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@Earth
I can buy there being a tracker and alignment checker in same game, but not a cop and my role.
As for theme, if he really is the martial art he claimed, he is scum and if he lied he's scum.
Boxing can't be town, read the description and notice the pattern:
Disarming and/or incapacitating.
Boxing specialises in sheer offense and dodging.
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@Earth
How did he justify the link between your role and martial art btw?
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@Earth
tell more about the PM
Also there would never be what you call parity cop (in this game called justice), a cop AND a tracker in same game, agree?
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@Earth
Ok I will ask it officially in PM (he told me off for asking publicly before)
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If you are not all over the place in a themed setup with closed roles on DP1, you are probably scum or lucky as fuck.
You should be open to all possibilities and behaviour-reasoning and hone in from chaos and reactions piecing together like a complex puzzle. That's how Town should think and read. Scum goes from structured to chaotic.
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@Mharman
What do you mean? I told you my role's report is Incel-Chud/Wylted and Earth are balanced AKA same side.
If you feel my behaviour doesn't match the role, idc tbh. I don't get why I wouldn't be anything I've been in my role.
I am not all over the place anymore at all.
I have been crystal clear with my vote and stance.
If you are not all over the place in a themed setup with closed roles on DP1, you are probably scum or lucky as fuck.
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@Mharman
How is ot risky... therw are 6 of us.
I claimed to be the investigative PR, you blatantly implied we dont clash role-wise...
Actually, please full claim rn.
Anyway, there was literally zero risk here. Supadudz even directly addressed me and didnt mention any role clash at all.
Even better, if there IS a cop then the CC makes whiteflame look townier as he claimed first.
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@ILikePie5
Which do you want to debate/discuss first?
Lay out the logic of it.
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@ILikePie5
I can explain the logic if you want.
Is banning abortion the only thing you find logical in the conservative stance?
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@ILikePie5
The fundamental idea that a rich person owning many millions and snowballing their advantage at ridiculous rates at the sake of many starving people isn't 'resisting empathy' of the starving and desperate, it's empathising too much with somebody who'd be just as happy/unhappy without quite as extremely much of a chokehold on their respective level of wealth, industry etc.
I'm not sure what you mean though, literally the entire platform of right-wing conservatives is about irrational, emotional appeals. I don't want to go into pro-life with you as I have noticed before it's a very sensitive topic and I do not deny the fetus is genuinely human.
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@zedvictor4
The images I provided were intentionally extreme and the second image I provided looks more like marker than tats (the first guy is genuinely fullbody tatted though).
I don't think that's really what the average person who gets a tattoo gets done nor do I think 'mental health' is as simple as 'fully normal brain' and 'omg mentally unwell'. There's a massive spectrum across many disorders.
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As I said, I would completley buy boxing being framer (even 1x framer like a 1x knockout) and incel being framed. This would be a very optimal move from whiteflame's perspective as scum given how Day phase one went and what my role is.
This then would mean I have actually false-cleared Earth not via defensive lawyering but by a chain reaction result of the framing on Incel.
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@Mharman
You do understand that VTNL only will result in either me dying or Scum NKing themselves right?
I know it may be pro-scum to point this out but the last action was a nightkill action, meaning the onus is on us as Town to act. The reason I am absolutely okay with outing this is that I believe that at best I die (which is shit from my perspective, you guys seem confused about the game and we really need to hone in on scum) and at worst Scum no-kills and I become falsely framed because you wonder why are they doing that unless they're townread (which is faulty thinking).
We lynch here no matter what, you need to absolutely force the scum's hand, we need to know which type of scum utility Whiteflame's role had (and even the way the PM linked his martial art to his role) to quickly get an idea about Karate and Sambo.
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@Vader
You really need to become active, this day phase is crucial to the game.
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@ILikePie5
The one thing I learned from debating liberals over a span of half a decade is that emotional arguments mean the world to them and they’re never going to change their emotions
Please replace 'liberals' with 'conservatives' and I totally get you.
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@whiteflame
Given that we’re at 5-2 now (assuming no third party), I think we need to put all our cards on the table.
This is evidence that you constructed your claiming post to this thread rapidly trying to feign genuine activity. I made a similar error as I acted fast too but it seems odd that someone as 'think before I talk' as you forgot this is 4-2, not 5-2.
As Town you'd surely have noticed but because you're scum and I reckon Scum only has one nightkill and that Incel died via Pie's vig power, you didn't think 2 had died and felt you didn't need to read the OP before typing.
I did made a mistake voting Pie because I just skimread the OP, saw the dead guy was Incel, realised that makes Earth Town and was like 'damn it had to be Pie' which is admittedly wrong thinking but I also was curious how others would react. The point I'm making isn't that skimreading is a flaw in itself, it's that it's very odd for you to do as Town.
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@whiteflame
You’ve been wrong all game dude, but now you’re certain that you’re right because you’ve divined yet another arbitrary and puzzling theme split. And you wonder why you can’t form a wagon.
Let's actually talk about what 'all game' is and what you have done all game.
There is not one post from you in DP1 that isn't passive-aggressive gaslighting this game. The entire day phase, you were dedicated to sowing seeds of doubt and pitting others against each other.
Today, you proceed to not even suspect me (major scumslip) despite you being an investigative PR in a 9-person game with three dead Town PRs already, meaning the pool of PRs is much lower now as 2 vanillas would be sensible). You then correct me on townreading Supa due to a fast night phase, instantly pointing out that mafia are communicating via Discord and that therefore site activity is irrelevant.
Not only does the knee-jerk 'but they communicate on Discord' seem like something a scum would immediately say defensively but the fact you didn't clock that if scum were active to do the night actions on Discord, they'd come onto the site to read (and register as online) and that it just isn't likely that the vice president of the website would sign out sneakily to not log on and see his activity, seems peculiar af to me.
I was willing to drop the OGI analysis as I am abusing a leniency on this website regarding it but if you're going to really dig in and make me feel stupid or insane, I will bite back hard too and play dirty to win.
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@zedvictor4
They aren't a 'lot' separate from you. You don't know who on this site has a tattoo or who you are mocking in a totally unwarranted manner.
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@whiteflame
I was not wrong all game. It is easy to sit on the fence and not vote.
Let's analyse how right I have been:
- Townreading computernerd's claim (even when and how he claimed) and interactions.
- Scumreading you.
- Instantly backing off Pie once he tried to get under my skin as it is a towntell of his, meta-based.
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Btw guys boxing is very aggressive, I think incel was framed and Earth is the partner.
Either way, we vote whiteflame and use his role to estimate.
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Actually idk if this is cheating but I saw people do this before here qnd ger away with it.
Supa probably cannot be scum, he was not active to do the killing so rapidly.
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@whiteflame
RM wasn't able to rally a wagon against Incel in the last DP with what he thought was a lot of support for his position, so if we are scum and this was me "saving" Mharman, then this seems pretty unnecessary.
Actually this makes a lot of sense if you are scum with Mharman.
You easily hit Pie, Pie vig-killed Incel and what you hoped was that Incel would be around along with Earth. Unfortunately your roleblocker was roleblocked by Incel, that is the only explanation of why my role worked.
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The idea that Sambo is the roleblocker really fits well here.
Boxing idk what specifically the role is but no fucking way does boxing fit the theme of ANY kind given the other martial arts.
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Karate is an aggressive martial art but because That2user said Lunatic framed it as self-defense and the fact I reckon there'd possibly be a vanilla sitting around makes me townread That2 as well as That2 voting Incel over ComputerNerd but that is a nulltell admittedly.
I like the idea of voting whiteflame off here, me dying this night phase and the game proceeding with huge discussions of roles vs martial arts. Take note that That2 outed before anyone else in the game left.
The only people to correctly participate in my theme analysis were computernerd and that2user, incel allowed krav maga cc to ruin town hardcore and I really hate his playstyle this game.
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Also, I am 100% forcing this vote. I will not remove my vote on whiteflame no matter what is said and done.
I believe I have played to my win condition and that Lunatic misled me with how he worded my role/theme PM. I believe that my strong townread on ComputerNerd for trying harder (the same reason he was scumread) and claiming Aikido of all things, is sound.
I believe in this lynch and am busy irl rn. I leave that vote there and will only talk to people who are not whiteflame during this DP.
I believe the team is Sambo and Boxing and that both of them take initiative in fights and strongly revolve around aggressive movement that provokes the opponent.
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@Mharman
why do you push for vtnl when 2 died in a night? Use your head.
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computernerd's role would make cop a severely dysfunctional role to the point of bastard modding.
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The theme split is that martial arts that revolve around defensive response are Town.
Karate could be either, Sambo could be either.
Boxing cannot be Town and also, Whiteflame never cc'd me for investigative PR and I absolutely refuse to believe that there'd both be a cop and my role in this game.
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I think Wylted roleblocked a roleblocker.
I got that earth and Wylted are the same side but I fully believe a lawyer is in the game given the theme etc.
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@zedvictor4
It isnt self harm, it is not done for the pain itself and there isnt an issue with masochism itself.
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@FLRW
Nice grades, one of the only sets that make sense to me.
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@Earth
This flips Town, you are a dead man next DP for this hammer.
Wylted too for joining it opportunistically.
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@whiteflame
It wasn't my interpretation, it was computernerd's. I followed up asking about his role PM and clearing him. He responded by playing along intentionally, which means if I was Krav Maga (which I easily could be given what I'd said so far) he'd be forcing a PR leading a lynch on him.
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Nixon is another F-, just felt like I ought to mention that.
Not sure why we are applying - and + to this nonsense anyway.
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Biden: B-
Trump: F
Obama: A-
Bush Jr: F
Clinton: C
Bush Sr: D-
Reagan: F-
Carter: B
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@Mharman
Shut the fuck up. You stand by your decision. You had a better option.
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When CN flips town and probably is not even a vanilla, I extremely encourage you all to adhere to my theme and instantly lynch Wylted tomorrow, cheers.
Remember, Muay Thai is lurking amongst the unclaimed or if not, then the other option most likely is taekwondo.
these are 2 extremely physical martial arts.
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