physique, dress and name would you not dare to presume a gender and say sir/ma'am or how do you approach asking each and every person you meet what they identify as? I can imagine a huge amount of cisgendered and even transgendered (who blatantly appear as their chosen gender) would get offended by your approach of asking. :)
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@3RU7AL
How do any of those sources know that she was mistaken for a man? What if she changed her mind half way walking into the bathroom or on her way out? Or 'his' way or 'their' way?

I am asking seriously how we are determining it being mistaken or not. I know this can sound transphobic but this is actually about law/policy and enforcing protections of both cisgender and transgender people if we are to do so since you are giving a cisgender person misgendered, how do we know for sure that the people telling her to get out were mistakenly calling her a him/he?

I ask you sincerely to specify to me how we know a mistake was made, should we look perhaps to social media beforehand, ask relatives which gender pronouns this individual went by beforehand or what?

I'd say in this case a solid basis for it being mistaken is that it is a genuine female adult who happens to appear masculine. Would you agree that is the case? Would you also agree that if nobody who was male-sex entered a female bathroom/washroom that the hostility and caution the cis females had around her wouldn't have taken place nearly as likely as they'd have given the benefit of the doubt since people don't do that?

I am also curious if you support the solution of unisex bathrooms in most places, the issue of 'protecting women from men' is kind of negated due to transgendered people existing so the 'safe space' from adult males is kind of becoming moot, I also think unisex bathrooms/washrooms would be a huge step in evading the clash altogether with respects to that.
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@3RU7AL
MBTI is fundamentally distinct from other "self-identification" labels, such as "male" or "female" (which are beyond our epistemological limits, because that information is specifically hidden underneath your clothes and skin).

MBTI is fundamentally distinct from other "self-identification" labels, such as "christian" or "muslim" or "deist" or "gnostic" (which are also beyond our epistemological limits, because sincerity cannot be quantified).
Sure, it's distinct but it's also in the category of self-identifiable aspects that others can say 'no you're not' but if anything MBTI is even more difficult to justify defying the self-identification of as it is psychology and not overt biology, better luck next time though.
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@3RU7AL
This would be like me telling someone they appear to have beliefs that are similar to Taoist teachings (even if they don't choose to self-identify as a Taoist).
Yeah and what is wrong with that? Are you a fan of silencing people because of the easily offended?
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@ILikePie5
That is the point, you are looking at some superficial stuff your News has fed you and frankly the right wing has never fully understood psychiatry nearly as well as the left-wing beyond the fact that pure Socialists don't tend to understand the need for human ego to get selfish reward for a job well done (at least in some capacity).

I will give you a chance to pull your head out of your right-wing echo chamber and read some news that may open your eyes, read all of the quoted text or don't. I do not care either way.

Two more Washington, D.C., police officers died by suicide in the months after defending the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 riot by Trump supporters, bringing the grim tally of such deaths to four.
One of those cops, 43-year-old Gunther Hashida, was found dead at his home last Thursday, according to a spokeswoman for the Metropolitan (D.C.) Police Department.

Hashida, joined the MPD in May 2003, and most recently was assigned to the emergency response team within the Special Operations Division.
Hours later, the MPD confirmed that another officer from the same department, Kyle deFreytag, died by suicide, and was found July 10.
DeFreytag, 26, had been with the department since November 2016.

A crowdfunding page set up Sunday to pay for a memorial service for Hashida, and to support his family, as of Monday night had raised more than $68,000 from more than 1,500 donors.

The GoFundMe page, which has a $250,000 donation target, said Hashida “leaves behind a loving wife, sister, 3 children, and a wonderful family.”

An online obituary for deFreytag said he “liked hiking, camping, riding his motorcycle, he liked traveling and playing the drums, he enjoyed trying different ethnic foods and always knew the best places to eat.”

“Kyle was kind, he had a quick wit and a great sense of humor & kept us laughing for 26 years,” the obituary said.

The indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful: Officer testimony today

So far, five police officers have died in connection with the Jan. 6 riot.
Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who collapsed in his office after responding to the riot, died Jan. 7 from two strokes. Washington’s chief medical examiner has said that “all that transpired” during the riot played a role in Sicknick’s condition.
Two other officers who responded to the Capitol riot died by suicide within a month of the attack. 
Those officers, Jeffrey Smith of the MPD and Howard Liebengood of the Capitol Police, both had been with their departments for more than a decade.

The riot began after then-President Donald Trump urged attendees at a rally outside the White House to march to the Capitol, where a joint session of Congress was meeting to officially confirm the Electoral College victory of Joe Biden as the next president.

Hundreds of Trump supporters invaded the Capitol grounds and buildings, disturbing the proceedings.

About 140 officers from both the Capitol Police and the D.C. department were injured in the melee.

 At a congressional hearing last week, four officers described being attacked, berated and threatened with death by throngs of people, many of whom were wielding weapons.
“I was at risk of being stripped of and killed with my own firearm, as I heard chants of, ‘Kill him with his own gun,’” MPD Officer Michael Fanone testified.

Another cop, Capitol Police Sgt. Aquilino Gonell, vented frustration at the hearing at some members of Congress who have downplayed the danger from the riot.

“The same people who we helped, the same people who we gave them the borrowed time to get to safety, now they are attacking us, they are attacking our characters,” Gonell said.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California, issued statements of condolence for the deaths of Hashida and deFreytag.

“The loss of fallen officers who defended our democracy that day is devastating, and each life lost is a tragedy that America mourns, deeply,” said Pelosi, who used the words “hero” and “patriot” to describe the cops.

Mobs of Trump supporters attacked police officers, threatening their lives and hurling racial slurs as they stormed the Capitol, law enforcement witnesses told House lawmakers Tuesday in the Jan. 6 select committee’s first hearing on the insurrection.
“I was grabbed, beaten, Tased, all while being called a traitor to my country,” Metropolitan Police Department Officer Michael Fanone testified.

“I was at risk of being stripped of and killed with my own firearm, as I heard chants of, ‘Kill him with his own gun.’”

Washington Metropolitan Police Department officer Michael Fanone listens to testimony during the House select committee hearing on the Jan. 6 attack on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., July 27, 2021.

The four officers’ testimony painted a picture of a vicious, weapon-wielding mob that was willing to assault police in pursuit of its goal of stopping Congress from confirming Joe Biden’s electoral victory over then-President Donald Trump, who had spent weeks falsely claiming the election had been stolen from him.
“They literally were there to ’Stop the Steal,” said Capitol Police PFC Harry Dunn, referencing a phrase Trump employed repeatedly after his loss to Biden, including at a rally right before the invasion began.

Dunn, who is Black, also described being berated with racial slurs by a group of Trump supporters when they found out he had voted for Biden.

Washington Metropolitan Police Department officer Harry Dunn listens during the House select committee hearing on the Jan. 6 attack on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., July 27, 2021.

“One woman in a pink ‘MAGA’ shirt yelled, ‘You hear that, guys, this n----- voted for Joe Biden!’ Then the crowd, perhaps around 20 people, joined in, screaming ‘Boo! F------ n-----!’” he said.

Dunn later testified that he “wasn’t able to process it as a racial attack” at the time. “I was just trying to survive that day and get home,” he said.

Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., who is leading the panel and chairs the House Homeland Security Committee, and Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., stressed at the start of the hearing that the problems that led to the invasion have not been solved.

“This threat hasn’t gone away. It looms over our democracy like a dark cloud,” Thompson said.

Earlier Tuesday, Cheney suggested that the investigation might subpoena Trump and House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy. “It could,” Cheney told ABC News. “The committee will go wherever we need to go to get to the facts.”

Metropolitan Police Department Officer Daniel Hodges testifies during the opening hearing of the U.S. House (Select) Committee investigating the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., July 27, 2021.

Some of the officers also expressed incredulity at the continuing efforts, including from lawmakers who were present on Jan. 6, to downplay the attack.

“We were all fighting for our lives to give you guys a chance to go home to your families and escape,” Capitol Police Sgt. Aquilino Gonell told the lawmakers, “and now the same people who we helped, the same people who we gave them the borrowed time to get to safety, now they are attacking us, they are attacking our characters.”

Gonell also described being crushed by a group of rioters pushing their way into the building.

“I could feel myself losing oxygen and recall thinking to myself, ‘This is how I’m going to die, defending this entrance,’” he said.

U.S. Capitol Police Sgt. Aquilino Gonell looks down and covers his eyes during the House select committee hearing on the Jan. 6 attack on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., July 27, 2021.

The officers spoke after lawmakers on the panel called for more facts and accountability, including from the Trump White House.

Investigators must figure out “what happened every minute of that day in the White House — every phone call, every conversation, every meeting leading up to, during and after the attack,” said Cheney, one of two Republicans on the nine-member panel.

“Honorable men and women have an obligation to step forward. If those responsible are not held accountable, and if Congress does not act responsibly, this will remain a cancer on our constitutional republic, undermining the peaceful transfer of power at the heart of our democratic system,” Cheney said.

U.S. Representative Liz Cheney (R-WY) listens to testimony from Metropolitan Police Department Officer Daniel Hodges recall how he was assaulted during the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, during the opening hearing of the U.S. House (Select) Committee investigating the attack on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., July 27, 2021.

Before the mob broke into the Capitol, Trump held a rally outside the White House and heaped pressure on Republicans, including Vice President Mike Pence, to challenge key states’ Electoral College results. He exhorted the crowd to march to the Capitol, telling them, “If you don’t fight like hell you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

As throngs of rioters broke through lines of law enforcement officers and streamed into the Capitol, Trump initially lashed out at Pence on Twitter for refusing to reject electoral votes. Pence “didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done,” Trump tweeted.

He later posted a video urging the attempted insurrectionists to go home, adding, “We love you. You’re very special.”

The House committee, whose members were all appointed by Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, was created after Senate Republicans voted down an independent, “9/11-style” commission to study the invasion.

U.S. Rep. Adam Kinzinger gets emotional as he speaks during a hearing by the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., July 27, 2021.

Cheney and Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, both vocal critics of Trump in the wake of Jan. 6, are the only Republicans on the panel. House Republicans voted to strip Cheney of her House leadership role after she refused to stop criticizing Trump for spreading the lie that the 2020 election was rigged to favor President Joe Biden.
McCarthy submitted five Republicans to be added to the select committee, but withdrew all their names after Pelosi rejected two of his picks. One of those rejects, Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio, may be a material witness in the probe, Cheney said last week.

In opening minutes of the hearing, Thompson played a video that spliced together footage from in and around the Capitol during the siege. The video showed rioters attacking police, shooting sprays and throwing objects, breaking windows and other property, threatening lawmakers by name and calling for the election results to be reversed.

Some of the officers looked away from the video as it played.

In his closing remarks, Dunn likened the insurrectionists to hired killers.

“If a hitman is hired and he kills somebody, the hitman goes to jail. But not only does the hitman go to jail, but the person who hired them does. It was an attack carried out on Jan. 6 and a hitman sent them. I want you to get to the bottom of that.”
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@Greyparrot
J6 victims returning to work as usual: about 4 hours.
Except those that killed themselves, right? How about the living and traumatised?
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@ILikePie5
I didn't talk about property damage from rioters, I talked about trauma to police officers.
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@ILikePie5
What you are told is that the riots were some funny event and when it originally happend your shitstained news outlet tried to blame antifa for it (don't deny it, Fauxlaw participated in this disinformation campaign and maybe GP did too).
I wouldn’t be surprised if ANTIFA were behind it. I believe it was staged by the FBI. Where’s the 40,000 hours of footage if you have nothing to hide. Why did the J6 committee selectively edit out Ray Epps.
That is alright, you are entitled to your nonsense outlook. I recommend looking at facts rather than running with your feelings as your beloved Shapiro tells us to.
Then, they switched tone once it was utterly irrefutable that they were all diehard Trump supporters who had followed his word.
Yup and they’re rotting in solitary confinement while looters and rioters during the summer of love walk around scot free.
And why is that? Have you checked all the rioters and looters to come up with this?
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@ILikePie5
I mean, if I got paid to defend Democrats, I might kill myself too.
RM thinks he owned me lmaooo. Man needs to pull up to inner city Chicago, and then we’ll see who gets owned.
So you are encouraging to bait me into getting what you presume will be murdered by gangsters, in order to one-up me in a forum thread?
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@ILikePie5
You have actually got to be drunk to think the summer of love riots were not more violent than J6. They were far more violent, far more widespread, cops were beaten, liquids were thrown at them, rocks were thrown at them. Give me a break.

Hundreds of peaceful protests happened last summer. One violent protest happened last week. Those attempting to equate the protests last year with the storming of the Capitol are collapsing hundreds of protests aimed at police brutality into one homogeneous and violent event. In reality, as analysis has repeatedly shown, the vast majority of protests which occurred over the summer involved no violent acts at all.


“[T]he Black Lives Matter uprisings were remarkably nonviolent,” one analysis published by The Post explained. “When there was violence, very often police or counterprotesters were reportedly directing it at the protesters.”
With the 2020 election looming, there was an explicit effort by Trump and his allies to suggest that the Black Lives Matter protests were necessarily violent. Fox News ran footage of the same violent incidents for weeks after they occurred to bolster the idea that the protests all ended the same way. Trump released campaign spots suggesting that such violence was a necessary component of left-wing politics.
It wasn’t, any more than violence is necessarily a component of right-wing politics. It is true, though, that the protest promoted by Trump in the weeks before Jan. 6 did result in violence, with hundreds of Trump supporters attacking police and vandalizing the seat of federal legislative power in the United States. Simply on a percentage basis, rallies centered on Trump’s lies about the election being stolen have far, far, far, far more often devolved into deadly violence than did Black Lives Matter protests last year.


There were deaths during the protests and violence last summer, but, as of late August, almost none were actually a function of the protesters. Most were either unrelated to the protests or a function of individuals reacting to vandals or other criminals. A retired police officer, David Dorn, was killed as he sought to defend a business in St. Louis, a rare exception. His alleged assailant was arrested for murder.
During a speech as the protests emerged, Trump painted a stark picture of what was occurring.
“A federal officer in California, an African American enforcement hero, was shot and killed,” Trump said. “These are not acts of peaceful protests. These are acts of domestic terror.”
That killing in California was later linked to a right-wing shooter.
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@Barney
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@Novice_II
Since nobody joined in and thinks this is all okay, I have 2 options now, I either quit while I at least am in the right and avoid attempting to mimic/imitate apparently-rule-allowed aspects of other users who actually will react or I do it and get painted a further villain.

I will just quit for now because clearly this crowd think it's okay.

In simpler terms my 2 options if I want to avoid being mimicked are:

1) Be something they don't want to mimic whatsoever. The drawback is the flack that comes with being it.
2) Mimic a person who will react and can push for the change in the enforcement.

Neither of these will work here, clearly and really there is nothing to gain other than look pettier about a rule that actually does matter in the eyes of those who haven't realise why it matters yet.

Eventually, over time, if more trolls turn up that mimic they will try to mimic others that get bothered by it and only then will the rule be changed clearly.

If anyone has a well functioning brain and reads this and understands that this is impersonation and harassment and should lead to a rule alteration, feel free to make the referendum MEEP suggestion, I'll nominate it into action unless it needs amendment.
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@3RU7AL
many older (and or taller and or overweight and or muscular) women (who are born as women and also identify as women) can be routinely mistaken for men and face repeated harassment in public restrooms
Give us your source.

Also I am curious of something since you cowered out of replying to my quoted solid retorts to your 'self determination' BS, why is it when I self-identify as INTP you get triggered and need to force me to 'admit' to being ESTJ or whatever it is you think I am?
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@ILikePie5
That is demonstrably false. I’m laughing at the fact that you think J6 caused cops to commit suicide 1.5 years after it happened while cops during the summer of love haven’t, the latter of which were far more violent.
That is the point, during 'summer of love' there was no point at all that these cops genuinely went through severe trauma compared to what they experienced in the riots. Your news is the one lying, not the left-wing news. Your bias is the faulty bias.

This is where you need to start to sit back and think 'shit, did I understand it wrong?'

What you are told is that the riots were some funny event and when it originally happend your shitstained news outlet tried to blame antifa for it (don't deny it, Fauxlaw participated in this disinformation campaign and maybe GP did too).

Then, they switched tone once it was utterly irrefutable that the rioters were all diehard Trump supporters who had followed his word.
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@ILikePie5
Now if a rioter killed a former cop like David Dorn, I would be mad.
They murdered a current cop but got away with manslaughter.
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@ILikePie5
Correlation doesn’t equal causation. If it were, far more than 4 cops should’ve committed suicide after the summer of love.
Exactly, so many more cops were involved and barely even 1 committed suicide to my knowledge.
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@ILikePie5
Is it laughable to suggest that four cops commit suicide to 1.5 year time gap after an event which is the inly event that they have had in common all with each other that seems to have traumatised them based on what relatives are saying?

You know what is actually laughable? A guy like you laughing at cop suicide then saying you are defending them against BLM protests.

You are a poser laughing at suicide and that is a fact.
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@ILikePie5
Is that a thing to lol about?
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@ILikePie5
Why have four cops present that day committed suicide since the event?
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@Reece101
I did not strawman not, I asked three different times for you to clarify if you understood what is and isn't conscious, you failed the questioning every time.
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@Reece101
Your stance was originally an attempt at a genuine theory but the moment you told me that you consider an inanimate object as conscious as a living, breathing, aware being that is where I knew you were off the deep end. 

If you are serious about this discussion, get a proper understanding of consciousness.
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@ComputerNerd
And whiteflame will remember you.
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@ComputerNerd
You are not like Reece at all actually, I noticed you the moment you went for the tournament and even prior to that as you were engaging in debates actively. Keep up the good work.

One thing though, just work on your debate structure and of course that will come with practise. I feel like your debates are often made on whims. I would encourage you to sit back and think things through more, I'd also like to see you voting more, the website could use voting activity and you are an active debater.
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@Reece101
alright buddy, you're as conscious as the chair you are sitting on, got it.
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@Reece101
Sometimes humans are born with tails. Not sure of hamsters.
That part was for Lemming, the getting help part was for you.

If you do not understand that inanimate objects do not have consciousness and that it is unique to animals or at most, super-complex AI of the future, you need psychiatric help and are a danger because you could try to save a brick wall by putting a living creature in front of it, that's the kind of psychotic decision-making that can happen if you go down this severe rabbit hole.

I don't want to comment on what disorder(s) may contribute to this but you are in a seriously bad place if you believe what you are alluding to believing.
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@Reece101
Seek professional help then, nothing else to say.

Also hamsters are the primary rodent known to not have a tail they have barely got a stump.
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@Reece101
No it does not and if you truly have trouble understanding that a hamster experiences what a toy hamster fails to, it is time to seek help.
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@Reece101
Consciousness is in the experience realm, what you are trying to dissect is as indecipherable as Mario trying to crack how he keeps being made to jump.
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@Reece101
As a dualist and simulation theorist, I have got an easy answer for you.
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@Reece101
Here, Reece, let me trigger you a little; I think nothing of you.

You obey the rules, post now and again and barely interact with me at all. I gather you have interest in science and music but in both departments we seem to have rather separate niches.

I wish you the best in your DART adventure, I just cannot say that I think much of you and that is perfectly alright.
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@Novice_II
You asked
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@badger
Are you seekijg pure casual type games or half mindless, half strategy?

If it is the latter, a game that does work on PC via bluestacks but is meant fir phones is Raid: Shadow Legends. It is very solo and chill but there is a competitive, strategic side to it that you can choose to care about or not. It is repetitive, you gain by fighting same opponents over and over at times.
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@badger
Hearthstone is OG to the genre, like magic the gathering, however LoR is beyond them with what you can achieve as a player who puts only time (not money) into the game. It is also really interesting in terms of Lore and side solo play world.
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DART Bard, 5th Edition: DDO Dies. 6/12/2022
DDO was in a debilitating coma, what was pulled was the life support.

It is tragic for the fans but DDO was deteriorating for a whole decade, the last 4 years most brutally blatant.

Let somebody who cared about DDO (not me, I resent the place) do a eulogy. 
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@SkepticalOne
I recall you from DebateIsland actually, your username doesn't do you justice and almost misrepresents you in ways. Your username could easily apply to a right-wing conspiracy theorist but you are, from what I see, a rational thinker who takes very straightforward approaches to topics and matters. I wish we'd actually disagree more often so that I could properly engage with you in a debating manner, alas you are not of a position I can find fault with nearly often enough for us to organically debate all that much in the forums.

I'd enjoy seeing more of you in the debates section, actually! Show us what you've got there.
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@That2User
I don't know too much about you but I can tell you are a thoughtful Mafia player, I enjoy playing against you as much as with you as you consistently put effort into the games and stay active. I would like to see more of you elsewhere on the website, debating politics, religion and the likes. I am interested in your views on things and feel it a real shame you don't push past the forum games any more.

You are always well behaved and empathetic to your fellow user and that is the conduct I admire very much. You may well be made mod some day... :)
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Auto Chess by Dragonest

Legends of Runeterra by Riot Games (same company behind LoL but this is a turn-based strategic deck game).

Online free poker games. If temptation is an issue, Replaypoker.com has only free to it but the free variant on Pokerstars is superior play.

If you want to 1v1 strangers online relatively anonymously try pokernow.com, it lets you stay anonymous in ways PokerStars home games do not
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@ILikePie5
Thank you, Pie, glad you liked it.
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@ILikePie5
Not sure I understand what you're asking, let me just say that you seem to use this website a lot more casually than others. I have rarely seen you have extended dialogue with someone over your views and when Barney challenged you to a debate on his moderation of Wylted, as Incel-Chud, you suddenly didn't want to anymore as far as I could see.

I think you are here for a laugh, to post some things and get reactions. You use the website primarily to get your kicks and move on with your day. The only thing separating you from a pure troll is that I get the feeling that you believe what you type on most issues, you just phrase it provocatively to get a reaction. I enjoy Mafia with you but I'd say that's where your and my relationship and interactions end overall. I don't particularly understand your approach to the forums and debating and I can admit that misunderstanding may be on me.
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@3RU7AL
I find it weird how you're strawmanning me with self-determination etc.

Let me remind what I and TERFs have in common as a counter-case (many of them mention this and support it):

It's one-way respect. Society mocks furries and wouldn't call a person who thrives and enjoys roleplaying as a dog or chimpanzee as being identified that way, nor would they ever allow a person to engage in a lot of plastic surgery and use face paint to transition race and ethnicity. They would never allow a 78 year old who wants to feel like a young woman or man to identify as that age in any official capacity... In constrast, we are the devil to hold people to the same standard with their gender (which was always meant to be 'sex' it was male vs female, you didn't list 'man' or 'woman' and still don't list that next to this slot called 'gender' on official forms).


Gender is simply related to people's identity in a fundamentally different way from any of those other facets.
No, that is logically fallacious in both ends of the double standard. 

We cannot simply compare across them and apply the same rules.
We can.

For example, ethnicity is inherently tied to both heritage (family lineage) and biology
Actually, that is a biological-normative social construct. Research the actual definition of ethnicity and contrast it to race, we as a society do to ethnicity what conservatives do to gender.

, as well as one's entire cultural surrounding,
Eminem grew up with predominantly african american cultural surroundings. Is he that ethnicity under your understanding?

while species and age have important ethical connections to one's level of agency.
Not the one you like other people to call you, just the one you really are, like a male person roleplaying as a woman 24/7 and vice versa telling us to respect that roleplay as if it were real.

Gender, on the other hand is linked to one's self-expression,
Furries blatantly want to self express their fantasy to be a species they are not. Same with the age thing.

to their sexual life,
There are kinks linked to furry and/or age regressive play. There are all sorts of parallels here actually.

and the interplay between the genders is a dynamic which is internal to the particular culture - it is a category which you can't simply compare to any others which apply cross-culturally to an extent. The difference is in being different - they aren't the same thing.
Are males the same as females? I am curious where you draw this difference focus from if you are saying we should ignore differences when people get offended.

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But to be trans, you do not even need to undergo medical Procedure anymore.

In Denmark, you can say you are the other gender (even though there are meant to be more than 2) and legally change it.
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Just so you are aware, I fully agree with you on Islam, I am just weary to pick a fight with the most hostile, violent and easily offended ideology out there.

If you got doxxed I feel they'd be angrier, if I got doxxed, I feel they'd just go 'what a jackass' and let me be.

That's not a threat, I am stating a real, serious reason that I avoid discussing my 'true' views on Islam here too often and too explicitly. I don't appreciate the religion, I just don't want to be seen mocking it or directly threatening its spread and practise in any way. I agree with you that they rule by fear and cancel culture has become a weapon they abuse in Western countries but we cannot oppose it, their chokehold is too strong and the better thing to do is to convince them to change it into a more liberal Islam (which isn't possible if you know what Islam means but thankfully the liberal Muslims don't realise this).
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That was RM. This is whiteflame being channeled through RM's body, you must be confused.

I will sit you down, have a cup of tea with you and after we are done, you can try your best to understand that I am not RM or you can cosplay as a cheerleader. I am a reasonable man, Sir Anonymous, I always offer a choice.

Why tea? Coffee is overrated, we need to chillax together, maybe play some nice indie rock or Japanese pop.
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That is interesting, I did not know that I had done this before. 

When you are ready to enter the weeaboo life, I can be your senpai.
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You are welcome, I had no idea I was so entertaining to you. I will get you some pom-poms and cheerleader gear from my cosplay closet if you are down for it.
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As a person of a regularly mocked and berated gender identity who struggled/struggled with mainstream schooling, I'd have thought that you of all people would understand that berating somebody trying their best at creative thinking is not an okay thing to do and is the entire problem with society.
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How were the trans men born? My point isn't that I defend TERFs entirely, I simply understand their platform in ways Wylted is clearly unable to and strawmanning to suit his agenda.

They don't particularly oppose nor support transitioning gender, they encourage feminine males and masculine females to not deny their biology.
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In fact, the secondary gripe they have is females thinking that becoming a man has them more empowered and free. They see trans men as partly caving into patriarchy.
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@SirAnonymous

I could take a long shower with your wife and fail to cum clean,
I'm sorry she aint hot and I need water pumped with steam,
I'm that muggle Harry Potter, closer to sorc'rer than I seem,
I'm the father, motherfucker,  that your children wish you'd been,
You want a war, punk? Pour some more shampoo on your wife's hair while you remain perplexed as to what a hot power shower actually means.

I'm the blue flame, powered by butane, explosive if you ignite me,
You're a poop-stain, fool, your scooped brain would be sold high priced, most likely,
'Good as new, never been used' is a tagline the dark web rarely sees next to a mind, see?
You're a yellow flame and bright flames I see far off, they shine brightly,
You're in it for the arson, prick, I'm non-flammable arsenic, come fight me.
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As someone who actually follows and understands TERFs, Wylted is wrong andnthat ia how the pro-Trans people strawman the TERF platform.

TERFs have zero issue with sissy males and drag queens even going by she and her in daily life. What TERFs are sick of is these trans women counting as cis women for affirmative action statistics, being named female icon of the year by Vogue, being named female employee of the month, when they are male. They want the taboo of biological sex completely made non-taboo.
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