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@Mharman
If this flips Town, I hope you feel shit.
Spoiler: it flips Town
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@whiteflame
Can you explain this reply by Wylted to what I asked, if he is wrestling (since if it isn't a soft that he's in scum pool 1's martial arts then what the fuck does it even mean?)
Which martial art are youIf your theme split is correct than out of the 2 scenarios you mentioned, the second potential scum team you mentioned is correct.
Here was pool 1:
Wrestling, Boxing, Judo, Taekwondo, BJJ and/or Karate
and here was pool 2:
Boxing, Karate, Capoiera, Wrestling
Unless he is TKD, BJJ or Judo, what he said made zero functional sense as a softclaim reply to what I asked that he quoted in his reply.
Also explain this:
I am the only martial art mentioned in the Bereishit though
Is is supposed to mean that we know the Torah verses off by heart to the extent we'd recall a metaphorical wrestling with God that is somehow to be taken as a real martial art? It did imply Judaism and based on other things he said, it strongly seemed he was hinting at Krav Maga. It's a completely sensible conclusion.
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@whiteflame
RM made that leap by himself, but he's blaming it on Incel.
Actually he explicitly claimed it after Computer Nerd asked if he was it and when I asked him to describe his role and theme PM he continued to double down on the lie.
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@ILikePie5
You don't seem to understand, I do not respond to bullying like you think I will. I would have thought you'd realise that by now.
None of your belligierence is swaying me in the slightest.
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@ILikePie5
He did mix in genuine activity. His posts about CN and other individuals specifically. Again you’re wrong.
Nope, if he were scum this all adds to the derailing and distraction from real conflict.
Nobody in their right minds scumreads the literal first guy to hardclaim in a massclaim scenario where many are cool with nobody outing. CN helped me get the ball rolling in a way that scum never had to nor would want to.
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@ILikePie5
You’re wrong based on my character. And I’ve been calling out you on your flawed thematic analysis for 10 pages now.
If your character isn't Muay Thai, I am not necessarily wrong.
If you are BJJ, that is more mind-oriented than wrestling even though they have parallels. If you are Muay Thai then claim immediately, the team is you and incel or aikido and karate.
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He did what he did to derail my thematic analysis while pretending to give it a try. His activity was all trolling actually and normally he mixes in genuine activity if he is Town.
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@ILikePie5
Yes you can tell with him.
Despite all his trolling and flaws, Wylted is very intelligent, he understands that the trolling should never fully risk the Town.
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@ILikePie5
I cannot take you serious until you give me the reason you are refusing to out your martial art.
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@ILikePie5
He has not scumtold even slightly, he just tried harder. That is a nulltell.
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The fact Aikido is in the game and is so far from physically oriented makes me more certain.
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@ILikePie5
No they don't as so far we have four martial arts with a heavy focus on mental discipline aspects and one more physical and freeform (wrestling).
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@Mharman
Please vote incel-chud immediately if you do buy into my theory.
If you don't, notice the following:
- He softs in such a way that both Krav Maga and wrestling work.
- When I asked his role before that soft, he said a set of boxing, karate, capoeira and wrestling, make sense for my second theme (which was a soft on being in my first scumpool but not the one I mentioned) which then was followed by softing Krav Maga and wrestling, neither of which add up to that original reply.
- When mistaken for Krav Maga, he rolls with it despite me saying I could be it. He then dpubles down when i ask about his PM structure from Lunatic by still refusing to admit he is not Krav Maga, clwarly elated he got away with the risk.
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@ComputerNerd
When you are next online, vote Incel-Chud ASAP.
I am uncc'd kung fu investigative PR and it is a direct order to you. Do not hesitate or I switch to vote you.
Reread after voting, not before, so that you have no excuse to not have had time to vote.
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@Mharman
The fact it's rare makes it a ridiculous fakeclaim. His partner would never agree to aikido fakeclaim and he claimed so early that it is not forced anyway.
Whiteflame chud is the team I see rn.
Pie mocking me as I push harder on him is a towntell he has, only for him. Most people react differently but he has a towntell when he gets meaner while pressured. He easily is still scum but I want whiteflame and chud first now.
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They are progressive definitely.
This is why I tend to call myself a Progressive, rather than Liberal and why I was very pleased this website has Progressivism as an alternative option to Liberalism.
The belief in freedom of progressives is incidental, not paramount/foundational. The primary objective is for society to end up as long-term happy and healthy as possible, freedom for gays to be gay happens to go with thar.
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@That2User
Vote Incel-Chud immediately please, if you are genuinely Karate and are town, you need to trust me on this.
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Actually I am sure that wrestling has to be scum if computernerd is town so I am doing this now despite really scumreading Pie.
this is based not only on theme analysis but on the fact that I never ever believe that Incel-chud would allow his soft to result in a baiting of Krav Maga hard CCing him and the faceoff fucking town over. He's too smart to ever pull that shit as Town, I firmly believe that and the roles revealed so far lead me to bet on mental being town as Sambo is overall towards the mental end of the spectrum.
VTL Incel-Chud
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@whiteflame
nice disinformation if you're scum here.
If you're town that was complete fluff and derailing of my cracking of the theme.
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Everybody in Town please read the above it's very important to follow, post-death of me.
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In case I am strongman killed tonight (I predict there's a strongman and if there is, that it's Muay Thai, Wrestling could be many things if Incel is scum and I predict that it's either some form of bulletproof as wrestlers are really slippery with strikes or it's roleblock because even though wrestling is an offensive martial art, the idea is to completely overpower the opponent rendering them unable to use their own martial art well).
Alternatively, if I got it backwards and mental are the scum, Aikido is lawyer and karate is roleblocker.
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@ComputerNerd
@That2User
Please join me voting Pie or vote whiteflame, whichever you suspect more.
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@Mharman
Do you want to vote whiteflame or vote Pie with me? I am 100% for forcing claims and down for those 2 out of the unclaimed.
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@Mharman
The split is mental vs physical martial arts, it's not balance oriented at all, I partly lied and also partly was curious if balance was the key.Once it became obvious to me that it wasn't as a couple people described their PMs didn't say a thing about mental or physical and that balance wasn't mentioned either, I realised I'd been given a crucial unique clue indeed and that it was as simple as that my role PM contained the easter egg for Town.
Do you understand the split I am saying now, wrestling involving balance isn't important (though it is the least balance-oriented martial art of them all as it specialises in not needing much balance, BJJ evolved from wrestling concepts by making it so that it wants you to be balanced but once you're not, you know how to abuse that situation)
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@Mharman
I am balanced, Kung Fu is balanced do you understand why he dubbed my role 'Justice' because of the balance?
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@Mharman
The split is mental vs physical martial arts, it's not balance oriented at all, I partly lied and also partly was curious if balance was the key.
Once it became obvious to me that it wasn't as a couple people described their PMs didn't say a thing about mental or physical and that balance wasn't mentioned either, I realised I'd been given a crucial unique clue indeed and that it was as simple as that my role PM contained the easter egg for Town.
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@ILikePie5
Sambo can be thirdparty but it can't be mafia btw.
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@ILikePie5
the all would so I didn't ask as I know that from knowing mafia.
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@Mharman
The justification given was balance. That was made clear.
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I am down to lynch whiteflame or Pie today.
I like Mharman's and Earth's interactions.
I refuse to thematically suspect the mind-oriented Aikido and Karate as of yet.
Wrestling is very physically demanding but to be a good wrestler you do need quite a bit of knowledge, however would Wylted risk being CC'd for Krav Maga by not denying he was?
Idk.
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He did use the word balance twice in the PM, first when explaining that therefore I was Justice due to that and secondly in specifying what balanced means in my role's actions.
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Wait no, Lunatic used the word balance only when describing my role, I didn't slip and I'm not faking anything I remembered it wrong.
He said 'mastering' the first time and explained I master a balance (didn't use the word) of mental and physical strength.
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So, if Karate is scum the theme-split favours mind-oriented martial arts
Sorry, I meant physical.
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I am Kung Fu, my role is called Justice, I am not sure why it's named that as the role definitely has other more applicable names on other mafia platforms.
The role take 2 players in the night action and determines if they are the same alignment, this was described wrongly by Lunatic in my description to be akin to 'if they are balanced' (which would mean the opposite but he put in explicit parantheses that it means if they are the same alignment.
I am balanced between mental and physical strength, in the words of Lunatic.
This was the first time he used 'balanced', the second being in how my role works, implying to me that there certainly was a link made for me to catch onto, perhaps accidentally or perhaps intentionally but I doubt he'd type it all like that plus something else he said if it wasn't strongly meant to imply that the game is split between mentally oriented martial arts and physically brutal ones.
Aikido is an extremely mentally-oriented martial art, to the point where there's nearly no true offensive moves in it at all. On balance, Karate is more mental especially if Lunatic sees it as defensive, it comes down to interpretation. A core value that ComputerNerd (who isn't Karate but anyway) didn't catch onto in his depiction of it is that it keeps holding mental strength over physical strength, so severely so that the most extremely physical variants of Karate have body hardening as part of them but this is much more about brutally torturing the body as the mind controls it, very aking to Kung Fu in fact.
So, if Karate is scum the theme-split favours mind-oriented martial arts and Aikido and Karate are the team which I find extremely unlikely would out so readily especially as ComputerNerd seemed to analyse the theme all on his own and assumed it was about the moral integrity of the martial art, since his own was very defensive (this makes extreme sense if you were Aikido, town and new to the games here where theme splits have been a bit murky but not necessarily ruling out good vs evil in the past since he started here).
This then leads me to presume Wrestling as a scummy martial art. Incel/Wylted even went as far as to say 'if your second theory is the split then the second scumpool is correct' when I asked him about his martial art, originally. That scum pool was Boxing, Karate, Capoiera and Wrestling... Which was also actually wrong because balance is extremely important in Karate, but I was seeing who would say what when challenging that. Pie did notice that balance is important in all martial arts, though he didn't press further nor has he in any shape or form done anything other than inhibit the theme analysis.
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@ILikePie5
Go ahead, that will end up putting a solid 3 on you as That2 has a similar role/theme description to computernerd and I'm voting you.
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Those who claim right now are likely to get leniency on my bandwagon today.
Those who hesitate and are online before, will be held in contempt.
We absolutely lynch today.
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I will now say this, it is extremely likely that Incel-chud is on the opposite side to ComputerNerd.
Karate is almost 100% Town because of Aikido being in the game and Wrestling being in the game. I will explain more later but one last thing, If Muay Thai is in the game, Wrestling and Muay Thai are the scum team.
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@ILikePie5
it's either extremely scum or extremely town, I can tell you that much
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@zedvictor4
I can instantly see those are tatoos and not his natural skin colour.
Same with this guy:
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@zedvictor4
You're far too sensitive.How can honesty be offensive?
Show me somebody with fullbody tats that is another race but who looks black.
How is that honest? LOL!
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@whiteflame
Karate completely fits the game's theme, I have no idea why you implied that That2 doesn't fit when ComputerNerd's martial art is even more defensive than Karate.
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@Mharman
The stupidity of the decision doesn't depend on what others do, it depends on what is optimal to the situation and game.
We are in a game where scum have no been given fake claims (one of the first things said in the OP of this thread) and to not press on that when the investigative PR has had a severe clue in their role/martial-art descrpition from the host is simply suboptimal no matter what way you look at it, unless you are scum.
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@Earth
You haven't claimed, I am uncc'd investigative role, you have no power to even suspect me.
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@Incel-chud
It wouldn't necessarily be computer nerd who would cc you, it could be me. You reacting to it but not denying you'd claimed krav maga is scummy af and if I'd been krav maga I'd have very much pushed on you.
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I will tell the split and fullclaim today later (Friday) in EST it will be some point in afternoon.
I moved up the time due to people all agreeing they want me to out. All those who did not claim their martial art by then will be held in contempt.
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Very shady af for incel to risk making a krav maga CC happen, very strange indeed.
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@Incel-chud
Ok that is much less towny, sorry.
Though in the real theme split wrestling is less definitely scummy than I implied. It depends on a maj vs min split across a dynamic that is NOT striking vs grappling.
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